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hondaunlimited 12-04-2006 09:37 PM

Re: Hi there HMT, introduction
 

Originally Posted by Dr.Boost
Eh? ???



there, i fixed it....

and that big-ass long list doesn't need to be there.

baker_jeff 12-04-2006 10:01 PM

Re: Hi there HMT, introduction
 
Welcome, fellow Canuck. :8

Tom-Guy 12-04-2006 10:18 PM

Re: Hi there HMT, introduction
 
The perkies almost - but not quite - made up for how badly your car sucks.

Quit telling us what you've been told on Honda-Tech, and get rid of the MSD ----. It is useless. Your spark plug selection is assinine. If you are running anything other than stock Honduh plug wires then you fucked up. And, that's just a simple ignition setup. :3

Martin, you seem like a nice guy, but your French blood runs strong. The fact you have a solid grasp of english, and can at least identify a decent set of tits, shows you have potential. Help us help you and you'll be one of the handful of French-Canadians welcome in America. :)

Dr.Boost 12-04-2006 10:20 PM

Re: Hi there HMT, introduction
 

Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
Help us help you and you'll be one of the handful of French-Canadians welcome in America. :)

Don't overstep your boundaries.
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martingouda 12-04-2006 10:26 PM

Re: Hi there HMT, introduction
 
Alot of the mods like short ram are just what are in there now but will be chopped down to fit witht he turbo anyways like you said... I'll think alot of the garage guru's will judge the choices i made about fuel management and such, many people think e-manage is a waste of money and i hear alot of guys hating on msd as well

can i ask what EXPERIENCES you guys have had with msd to make you all hate so much?

To me the msd ignition is defiantly more powerful than the stock coil and in the higher rpms it makes sure that i am not dealing with weak sparks and misfires in the top end of the powerband. this consistence in spark and the multi spark setup in the low end that makes sure you get the most of your spent fuel this setup was the best bang for the buck and beyond that stuff i find the car starts much better with it.

the emanage on the other hand was got for less than $300 cdn dollars with the E-01 controller and all the harnesses which was the price of a single tuning of the P-28 with chrome on the street but it offers me the chance to do it as often as i want and log everything for live on board tuning.some people think it's overkill or that it's a hack, but for me it was a classy way to do the injector upgrades and tune the air fuel ratios...

other than that i don't know what else you think are garbage about the setup


oh for the person that asked about the S2000 filters, if you look at them they are diffrent internaly and the s2000 filter is higher flow and lower resistance to be able to flow with out clogging or significant back pressure after 9000rpm, they share the diameter and thread pitch and are typicaly only a few dollars more. some say they catch a little less but i've seen a small change in oil pressure due to this and with the new setup that will include an oil cooler and a turbo to feed i think oil flow will be a big issue that i will have to keep tabs on. hence the oil temp gauge and as soon as i have a chance to find a matching oil pressure gauge and water temp gauge to match the 3 i have i will be throwing that in the glove box with the rest.

Dr.Boost 12-04-2006 10:32 PM

Re: Hi there HMT, introduction
 

Originally Posted by martingouda
Alot of the mods like short ram are just what are in there now but will be chopped down to fit witht he turbo anyways like you said... I'll think alot of the garage guru's will judge the choices i made about fuel management and such, many people think e-manage is a waste of money and i hear alot of guys hating on msd as well

can i ask what EXPERIENCES you guys have had with msd to make you all hate so much?

To me the msd ignition is defiantly more powerful than the stock coil and in the higher rpms it makes sure that i am not dealing with weak sparks and misfires in the top end of the powerband. this consistence in spark and the multi spark setup in the low end that makes sure you get the most of your spent fuel this setup was the best bang for the buck and beyond that stuff i find the car starts much better with it.

the emanage on the other hand was got for less than $300 cdn dollars with the E-01 controller and all the harnesses which was the price of a single tuning of the P-28 with chrome on the street but it offers me the chance to do it as often as i want and log everything for live on board tuning.some people think it's overkill or that it's a hack, but for me it was a classy way to do the injector upgrades and tune the air fuel ratios...

other than that i don't know what else you think are garbage about the setup


oh for the person that asked about the S2000 filters, if you look at them they are diffrent internaly and the s2000 filter is higher flow and lower resistance to be able to flow with out clogging or significant back pressure after 9000rpm, they share the diameter and thread pitch and are typicaly only a few dollars more. some say they catch a little less but i've seen a small change in oil pressure due to this and with the new setup that will include an oil cooler and a turbo to feed i think oil flow will be a big issue that i will have to keep tabs on. hence the oil temp gauge and as soon as i have a chance to find a matching oil pressure gauge and water temp gauge to match the 3 i have i will be throwing that in the glove box with the rest.

