Hey Johnny...
11-05-2008, 04:03 PM
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Re: Hey Johnny...
Originally Posted by snm95ls
You may be right to a point, but the problem lies in that you are bitching and moaning about it like you are the only one dealing with it.
Do you also think that you don't benefit from these horrible taxes that you don't benefit from government programs?
Is so, then maybe you should think before you post. People are quick to bitch about paying all of the taxes that we have, and I think they outrageous at times as well, but how else are we going to fund public programs that benefit all, not just the poor? Tell me Mr. Infinitude of wisdom. Are you totally self sufficient? Do you think your life would be better with no public programs?
------- **** up a rope Johnny.
Do you also think that you don't benefit from these horrible taxes that you don't benefit from government programs?
Is so, then maybe you should think before you post. People are quick to bitch about paying all of the taxes that we have, and I think they outrageous at times as well, but how else are we going to fund public programs that benefit all, not just the poor? Tell me Mr. Infinitude of wisdom. Are you totally self sufficient? Do you think your life would be better with no public programs?
------- **** up a rope Johnny.
our government is NOT SUPPOSED TO FUND PUBLIC PROGRAMS THAT "BENEFIT" all. what don't you ------- understand about that? read the constitution.
YES MY LIFE WOULD BE MUCH BETTER IF I KEPT THE MONEY I EARNED AND THERE WERE NO PUBLIC PROGRAMS.
you have to stop jumping to such ridiculous conclusions. there are certain things that the government is supposed to do. roads, defensive, courts, etc... that is fine.
i want a constitutional government, not a far reaching nanny state government that controls nearly all aspects of your life.
you're typical, just like the rest of the bandwagon idiots, ranting about this or that. but you don't understand freedom or liberty. you only want freedom in the area you think is important.
11-05-2008, 04:11 PM
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Re: Hey Johnny...
Originally Posted by random-strike
no i do not benifit from the majority of taxes i pay.
our government is NOT SUPPOSED TO FUND PUBLIC PROGRAMS THAT "BENEFIT" all. what don't you ------- understand about that? read the constitution.
YES MY LIFE WOULD BE MUCH BETTER IF I KEPT THE MONEY I EARNED AND THERE WERE NO PUBLIC PROGRAMS.
you have to stop jumping to such ridiculous conclusions. there are certain things that the government is supposed to do. roads, defensive, courts, etc... that is fine.
our government is NOT SUPPOSED TO FUND PUBLIC PROGRAMS THAT "BENEFIT" all. what don't you ------- understand about that? read the constitution.
YES MY LIFE WOULD BE MUCH BETTER IF I KEPT THE MONEY I EARNED AND THERE WERE NO PUBLIC PROGRAMS.
you have to stop jumping to such ridiculous conclusions. there are certain things that the government is supposed to do. roads, defensive, courts, etc... that is fine.
Originally Posted by random-strike
i want a constitutional government, not a far reaching nanny state government that controls nearly all aspects of your life.
Originally Posted by random-strike
you're typical, just like the rest of the bandwagon idiots, ranting about this or that. but you don't understand freedom or liberty. you only want freedom in the area you think is important.
Tell me. What are the solutions to all of our problems. You seem to have all the answers.
11-05-2008, 04:14 PM
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Re: Hey Johnny...
Originally Posted by snm95ls
You are guilty of jumping to conclusions as well.
I can respect this as I do feel the same way even though you probably think differently.
I find this funny coming from someone who was a big supporter of the Patriot Act.
Tell me. What are the solutions to all of our problems. You seem to have all the answers.
I can respect this as I do feel the same way even though you probably think differently.
I find this funny coming from someone who was a big supporter of the Patriot Act.
Tell me. What are the solutions to all of our problems. You seem to have all the answers.
what problems do we have that aren't caused by government? everytime the govt "solves" a problem they create 5 more, then they need more money and power to solve those. don't you understand?
all our problems are caused by overreaching anti-american anti-freedom anti-liberty government.
11-05-2008, 04:17 PM
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Re: Hey Johnny...
Originally Posted by James Madison, Essay on Property, March 29, 1792
A just security to property is not afforded by that government, under which unequal taxes oppress one species of property and reward another species.
Originally Posted by John Adams, letter to Abigail Adams, July 17, 1775
But a Constitution of Government once changed from Freedom, can never be restored. Liberty, once lost, is lost forever.
Originally Posted by Thomas Jefferson
God who gave us life gave us liberty. And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are a gift from God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath? Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, and that His justice cannot sleep forever.
