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crx2fast 02-28-2008 12:04 PM

got some questions/opinions on used bike..
 
ok so i really want to get a bike this spring.
i was lookin at a new harley, but with the money i make 11 grand is outa the question.. witch sucks.

so i was lookin at a local shops website and came across a 97 GSXR 600 (3000 miles on the od) there askin $3995

bikes pretty clean and comes with new tires and full micron exhaust.

actual bike...

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/4...gsxr600zg8.jpg



the thing is i have never bought anything new like this before.. so i have a bunch of questions to ask. you think they would come down on the price at all, or you think thats an allright deal? seems a little high for a 97 regardless of the miles.

i was lookin to put like 1500 down maybe 2000. but the thing is i have no credit card, i dont do that check bullshit.. i was woundering if i could just come in monthly to there shop and just pay them, but i guess thats a question i really need to ask them.

also whats like the standard fee on registration/plates and that kinda ----? or do they do all that ---- for you at the dealer?

but i guess the big question is how much do you guys pay insurance wise (i know it will be different for every state, just need a ball park figure).. i'll probly just have it insured for like 4 months anyway.

anyway what you guys think? good deal or no?

sikcrx89 02-28-2008 12:09 PM

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if they have a buy here pay here type of financing then i dont see why you couldnt walk in the shop and pay for it. im sure being under 25 and a sports bike wouldnt be the cheapest on insureance but i guess that depends on who you have.. i would pick it up.. looks good

Jorsher 02-28-2008 12:10 PM

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That seems like a decent deal for the miles but I've never purchased one either, although I'd like to this spring/summer.

Most of the questions you asked, we won't be able to answer.

If they'll come down on the price and if they'll let you walk in to make payments depends on the place you buy it from.

Plates and registration will depend on your state, you can probably just find your state DMV's website and I'm sure the fees will be on there.

Insurance, you can get quotes online. There's too many factors for someone here to give you an accurate estimate.

brick1234 02-28-2008 12:14 PM

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That looks like a nice ride and the price isnt to bad

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Originally Posted by sikcrx89
if they have a buy here pay here type of financing then i dont see why you couldnt walk in the shop and pay for it. im sure being under 25 and a sports bike wouldnt be the cheapest on insureance but i guess that depends on who you have.. i would pick it up.. looks good

vary tru about insureance mine went from $350 a year with my ninja 500 to $1000 with my new bike! but I dont think you will have such a high rate with a 600cc bike.

rsmith2786 02-28-2008 12:39 PM

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I bought my 98 F3 with less than a thousand miles on it for $3200. But buying it from a shop is going to cost a bit more so that price sounds about right. I am 21 and my insurance is about $10 per month. Just liability though.

Reddy 02-28-2008 12:41 PM

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registration and plates (in PA at least) are like $35.00 so you shouldn't be paying anymore than $50. 00 3000 miles are low for that bike so that price isn't unreasonable. Everyone comes down on the price if you haggle right.


For insurance, State Farm is your best bet but you need to have your car insured through them too. For my GSXR I was getting insurance quotes around $3500 a year from progressive, esurance and all those other companies. That with me being over 25, paid off bike and a perfect driving record. State farm gave me a price of $377 a year for full coverage for my 750


GSXR's are nice bikes, buy it and join the club :6

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scottsi 02-28-2008 01:22 PM

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that's a horrible price, my 05 636 cost the same. That bike is worth no more than 2.5k get an 01+ so you'll have fuel injection over carbs

crx2fast 02-28-2008 01:28 PM

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well theres no way there gonna take 2.5 for it.. i'm not gonna have to jet this fucker am i?

jrw racing 02-28-2008 01:51 PM

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the SRAD gsxrs are heavy bikes, my 97 gsxr 750 barely keeps up with my buddy's stock 2002 gsxr 600 and my bike has been jetted and has a full exhaust. I would look for something a little newer, you will be happier just my 2 cents.

crx2fast 02-28-2008 02:11 PM

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not lookin to go really fast or anything like that. just want something to cruise on... go the beach, ride with some buddies ---- like that.

thanks for the input though guys.. much appreciated

J-SMITH69 02-28-2008 02:32 PM

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don't tell hotrexxxy he'll say it sucks cause its not a 08 r1 8)

i think its a resonable price, maybe a little high. that bike won't be nearly as fast as the new 600s but it'll scoooooot along well. but you'll have everything else thats important like hanlding brakes suspension, etc...

