Hmm, Wondering if I can win. D16Z6 VS. B16A1
 

Ok, to start off this is not some newb thread about if my Honda will beat a ferrari or some ---- like that, Today I was at the movies and as I was leaving the lot I noticed a CRX with a front mount(loosed like SS auto ----), I asked my buddy if he knows the guy, My buddy said he is a jackass and that there is a turboed B16 under the hood, however from the looks of the car the guy got someone to do it for him, the thing is pretty riced out, all stock internals too, So what I want to know is what is the max boost you guys have seen on a stock B16because I wanna know what the max is this guy can run, and I know its a light weight CRX that i'm comparing to my 92 CX sedan.

My setup is as follows, D16Z6, LS rods, Vitara pistons, Uberdata, Garrett T3 pushing 15 psi. etc etc. this should get me in the 300 horsepower range.

I know this sounds stupid and silly but I will be seeing this guy around town, and I'd like to know I have at least some of a chance.

Re: Hmm, Wondering if I can win. D16Z6 VS. B16A1
 

first of all wtf is a cx sedan

second of all who gives a ----

Re: Hmm, Wondering if I can win. D16Z6 VS. B16A1
 

Suck my dick, I care, I know nothing about the B16 and I know Jeff and other guys have had them turboed. i'll be seeing this guy around, I wanna be ready.

CX is a trim on the civic, like the Si or Ex

Re: Hmm, Wondering if I can win. D16Z6 VS. B16A1
 

tell him ull race for money, then when hes not looking stick a screw drive in the bumper and disconnect his charge pipe right before ya race

Re: Hmm, Wondering if I can win. D16Z6 VS. B16A1
 

there is no cx sedan ::)

Re: Hmm, Wondering if I can win. D16Z6 VS. B16A1
 

Well its not an LX, its not a DX, it had AC but no cruise of power anything, so I dunno, stupic canadian civics, it does not matter anyway, cuz I have Si badges on it right now. and tomorrow i'll be sporting the HMT sticker.

Re: Hmm, Wondering if I can win. D16Z6 VS. B16A1
 

lx sedan
dx coupe
ex coupe
cx hatch
si eg hatch

Re: Hmm, Wondering if I can win. D16Z6 VS. B16A1
 

its an lx

Re: Hmm, Wondering if I can win. D16Z6 VS. B16A1
 

Si badges? O0 :'(

Re: Hmm, Wondering if I can win. D16Z6 VS. B16A1
 

It has a turbo D16Z6 going in for god sakes, its liek the 4door M3 of civics, and No LX was not the only sedan, there was other trims, LX had the most stuff.

Re: Hmm, Wondering if I can win. D16Z6 VS. B16A1
 

If his CRX is a bloated Si, I think youve got a pretty good chance.
B16 with stock internals is good till around 12psi safely, assuming hes on a T3 or your basic t3/04e.

I remember when my friends CRX ZC w/ 18g on 14psi was able to pull away from by T3 B16 CRX @10psi.
Tires should play a big role too. I remember he was on ---- tires and I was on Azenis. From a stop Id get out about 1-1.5 cars, and I think he couldnt get past me till around top of 3rd, 80-85ish.

Hard to say, but deff. worth the race :)

Re: Hmm, Wondering if I can win. D16Z6 VS. B16A1
 

---- dude who gives a ---- IF you lose, if you have an ich to race him do it :P

*EDIT* unless it for money ;D

Re: Hmm, Wondering if I can win. D16Z6 VS. B16A1
 

If he's your average ricer that had someone install his kit, I'd say he's at right about 7psi, which makes him a big loser to your 15 on a single cam.


And if you lose, who cares? ???

Re: Hmm, Wondering if I can win. D16Z6 VS. B16A1
 

Well, I do care and I dont, I'd like to be the quickest Honda in my city, since there are only 300,000 people, I know even if i'm not, at least i'll be up there, and I just wanna beat this guy because he thinks so highly of his CRX like its his god or something.

Re: Hmm, Wondering if I can win. D16Z6 VS. B16A1
 

run nitrous

Re: Hmm, Wondering if I can win. D16Z6 VS. B16A1
 

You'll take him, if not you're ghey. ;D

Re: Hmm, Wondering if I can win. D16Z6 VS. B16A1
 

I had 91 hatch b16, 12 psi no prob. It was quick but I don't' know if it could take much more. but remember 12psi from a t25 is much different from 12psi t3/t4. cfm makes the power. bong just break his keg then race him

Re: Hmm, Wondering if I can win. D16Z6 VS. B16A1
 

My sister has the same car, it's an LX Special Edition.

