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Smith-02 06-11-2008 10:37 PM

the hindenburg
 
was painted with aluminum and iron oxide.

thermite anyone? :6 :y

catch.can 06-11-2008 10:49 PM

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watchin that show too huh?

Bone1 06-11-2008 11:52 PM

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tannerite is fun as well :)

ghettoturbo 06-12-2008 09:18 AM

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dont you need magnesium for thermite too?



anyway, my grandfather helped with that shizzle at lakehurst (not the time it went boom)

E-b0la 06-12-2008 09:56 AM

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the magnesium is to produce the heat necessary to light the thermite IIRC.

Cray91 06-12-2008 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by E-b0la
the magnesium is to produce the heat necessary to light the thermite IIRC.

Yeah that is all it is for. If you can get anything as hot as that it will ignite it. Magnesium is just a really common way.

ghettoturbo 06-12-2008 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by E-b0la
the magnesium is to produce the heat necessary to light the thermite IIRC.

to a few thousand cubic feet of hydrogen would do the trick then too, huh

JoshMO 06-12-2008 04:54 PM

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sparklers are what you need. cheap and effective fuses.

Atticus 06-12-2008 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JoshMO
sparklers are what you need. cheap and effective fuses.

x2
+ wont go out and burn slow

J-MAN 06-12-2008 08:10 PM

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im lazy can i get some cliffs on what the hindenburg was? im thinking somethign about a blimp right? or is that completley different

ghettoturbo 06-12-2008 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffsciv23
im lazy can i get some cliffs on what the hindenburg was? im thinking somethign about a blimp right? or is that completley different

german blimp that blew up over here

maybe its because i grew up in manchester (lakehurst naval base is where it blew up, and lakehurst is inside my town) that i thought everyone knew what it was

J-MAN 06-12-2008 08:25 PM

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oh ok its the one that you always see the black and white video of? cause of blowing up?

CspecRun 06-13-2008 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ghettoturbo
german blimp that blew up over here

I didn't realize it blew up in america...Did alot of ppl die when it happened or just the crew? Is the paint you guys are talking about the cause of it blowing up??

Smith-02 06-13-2008 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by CspecRun
I didn't realize it blew up in america...Did alot of ppl die when it happened or just the crew? Is the paint you guys are talking about the cause of it blowing up??

yes and no. it was filled with hydrogen. hydrogen vs helium, 8 hydrogen atoms have the same mass as 1 helium atom. aka, use much less space, and lift more.

aluminum paint coated the hindenburg, with an iron oxide based primer on the inner lining, something about porosity?

Jorsher 06-13-2008 10:31 PM

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I bought some thermite back in the day and still got some magnesium ribbon. You can start the magnesium with a lighter, and the thermite with magnesium, but it blows out pretty quick. Thermite burns really ------- fast.

How they built the hindenburg just sounds ------- stupid. Did it seem so stupid at the time?

J-MAN 06-13-2008 11:44 PM

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sounds like it kinda was built to blow up lol.

see guys there is educational stuff on HMT still lol, not just porn and dumb newbs

Tom-Guy 06-14-2008 12:05 AM

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It isn't until the last 50 years that materials selection has become a science. Engineers of the Hindenburg era likely didn't know much by the way of pyrotechnics chemistry, etc.

onlyflash944 06-14-2008 12:10 AM

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i thought the US had a stranglehold on he production. germans couldnt' get any, they use h instead. static charge builds up on anything that air passes over (slightly more complicated than that tho), then when the guiding cable touched down on the us side, sent a spark up the rope. spark + highly flamable gas = boom.


ever shot roman candles at acetylene filled balloons?

Jorsher 06-14-2008 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by onlyflash944
i thought the US had a stranglehold on he production.

Stranglehold on what production?

onlyflash944 06-14-2008 12:44 AM

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again, i *thought* that the us was the only country at the time capable to produce that much he. the germans couldn't so they had to use h. you know, like the us had the atom bomb before anyone else, we could mass produce he before anyone else too. since the us could use he to make balloons for war and such, we didn't share.

ghettoturbo 06-14-2008 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by onlyflash944
i thought the US had a stranglehold on he production. germans couldnt' get any, they use h instead. static charge builds up on anything that air passes over (slightly more complicated than that tho), then when the guiding cable touched down on the us side, sent a spark up the rope. spark + highly flamable gas = boom.


ever shot roman candles at acetylene filled balloons?

it flew here more than just the one time though, not sure what made it blow the last time

Bone1 06-14-2008 05:34 AM

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May 36 was the first time, May 37 was the last time

signorelli21 06-14-2008 01:40 PM

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The reason it was filled with Hydrogen is because the us has the only natural deposits of helium in the world, and we wouldn't give it to them because the nazi party might use it for military purposes, google the "Helium control act".

Doesn't matter though, the paint is what actually burned and caused the whole disaster, even if it was filled with helium the same thing would have happened because the diesel fuel from the engines would have still caught fire and the airship would have still crashed.

CivicComingSoon 06-14-2008 08:29 PM

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mythbusters did a huge special on this.

Its season 5 ep 1 or "501"

was a great show.


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