the FI is nice though old carb'd bikes are a PITA if you have to change anything and don't have the right tuning tools.

i say get it and fun a lot of fun.

i just bought another cheap bike for this season, its a fj1100 one of the fastest superbikes of the 80s :8

wasn't running, paid 1k for it cleaned it up did a tune up starts up runs perfect

mid 10s at about 130.

its pretty ------- fast i raced an unknown size newer GSXR and pulled him so hard it was amazing for such a old bike.

riding a streetbike is one of the most fun things to do imo
http://www.dragcityvideos.com/images...0/fj1100_1.jpg

J-SMITH69 02-28-2008 02:33 PM

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damn double posttteddd

Reddy 02-28-2008 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by random-strike
its pretty ------- fast i raced an unknown size newer GSXR and pulled him so hard it was amazing for such a old bike.

:l


A newer GSXR 600 has more HP and are over 200 lbs lighter than that bike. You probably raced a newer Ninja 250.

t_cel_t 02-28-2008 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by crx2fast
not lookin to go really fast or anything like that. just want something to cruise on... go the beach, ride with some buddies ---- like that.

thanks for the input though guys.. much appreciated

dont kid yourself, after a few weeks you will be driving it full throttle all the time

J-SMITH69 02-28-2008 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Whitey
:l


A newer GSXR 600 has more HP and are over 200 lbs lighter than that bike. You probably raced a newer Ninja 250.

newer meaning late 90s early 2000s

only the brand new ones 06+ i believe (could be wrong) are that fast.

way to hate though.

Reddy 02-28-2008 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by random-strike
newer meaning late 90s early 2000s

only the brand new ones 06+ i believe (could be wrong) are that fast.

way to hate though.


Even the Y2K GSXR 600's have 100whp which is around the same as that fj and they are over 200 lbs lighter. :-\


Not hating, you'd have the same response if someone said their Civic pulled hard on a Viper.

J-SMITH69 02-28-2008 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Whitey

Even the Y2K GSXR 600's have 100whp which is around the same as that fj and they are over 200 lbs lighter. :-\


Not hating, you'd have the same response if someone said their Civic pulled hard on a Viper.

torque rules ;D

it looked like yours kinda except the exhaust was different. at any rate i raped him hard but i do have a broad usable powerband unlike the high peak hp GSXR 8)

oh and i forgot... my fj has header, exhaust, cone filters... and obviously re-jetted etc 8) prob good for a few hp

it looked like this one except with the stock exhaust

this is a 05, if he doesn't have it right in the peak power he's gunna lose 8)
[img width=600]http://www.v8eaters.com/bb/2005GSXR-600.jpg[/img]

hotrex 02-28-2008 03:59 PM

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here we go again,. look what i dug out of the trash heap and raped xxx vehicle with, omg the tq

your a ------ retard johnny. seriously. anything newer than 1954 would rape your hunk of ----

did i mention its one of the ugliest turds ive ever seen>? i wouldnt even ride that around with a ------ bag over my head for fear someone might recognize my body and heckle me beyond belief.


overall noel, bike is a solid choice my buddy has one, its cool, not overly fast but a good first bike if u were to get a crotch rocket

J-SMITH69 02-28-2008 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by hotrex
here we go again,. look what i dug out of the trash heap and raped xxx vehicle with, omg the tq

your a ------ retard johnny. seriously. anything newer than 1954 would rape your hunk of ----

did i mention its one of the ugliest turds ive ever seen>? i wouldnt even ride that around with a ------ bag over my head for fear someone might recognize my body and heckle me beyond belief.


overall noel, bike is a solid choice my buddy has one, its cool, not overly fast but a good first bike if u were to get a crotch rocket

i thought you were done with HMT?

the fj1100 is i believe the 2nd fastest bike made in the 80s 8)

only the GSXR1000 was faster and that was in 89

hey hotrex... lets see pics of your bike.

