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So my terrorist attack thread was incorrect, but it looks like the small signs were there for a reason. Cover your eyes Jonny, and the rest of you put your heads back in the sand. lol.

http://oraclesyndicate.twoday.net/stories/4291644/


Cliffnotes:
Isreal bombs syria a couple weeks ago hoping Iran will retaliate, so Bush can spit nukes on Iran.(Pre-planned) Airmen involved in the whole "oops, sorry for flying nukes over the country" pulled the plug when the incident was leaked to the media. If they wouldn't have let the cat out of the bag, nobody would've heard ---- about the nukes, they go to the ME, and bomb Iran.
Nuke story leaked, and now we can't send them to Iran. Now we're all gonna play dumb and act like it didn't happen.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070921/...l_strikes_dc_1

Bush on Thursday refused to answer repeated questions about reports that Israel conducted air strikes in Syria.

"I'm not going to comment on the matter," Bush said, brushing aside several questions during a White House news conference.

Israel has also refused to talk about the reported raid.


Imagine that. The guy who has an opinion on everything around the world doesn't want to comment. Fucken clown.

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That is not what Fox news said ??? :P

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so you dont like bush es-teve? I thought you did.

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hahaha

Scary situation huh?

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That was when I had faith and a blind eye toward the government because they said they were looking out for my interests. haha.

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Im hoping more americans start to see the big picture as it is and always has been evident to outsiders but maybe its hard to notice what is going on when your in the eye of the storm so to speak :-\ Its not really Bush in particular its that group he represents are a scary lot who have a agenda that is not in the best intersets of the people :(

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Coming from an air force town, with a full air force family, everyone I know told me that you cant "lose nukes" with the various levels of security checks, being guarded like fort Knox and having to have an extremely high security clearance before you even get to touch them.

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Well, the story was that the flight was sending nukes to be decommissioned, yet the excuse is that the right side of the plane didn't have what it was supposed to?? ??? and all the checks by the numerous people were only done on the right side and not the left. Okay. :S

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Everyone knows the Left is evil, just ask Jonny. ::)

/end corny puns

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I will have to agree when it is said that you don't "lose nukes". Before ANY A/C takes of it goes through an EOR ( End of Runway) inspection. The Crew chief and pilot(s) would have already ran through the A/C forms (781s) where EVERYTHING that happens to that A/C is documented. The weapons crew (loaders) who were responsible for the nukes would have also performed EOR in which they remove all ground safety pins on the weapons and do other last minute checks. Bottom line...you don't lose nukes. I almost feel like reading all of the libertarian posts Steve has been making lately.

~Scott~

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Bush doesn't have to win re-election as this is his last term. Therefore, he has nothing to stop him from seeing out his agenda - there will be a war with Iran before the end of his term.

All that's happened here is the loss of a sweet chance to make a tactical strike with nukes that decides the whole affair... that's supposing the whole scenario doesn't escalate into another World War. I don't think ANY country doesn't have a firm opinion on the use of nuclear weapons.

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we'll save this thread.

once again, i love it when the ct half brains make date predictions, so when we don't have a war with iran before bush's term is up. i'll bump this thread.

i still think its tom cruise and his alien overlords that run the earth from their secret under ocean bases.

nice website ::)

there isn't a spec of truth or real journalism in that place.

oops i better shutup, cheney personally tapped my cable line because i figured out their world domination plans all by myself

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+1.

Consipracy theories I say.

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Yea stealthmode is definately from CT. ------- retard. ::)

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I believe he's using CT as an abbreviation for conspiracy theorist. Although I was also confused the first few times he used it, since it was in reference to you.

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You totally failled to notice Bush making repeated comments to the effect that Iran is a significant problem, while ignoring China and N Korea's more advanced nuclear development and more aggressive stances? He went from Afghanistan to Iraq on trumped up claims of WMD, none of which have been found, you really think he cares about justification at this point when there's another country he wants to attack?

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What really bothers me about Iraq is the fact that when we decided to go in and search for ---- we found absolutely nothing except a few APCs and some gold plated AK-47's. You don't just go into a military power like Iraq and find nothing. Something's fishy with that.

Now I hate conservative beliefs as much as the next liberal, but that ---- blows my mind how quickly everything was moved out.

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Iraq was far from a military power. and even if they were a "military power" they never showed 1/100th the agression towards the US as somne other countries.


we always seem to over look countries that have nukes(and the balls to use them) but no oil. but if you have oil, we'll say anything to get in there.

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Racin, thats because people wont complain as much about a war if their gas prices are a tiny bit lower. ;) Oil is the reason for these wars. If Bush was really out there to cleanse the world of evil dictators I don't think Iraq would've been high on the priority list.