Stan

Re: Hmm, Wondering if I can win. D16Z6 VS. B16A1
 

do you even have this setup in a car yet, or is this one of those mystical fantasy races?

Re: Hmm, Wondering if I can win. D16Z6 VS. B16A1
 

its a mystical tea cup ride fook.. these guys are dreaming.

Re: Hmm, Wondering if I can win. D16Z6 VS. B16A1
 

DX, LX, EX - Coupe OR Sedan

DX - Manual Everything, No Sunroof, AC?
LX - Power Everything, Cruise, AC, No Sunroof
EX - EVERYTHING

CX, VX, SI - Hatches

CX - Manual Everything..
VX - Power Everything..
SI - Everything (and VTAK!!!11)

Re: Hmm, Wondering if I can win. D16Z6 VS. B16A1
 

So this setup isn't even in your car yet? :-\

Chances are this kid doesn't know how to drive and you'll probably hand his ass to him while he's trying to "double clutch" when he shouldn't. :P He's probably running a Greddy turbo at about 6-7psi and E-manage/AFC or an FMU. No launch control so you'll rape his ass out of the hole anyways. I bet he revs it to redline and drops the clutch at launch. ::) Probably stock clutch too..........
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Re: Hmm, Wondering if I can win. D16Z6 VS. B16A1
 

your car is an LX martin
my advice is get your swap and kit in then worry about it.
chances are you will beat him though, you know how to drive and your car is probably lighter

Re: Hmm, Wondering if I can win. D16Z6 VS. B16A1
 

yeah i would say that if he didn't do it himself then he is probly running 6-8 psi and ---- for fuel managment.

get your ---- in and go rape him

Re: Hmm, Wondering if I can win. D16Z6 VS. B16A1
 

stock weights:
LX Sedan is about 2600 lbs..
SI CRX (which its probably not, so its lighter) is about 2000 lbs..

Re: Hmm, Wondering if I can win. D16Z6 VS. B16A1
 

Find out two things, what tires hes using and his fuel managment. That will tell you a lot.

Re: Hmm, Wondering if I can win. D16Z6 VS. B16A1
 

I wana see the 300 horse at 15psi on a D

Re: Hmm, Wondering if I can win. D16Z6 VS. B16A1
 

ur going to blow up ur car....haha

Re: Hmm, Wondering if I can win. D16Z6 VS. B16A1
 

How do you figure that ::) Thats a built motor, I meant how do you plan on getting 300 horse on that setup. Im at 15psi on my built d16z6 and only hiting 250 horse. If it means anything i raced a semi stock evo (just had a damn can ::)) from a second gear roll and it was pretty even at 12psi in my other wise stock 95 ex with a 60/63 trim-I hear at H-T I should have ate him up but them fuckers are fast.

Re: Hmm, Wondering if I can win. D16Z6 VS. B16A1
 

My buddy has an Si that doesn't have power windows, wtf mate???

Re: Hmm, Wondering if I can win. D16Z6 VS. B16A1
 

Not quite.

LX sedan is 2320#
My dead '91 CRX was 2162#

Re: Hmm, Wondering if I can win. D16Z6 VS. B16A1
 

go the b16a

b16a ...

b- beware
a- animal

O0 b16animal

time 4 another J . then rape

Re: Hmm, Wondering if I can win. D16Z6 VS. B16A1
 

what the ---- are you talking about? ???

Re: Hmm, Wondering if I can win. D16Z6 VS. B16A1
 

Its a shame that someone who has been on this site since the forums opened would ask such a retarded question. :-\

Re: Hmm, Wondering if I can win. D16Z6 VS. B16A1
 

duno man .. just a random thought . blame the bud
i have just landed on ice .

Re: Hmm, Wondering if I can win. D16Z6 VS. B16A1
 

You gotta race to find out if your car sucks or not. And you gotta find out if you can drive worth a ----, too. FWD will let you know in a big hurry if you are ------- up at driving. Go race him, I'm sure you will either win or lose, then make your car faster anyway.

Re: Hmm, Wondering if I can win. D16Z6 VS. B16A1
 

fag

Re: Hmm, Wondering if I can win. D16Z6 VS. B16A1
 

To all the haters...---- you all, to all the supporters, Engine is going in next week, cant wait to get her broken in, ARP headstuds and 3 bar map will be coming shortly after that.

15 psi should hold good for miles and miles on my setup. I just got my ECU chipped today, getting it ready for some uberdata when I do my install.

Re: Hmm, Wondering if I can win. D16Z6 VS. B16A1
 

IS this all taking place in Arizona by chance?

Re: Hmm, Wondering if I can win. D16Z6 VS. B16A1
 

Isn't the Lx - D15B7?