ooo you don't have one. go spend your sweet 2k tax return on a dp on a 14k 08 R1

Reddy 02-28-2008 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by random-strike
torque rules ;D

it looked like yours kinda except the exhaust was different. at any rate i raped him hard but i do have a broad usable powerband unlike the high peak hp GSXR 8)

oh and i forgot... my fj has header, exhaust, cone filters... and obviously re-jetted etc 8) prob good for a few hp

it looked like this one except with the stock exhaust

this is a 05, if he doesn't have it right in the peak power he's gunna lose 8)


An 05' has 105whp which is probably more than your 25 year old engine even though you put on an air filter which is good for an extra 300hp. :


You really do live in fantasy land. Here in reality, something that is lighter and has more power is faster. Torque is bullshit. If torque mattered we'd all be racing diesels. So I guess if money were on the line you would bet on a tractor trailer beating a turbo Supra in a highway race becuase the torque is just going to own the peaky HP. :-\

J-SMITH69 02-28-2008 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Whitey

An 05' has 105whp which is probably more than your 25 year old engine even though you put on an air filter which is good for an extra 300hp. :


You really do live in fantasy land. Here in reality, something that is lighter and has more power is faster. Torque is bullshit. If torque mattered we'd all be racing diesels. So I guess if money were on the line you would bet on a tractor trailer beating a turbo Supra in a highway race becuase the torque is just going to own the peaky HP. :-\

wow talk about dense.

i have a very wide powerband. its not hard for me to find a RPM where i can start and pull hard.

im assuming his gsxr revs to 14.5k or close... and prob starts making power at 9-10k if he doesn't start there... he will get dusted so ------- hard... you could stick that 600 at 5k in any gear and it'll bog like a mother fucker.

if he doesn't put it right in the powerband, he'll get toasted on a normal informal highway race 60ish to 120ish

if he puts it right at its peak power he'll win. obviously since the bike is lighter and makes more PEAK hp (for about 3k rpms way way way up top)

same reason 1200 PEAK hp poopras run 12 flat. and this is also the same reason people run new R6s 12s @ almost 140mph.... they launch it at 9k and it STILL BOGGGSSSSSSSSSSS.

not hard to understand

Carrolll Shelby - "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races".

whitney > shelby :1

scottsi 02-28-2008 06:00 PM

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peak power @60mph is probably 1s gear.

scottsi 02-28-2008 06:02 PM

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Also, dont buy that bike, at the very least get a 01 f4i, get something feul injected. Carbs suck. I'd say go with a 750. I've had my 636 for about 3 months and i've already geared it because i feel its not fast enough, and the 636 has more or equal hp than the newer 600's because it has 36 extra cc. Go with a 750, ---- it get a 1000.

J-SMITH69 02-28-2008 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by scottsi
peak power @60mph is probably 1s gear.

yeap, and he'll rap it out in a instant and not move anywhere, then have to shift, at start at bottom of powerband. all the while i've pulled about 5 lengths 8)

GSX-R600 ('00) 10/00 11.13 @ 122.79 <- slower than 84 fj1100
GSX-R600 ('05) 3/058, 4/05 10.62 @ 130.5 <- about the same... slightly faster
GSX-R750 ('96) 12/96, 12/97 10.54 @ 133.5 <- about the same... slightly faster
YZF-R6 ('00) 10/00, 12/00 10.99 @ 125.24 <- about the same
YZF-R6 ('05) 4/05 10.54 @ 132.9 <- faster

FJ1100L/LC 50H / 47M '84-'85 10.7 sec @ 125.34 mph

mag race YES!

jacob 02-28-2008 06:19 PM

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ebay.... find an 05 for 4-5k
though it might not be such low miles

J-SMITH69 02-28-2008 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jacob
ebay.... find an 05 for 4-5k
though it might not be such low miles

yea

miles are not that big of a deal esp on a FI one.

HMTguy 02-28-2008 06:23 PM

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My civic smoked a viper the other day. I got video but my camera broke. It's true.

My friend's mustang gets 5 mpg

J-SMITH69 02-28-2008 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jagojon3
My civic smoked a viper the other day. I got video but my camera broke. It's true.

My friend's mustang gets 5 mpg

your fact is biased LOL

HMTguy 02-28-2008 06:29 PM

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Well how the ---- can facts be biased? 8)

Reddy 02-28-2008 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by random-strike
yeap, and he'll rap it out in a instant and not move anywhere, then have to shift, at start at bottom of powerband. all the while i've pulled about 5 lengths 8)


Ok I get it now, you did a ricer flyby. Way to go. Your awesome.