11-05-2008, 04:17 PM
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Re: Hey Johnny...
Originally Posted by snm95ls
You may be right to a point, but the problem lies in that you are bitching and moaning about it like you are the only one dealing with it.
Do you also think that you don't benefit from these horrible taxes that you don't benefit from government programs?
Is so, then maybe you should think before you post. People are quick to bitch about paying all of the taxes that we have, and I think they outrageous at times as well, but how else are we going to fund public programs that benefit all, not just the poor? Tell me Mr. Infinitude of wisdom. Are you totally self sufficient? Do you think your life would be better with no public programs?
Do you also think that you don't benefit from these horrible taxes that you don't benefit from government programs?
Is so, then maybe you should think before you post. People are quick to bitch about paying all of the taxes that we have, and I think they outrageous at times as well, but how else are we going to fund public programs that benefit all, not just the poor? Tell me Mr. Infinitude of wisdom. Are you totally self sufficient? Do you think your life would be better with no public programs?
The bottom line if there is a need for something people are smart enough to figure out a way to fulfill it. We don't always need the government to hold our hand in everything.
Originally Posted by snm95ls
------- **** up a rope Johnny.
11-05-2008, 04:28 PM
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Re: Hey Johnny...
Originally Posted by random-strike
i was not a big supporter of the patriot act. i only argued that it wasn't as bad as everything said. and people outside the US don't have US constitutional rights.
I do agree that people outside of the U.S. or those who are not U.S. citizens have no constitutionally protected rights.
Originally Posted by random-strike
what problems do we have that aren't caused by government? everytime the govt "solves" a problem they create 5 more, then they need more money and power to solve those. don't you understand?
all our problems are caused by overreaching anti-american anti-freedom anti-liberty government.
all our problems are caused by overreaching anti-american anti-freedom anti-liberty government.
Originally Posted by E-b0la
There are a lot of things we could easily do without in the government. Take college loans for example. Do we really need have government loans? No. All it does is create a bureaucracy that needs funding through taxes I don't want to pay. There's plenty of banks available.
The bottom line if there is a need for something people are smart enough to figure out a way to fulfill it. We don't always need the government to hold our hand in everything.
The bottom line if there is a need for something people are smart enough to figure out a way to fulfill it. We don't always need the government to hold our hand in everything.
Originally Posted by E-b0la
It's "**** up a drain pipe" dumbass. **** up a rope doesn't make any ------- sense.
11-05-2008, 04:38 PM
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Re: Hey Johnny...
Ran across this and figured you ******* would enjoy.
I know I did.
11-05-2008, 04:45 PM
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Re: Hey Johnny...
Originally Posted by snm95ls
That isn't exactly how I remeber your stance, but I will take your word for it. I am pretty sure that I remember you arguing that if you have nothing to hide, then why does it matter. Sorry, but your own view as of right now doesn't support that line of reasoning. The Patriot Act is an outfight invasion of privacy, that is filled with vague language. Tell me where I am wrong here as I am sure you will.
the patriot act is a invasion of privacy. but stealing my money through taxes is just as bad or worse. money is power and the government wants more of it, and never ever will want less.
11-05-2008, 04:51 PM
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Re: Hey Johnny...
Originally Posted by random-strike
i don't remember exactly what i've said in every post. but i know that i would not say if you have nothing to hide don't worry about it. that is really an idiotic argument and obviously i would not be for anything like that.
the patriot act is a invasion of privacy. but stealing my money through taxes is just as bad or worse. money is power and the government wants more of it, and never ever will want less.
the patriot act is a invasion of privacy. but stealing my money through taxes is just as bad or worse. money is power and the government wants more of it, and never ever will want less.
LMAO.
Whatever man. Although we do not historically get along on here, we do share some common threads.
I am surprised you haven't resorted to calling me a *** guzzling ****** liberal as you have done in the past. Hopefully this is something you have gorwn out of.
11-05-2008, 04:54 PM
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Re: Hey Johnny...
If the gov makes no money how do you think roads are gonna be build? Bridge? Subway? Bus? Sewer?
Who's gonna pay Cops? Judges? Politician's income? Prison? Water cleaning central?
Oh yeah, you don't need cops and judges cause you have a gun :1
Irak war?
Who's gonna pay Cops? Judges? Politician's income? Prison? Water cleaning central?
Oh yeah, you don't need cops and judges cause you have a gun :1
Irak war?