You didn't have a "*" next to the intake so I assumed you were planning on buying one. :l

MSD coils have left me stranded TWICE. ---- me once, shame on you, ---- me twice, I'm an idiot and throwing the pile of ---- in the trash. What advantages do you think you're going to get by running this super badass MSD ignition on your sub-200whp Honda? Do you think the super crazy horsepower your motor is going to be making with 7psi is going to require some sort of extravagent ignition system or it just won't work to its full potential? :1 Obviously you haven't read near enough on these forums if you're contemplating spending money on e-manage. I suggest www.turbod16.com for your website of choice. :3
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Tom-Guy 12-04-2006 10:34 PM

Re: Hi there HMT, introduction
 

Originally Posted by martingouda
can i ask what EXPERIENCES you guys have had with msd to make you all hate so much?

I've tuned more turbo cars than you will ever bum rides in over the course of your life. At this point, I expect xenocron has as well.

Any other questions we can help you out with?

PS - eManage is a hack.

BigWheeze 12-04-2006 10:43 PM

Re: Hi there HMT, introduction
 
Isnt big tits boyfriend a canuck

jinxy 12-04-2006 10:45 PM

Re: Hi there HMT, introduction
 

Originally Posted by martingouda

Thats not a real person, thats deffinatly a mannequin


Plus, I don't see any MS paint action from you guys, just alot of talking. I'm dissapointed.

Tough-guy 12-05-2006 01:45 AM

Re: Hi there HMT, introduction
 
^^^I'd say CGI.. Look at the lighting and the hair texture.

BigWheeze 12-05-2006 01:52 AM

Re: Hi there HMT, introduction
 

Originally Posted by Stealthmode
You shoulda been left in the dumpster at planned parenthood.

Ok now that was completely called for. Also I think its something like 'paternité planifiée'. Remember hes french

martingouda do yourself a fav post real porn then kill your self.

Tough-guy 12-05-2006 02:22 AM

Re: Hi there HMT, introduction
 
Or you can kill your self on film and have someone else (that doesn't drive a Del Sol) post it on streetfire.



Your mom should have swallowed you!

t0n 12-05-2006 03:56 AM

Re: Hi there HMT, introduction
 
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dragon 12-05-2006 08:03 AM

Re: Hi there HMT, introduction
 
love me sum jordan O0

idiot-stick 12-05-2006 08:42 AM

Re: Hi there HMT, introduction
 
lol @ ricer wanting to use E-manage on a honda.

Are you gonna make your own gasoline too? Or take the easy way and just get some at the pump?

d16forlife 12-05-2006 09:08 AM

Re: Hi there HMT, introduction
 
Asides from her perky little tits and verry edible vage, what I like most about Jordan is her lips and her smile "shes got a pert-e mauf"...........Awwwwww!......MAN! Now how do I explain what happend to the keyboard? :-[ :P

Chris Harris 12-05-2006 09:52 AM

Re: Hi there HMT, introduction
 

Originally Posted by martingouda
i've heard a few people say that the msd ignition will give me issues in the higher boost levels but on stock internals i don't plan on running more than a typical 5-7 psi on the motor and i think that the stock ignition setups are competent but having worked on alot of cars in the past i have always found that external coils are better and i've also heard that with out the SCI setups running a pro cap and external coil isn't a good plan.

This may be true in other realms...you will quickly learn that the stuff MSD has put out for a Honda is ABSOLUTE Garbage.

Stock Honda ignitions are running 600+ HP setups at 10,500 RPMs all day long

KISS

martingouda 12-05-2006 10:32 AM

Re: Hi there HMT, introduction
 
as a chipping guru do you think that i will hurt the setup or do you just not trust them? i've only had them in the honda for a few weeks now but i've seen a 2hp increase since upgrading all of them as well as faster starts and what feels like smoother revving under 3000 rpm and a much more stable idle.

if my only goal with emanage is to be able to manage the injector swap and tune for a good air fuel ratio across the board do you really think that isn't possible? i mean the system might not be as flexible as uberdata or hondata but it seems that after having looked at chrome and the emanage software that they are pretty similar and people seem to have good results with that.

also the emanage will eliminate the need for a "missing link" or check valves. i know this site isn't all about clean installs but i don't want to leave anything out here so if theres something i'm missing let me know.

i hear you on the keep it simple stupid thing but really i don't agree that my setup is any less simple than needed, the extrenal coil and box serve a purpose and from what i've seen so far they do it well, if there is anything overkill in my setup it willl be the oil cooler and intercooler but i felt that a direct piped t25 would be pushing alot of hot air into a motor not built internaly for boost.