Originally Posted by random-strike
GSX-R600 ('00) 10/00 11.13 @ 122.79 <- slower than 84 fj1100
GSX-R600 ('05) 3/058, 4/05 10.62 @ 130.5 <- about the same... slightly faster
GSX-R750 ('96) 12/96, 12/97 10.54 @ 133.5 <- about the same... slightly faster
YZF-R6 ('00) 10/00, 12/00 10.99 @ 125.24 <- about the same
YZF-R6 ('05) 4/05 10.54 @ 132.9 <- faster

FJ1100L/LC 50H / 47M '84-'85 10.7 sec @ 125.34 mph

mag race YES!


Yup, your 84' is faster and better than the modern streetbike in all ways. Post vids dragging your knee on that thing.

90accordIHI 02-28-2008 07:14 PM

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get a fuel injected bike. as everyone's been saying, carbed bikes are a pain in the ass. a 600 should do it for you, be patient, you'll find a good deal.

J-SMITH69 02-28-2008 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Whitey

Ok I get it now, you did a ricer flyby. Way to go. Your awesome.



Yup, your 84' is faster and better than the modern streetbike in all ways. Post vids dragging your knee on that thing.

yeap proved wrong, change subject. typical whitney

obviously it doesn't do anything but accelerate and in fact i could drag my knee on this bike but that doesn't mean its as good as a new bike

ifly87 02-28-2008 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Whitey

Ok I get it now, you did a ricer flyby. Way to go. Your awesome.

lol, exactly what I was thinking :1

Donald125 02-28-2008 07:40 PM

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Nooooooooooooooo

http://www.consumershero.com/wp-cont...cident_054.jpg
http://www.mysembang.com/plogger/thumbs/lrg-360-a.JPG
http://www.mysembang.com/plogger/thumbs/lrg-361-b.JPG
http://www.mysembang.com/plogger/thumbs/lrg-362-c.JPG
http://images.motorcyclecruiser.com/...m-crash-md.jpg
http://www.tamparacing.com/forums/bi...rash-pics.html


J-SMITH69 02-28-2008 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Whitey
Ok I get it now, you did a ricer flyby. Way to go. Your awesome.


Originally Posted by ifly87
lol, exactly what I was thinking :1

petty clowns.

ya i bet thats it, ricer flyby.

is it considered a ricer flyby if you win by that far? is it my problem the guy didn't want to drop it into 1st on the highway so he could be in his powerband??? :1

lol thanks for those pictures donald makes me want to go ride right now :S

HMTguy 02-28-2008 07:47 PM

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What is Johnny gonna do now that he can't edit posts?

J-SMITH69 02-28-2008 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jagojon3
What is Johnny gonna do now that he can't edit posts?

ive very rarely edited posts. only when someone tries to ninja quote me

Reddy 02-28-2008 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by random-strike
yeap proved wrong, change subject. typical whitney

obviously it doesn't do anything but accelerate and in fact i could drag my knee on this bike but that doesn't mean its as good as a new bike


You just continue to prove that your a backwoods retard.



Originally Posted by random-strike
is it considered a ricer flyby if you win by that far? is it my problem the guy didn't want to drop it into 1st on the highway so he could be in his powerband??? :1


Yes, If a guy is cruising on the highway in high gear, doesn't even downshift and your banging gears next to him, its not a race...just a gross display of douchebaggery on your part.

J-SMITH69 02-28-2008 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Whitey

You just continue to prove that your a backwoods retard.



Yes, If a guy is cruising on the highway in high gear, doesn't even downshift and your banging gears next to him, its not a race...just a gross display of douchebaggery on your part.

you're going to have to take my word for it, that is was a real race.

and i don't have to bang gears, i only have five and start in 3rd at 60 :)

so im assuming no one dragged a knee until the 2000 GSXR came out? is that it?

Jorsher 02-28-2008 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by random-strike
ive very rarely edited posts. only when someone tries to ninja quote me

That's not the only time you've edited :-*

Better pic:
http://www.dianna.com/motorcycles/images/fatal.9a.jpg

---- it, still want a bike.


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