Have you been reloaded? (Spoilers here)
05-17-2003, 01:40 AM
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Re:Have you been reloaded? (Spoilers here)
THey sign a little paper saying:
I ________________(your name) dont want to be in the matrix thank you very much.
jk
I dont know... guess it was like neo in the first one. remember how he was found... with all those questions and stuff... I guess thats how they choose not to be part of it.
Questioning reality. and then they find you and set you free...
I didnt like the ending.... it felt like getting head and the girl just gets up and walks away leaving you hanging there wondering what the hell just happend.
I ________________(your name) dont want to be in the matrix thank you very much.
jk
I dont know... guess it was like neo in the first one. remember how he was found... with all those questions and stuff... I guess thats how they choose not to be part of it.
Questioning reality. and then they find you and set you free...
I didnt like the ending.... it felt like getting head and the girl just gets up and walks away leaving you hanging there wondering what the hell just happend.
05-17-2003, 03:23 AM
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Re:Have you been reloaded? (Spoilers here)
lol.. yea the endin was a bit ------ wierd... did u guys stick around for the matrix 3 trailer? he has to kill all the agent smiths!! so the oracle said. but he was bad *** when he got pissed and flew to save trinitys hot ***... like a ------ hurricane!! i think hes powers are gonna be 50x better on the 3rd one.. 
05-17-2003, 04:58 PM
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Re:Have you been reloaded? (Spoilers here)
i saw the movie yesterday, it was alright.
there are a lot of things that don't match up if you think about it. neo can manipulate the matrix however he wants, so why does he even fight anything? and he can bring trinity back to life, so what does it matter if anyone died or if anything happends to them? neo can just change it. and i thought that whatever happend in the matrix happend in the "real world" ie in their ship. so trinity dies in the matrix, from a bullet to the heart, she dies in the "real world" but in the matrix she is brought back to life, but the damage is already done in the "real world" and you can't turn back time. UNLESS the "real world" is an older version of the matrix, that is why she is alive again, and that is why neo can stop the sentinals.
anyways the movie contridicts itself lots of times, but anyways it was worth $8.00 I GUESS. even though i could hardly care about any movies, this is the first movie i've seen since van wilder.
there are a lot of things that don't match up if you think about it. neo can manipulate the matrix however he wants, so why does he even fight anything? and he can bring trinity back to life, so what does it matter if anyone died or if anything happends to them? neo can just change it. and i thought that whatever happend in the matrix happend in the "real world" ie in their ship. so trinity dies in the matrix, from a bullet to the heart, she dies in the "real world" but in the matrix she is brought back to life, but the damage is already done in the "real world" and you can't turn back time. UNLESS the "real world" is an older version of the matrix, that is why she is alive again, and that is why neo can stop the sentinals.
anyways the movie contridicts itself lots of times, but anyways it was worth $8.00 I GUESS. even though i could hardly care about any movies, this is the first movie i've seen since van wilder.
05-17-2003, 05:43 PM
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Re:Have you been reloaded? (Spoilers here)
the movie just kicked *** straight out. I love what they did with the story it got me thinking about it for a couple of days now. The smith and neo fight was just bad *** he fucked them up bad. As for the matrix 3 revolution tralior i stook around and saw it ,neo is going to one bad *** *****.
05-17-2003, 08:14 PM
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Re:Have you been reloaded? (Spoilers here)
Okay, seen it three times now. I understand what is going on.
Random you must keep in mind Neo did not know what he was capable of... I guess the Wachowski brothers think that love is the emotion of humans that conquer all. It was loving her that made him choose not to save Zion, it was loving her that brought her back to life (and indeed himself in the first matrix).
What I understood this time, is that to the machines... the matrix is perfect... but a human mind is flawed and different. If the brain rejects the matrix (even subconciously) it can cause the whole system to go hay wire. Thus they created the "Oracle" and this whole prophecy idea, while embedding extra code into a random human (Neo) that makes his will stronger then other humans.
Really, if you watch it again there is a lot of foreshadowing. The discussion of the french guy, saying...
"Choice is only an illusion, created by those who are in control" is rather straight to the point. Neo did not choose to be the one, the machines gave him the idea that he 'chose' the path via the oracle.
Now to go back to Random Strike talking about the bullet in the heart - this is a tricky scene to try and explain. But my fanatacism for this movie can probably go over it - the blood that 'bleeds' in the real world from artificial damage is just a directors way of telling the audience they're feeling the pain. In reality, if the matrix were true and your brain were only conceiving the pain, and you took a bullet in the heart you would only feel like there was a bullet (because of the impulses your brain was recieving) in reality there would be no hole in your body but a human brain cannot ignore the reality of that pain.
Neo on the other hand, is semi-AI. He carries code in his brain of how the matrix works, thus how he is able to do what he can do. Think of it in terms of that the matrix is really constructed to meet the prophecy and not that he is really special. He is just there so that they can keep zion from being a threat.
This time around though, Neo and Agent Smith crossed paths. Which is most likely why Neo had control over the sentinels (since the Agents were directly wired to them) or that Neo is in fact, a machine himself, or they are in a subsidiary matrix.
Oh well hope that clears things up maybe.
Random you must keep in mind Neo did not know what he was capable of... I guess the Wachowski brothers think that love is the emotion of humans that conquer all. It was loving her that made him choose not to save Zion, it was loving her that brought her back to life (and indeed himself in the first matrix).
What I understood this time, is that to the machines... the matrix is perfect... but a human mind is flawed and different. If the brain rejects the matrix (even subconciously) it can cause the whole system to go hay wire. Thus they created the "Oracle" and this whole prophecy idea, while embedding extra code into a random human (Neo) that makes his will stronger then other humans.
Really, if you watch it again there is a lot of foreshadowing. The discussion of the french guy, saying...
"Choice is only an illusion, created by those who are in control" is rather straight to the point. Neo did not choose to be the one, the machines gave him the idea that he 'chose' the path via the oracle.
Now to go back to Random Strike talking about the bullet in the heart - this is a tricky scene to try and explain. But my fanatacism for this movie can probably go over it - the blood that 'bleeds' in the real world from artificial damage is just a directors way of telling the audience they're feeling the pain. In reality, if the matrix were true and your brain were only conceiving the pain, and you took a bullet in the heart you would only feel like there was a bullet (because of the impulses your brain was recieving) in reality there would be no hole in your body but a human brain cannot ignore the reality of that pain.
Neo on the other hand, is semi-AI. He carries code in his brain of how the matrix works, thus how he is able to do what he can do. Think of it in terms of that the matrix is really constructed to meet the prophecy and not that he is really special. He is just there so that they can keep zion from being a threat.
This time around though, Neo and Agent Smith crossed paths. Which is most likely why Neo had control over the sentinels (since the Agents were directly wired to them) or that Neo is in fact, a machine himself, or they are in a subsidiary matrix.
Oh well hope that clears things up maybe.
05-18-2003, 01:01 AM
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Re:Have you been reloaded? (Spoilers here)
yea.. .there was a trailer i just seen it again tonight... but didnt stay for the 3rd trailer.. credits are like 10 mins long and ----... almost pissed my pants waitin the firs time.. god damn!!