Tom-Guy 12-05-2006 11:46 AM

Re: Hi there HMT, introduction
 

Originally Posted by martingouda
as a chipping guru do you think that i will hurt the setup or do you just not trust them? i've only had them in the honda for a few weeks now but i've seen a 2hp increase since upgrading all of them as well as faster starts and what feels like smoother revving under 3000 rpm and a much more stable idle.

2 hp is a bullshit figure. You are going to get 2 hp or more variance between any two dyno pulls on the same day, regardless of what you do.

Everything else you mention is a subjective and wholly worthless gain. I've yet to see a Honduh with a clean fuel filter and in good running order that didn't start on the first lick - how do you start any faster than that? "Smoother revving" is erroneous, as well, what you are experiencing is most likely how the MSD throws off timing a couple degrees. If you play around with timing below 3000 rpms it is not uncommon to net 25% more power than stock in that region, as per Hyundaidata's tech blurb.



Originally Posted by martingouda
if my only goal with emanage is to be able to manage the injector swap and tune for a good air fuel ratio across the board do you really think that isn't possible?

AFRs can be about as accurate as a hand grenade, as long as you pitch it on the rich side, and an engine will hold together for a good long while. Ignition timing is engine safety, *especially* when stock timing is too much timing under boost, and **especially** when boosting a small bore D-series that really doesn't like timing under boost.



Originally Posted by martingouda
i hear you on the keep it simple stupid thing but really i don't agree that my setup is any less simple than needed,

Since e-Manage doesn't address ignition timing, it's an extremely complicated method of doing nothing but giving you a false sense of security based on fantasyland bullshit and LIES.


Originally Posted by martingouda
if there is anything overkill in my setup it willl be the oil cooler and intercooler but i felt that a direct piped t25 would be pushing alot of hot air into a motor not built internaly for boost.

Crap reasoning. You are moving mostly in the right direction with that line of thought, but your reasoning is swiss cheese. You have a lot of homework to do, cheese eater. Start in the Engine Management forum and read for at least three hours before you make a single post. Don't plan on boosting for a month or more. Or, learn the hard way, it's your call.

martingouda 12-05-2006 11:52 AM

Re: Hi there HMT, introduction
 
does that mean you don't think that with the ignition and injector harnesses that timing and fuel can be run accuratly with this stuff?

Tom-Guy 12-05-2006 12:04 PM

Re: Hi there HMT, introduction
 
After you drop the money on an E-manage with all the jury-rigged piggyback harnesses you have a halfassed tool meant for stock MAP and low power that you still have to buy a wideband or pay a dyno for wideband use to tune. For the same price or less you can go to www.------------- and have all the goodies to turn an OEM ECU into a top notch standalone *including* buying a wideband and tune your ---- better, for more power, and as many times as you want to, not to mention being able to set all your riceboy friends up with tunes.

Anyway, I could argue with a wall but it won't change the wall's mind. See you in a tech thread, or maybe I'll haze you a little in another GD thread.


jaykew99 12-05-2006 12:19 PM

Re: Hi there HMT, introduction
 
If you are going to bitch about personal pictures don't have a myspace account and dont use ur actual name as your s/n you fat ass crack

bitchasscracker 12-05-2006 12:30 PM

Re: Hi there HMT, introduction
 
HOW IS IT YOU END UP WITH THE CAR OF MY DREAMS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111

martingouda 12-05-2006 12:51 PM

Re: Hi there HMT, introduction
 

Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
After you drop the money on an E-manage with all the jury-rigged piggyback harnesses you have a halfassed tool meant for stock MAP and low power that you still have to buy a wideband or pay a dyno for wideband use to tune. For the same price or less you can go to www.------------- and have all the goodies to turn an OEM ECU into a top notch standalone *including* buying a wideband and tune your ---- better, for more power, and as many times as you want to, not to mention being able to set all your riceboy friends up with tunes.

Anyway, I could argue with a wall but it won't change the wall's mind. See you in a tech thread, or maybe I'll haze you a little in another GD thread.


actually that made alot of sence, i'm not asking these questions scarcasticaly, i'm actually trying to learn what you guys already know. thanks

MikeJ-2009 12-05-2006 07:37 PM

Re: Hi there HMT, introduction
 
JD must have purchased some patience recently. I'm ------- jittery waiting for the execution, damn it. :7


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