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shall i quote president clinton in aprox 1993 saying saddam had wmds and was a threat?

shall i quote hilliary rotten clinton her thighness saying saddam had wmds and was a grave threat?

shall i quote various european countries saying saddam had wmds and was a threat?

bush didn't make up this crap, it was around before he was even governer of texas.

please get on the record as saying bush will start a war with iran before his term is up, so you can be wrong when it doesn't happen. even if iran started a war, you would blame america first and say bush made it happen.

oil/gas prices are higher than before the war in iraq. liberals can't agree on one talking point, either the war was for cheap oil, or the war was to drive oil prices up so bush can make more money for his friends. (how many people take huge risks so their friends can make money?)

they did find WMD in iraq, but not on the scale they thought there would be, and the stuff they found was very old. there is a book out by one of saddam's former aids saying the weapons were shipped out to syria before the war started. believe it if you want, doens't blame america so its probably not true.

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hmmm yes, that is exactly what i meant.

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exactly, but a "good" american know's it isnt about oil. its about getting rid offf terrrrrrrists.

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Oh goodie, is this another one of those really cool political threads? :1
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Unfortunately :-\

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I'm not going to debate any further with RS about political threads.

Though I'd take some pretty large chances if the payout was billions of dollars in my pockets.

Oh, and General Sean Hannity has approved of the war with Iran... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-4LVYGRzs4

What's even funnier.. is the fact that the majority of the insurgency attacks are done by Saudi Arabians.... :1

And attacking Iran because their weapons are in Iraq... Would be like.. South America attacking us because the Guerrillas down there used m16s and American weapons. Countries will sell arms to ANYONE as long as it makes money for them.... hell the United States is the world's #1 exporter of weapons. By our logic... why hasn't anyone invaded or bombed us for supplying weapons to terrorists around the world as well?

And... a quote in regards to this:

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you 2 might like to take it up the ass, but most people dont. if you dont fight back, you'll keep getting raped

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this is what is great about leftists. they make idiotic predictions, and they never come true. but no one remembers what they said, simply because it was so goddamn ridiculous in the first place.

if we attacked iran, the US would crumble? in what way? how could you possibly believe that? the rest of the world attacking us? the world depends on us too much, we should stop funding NATO and the UN. cease all the aid to european countries, cease all aid around the world.

hmmm i didn't know george bush was a BILLIONAIR LMAO. thats very comical. george bush is far far less wealtly than the typical liberal politicion. look at slip and fall john edwards.

russia exports about the same number of weapons as the united states. is russia evil? why are you not calling them out? france and germany also export a lot of weapons. and it is known that russia will soon become the largest exporter of weapons in the world. how do you feel about the countries russia sells their arms to?

iran is not selling their weapons, they are donating them.

btw, hannity is a radio and tv pundit, he is in no position to make policy, quoting him is like me quoting your theories.

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as previously stated by me... even if iran attacked israel, or attacked up outright somewhere in the world... you all would blame the united states. so whats the point of discussing it? no matter what happens your hate for president bush would make you blame him.

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going hunting, if i don't come back. you'll know that condoleezza rice dissapeared me for knowing about their iran nuke plan.

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Way to go on the head in the sand answer. Don't discuss the topic, everything is ok if you can just blame the other side for soemthing. lol. Jonny, they're all fakes. Get over it.


Okie dohky. I'm on record. You say "if Iran started a war", but you fail to realise that Iran doesn't have the capability to start a war with us from the other side of the world, despite what Bush has you believing.


Here's a list of questions Ron Paul proposed that congress didn't want to answer about the war, before it started. Please just right this off as lefty garbage if it makes too much sense. Thank you.

> QUESTIONS THAT WON'T BE ASKED ABOUT IRAQ


> Soon we hope to have hearings on the pending war with Iraq. I am concerned there are some questions that wont be asked- and maybe will not even be allowed to be asked. Here are some questions I would like answered by those who are urging us to start this war.


1. Is it not true that the reason we did not bomb the Soviet Union at the height of the Cold War was because we knew they could retaliate?

2. Is it not also true that we are willing to bomb Iraq now because we know it cannot retaliate- which just confirms that there is no real threat?

3. Is it not true that those who argue that even with inspections we cannot be sure that Hussein might be hiding weapons, at the same time imply that we can be more sure that weapons exist in the absence of inspections?

4. Is it not true that the UNs International Atomic Energy Agency was able to complete its yearly verification mission to Iraq just this year with Iraqi cooperation?

5. Is it not true that the intelligence community has been unable to develop a case tying Iraq to global terrorism at all, much less the attacks on the United States last year? Does anyone remember that 15 of the 19 hijackers came from Saudi Arabia and that none came from Iraq?

6. Was former CIA counter-terrorism chief Vincent Cannistraro wrong when he recently said there is no confirmed evidence of Iraqs links to terrorism?

7. Is it not true that the CIA has concluded there is no evidence that a Prague meeting between 9/11 hijacker Atta and Iraqi intelligence took place?

8. Is it not true that northern Iraq, where the administration claimed al-Qaeda were hiding out, is in the control of our "allies," the Kurds?

9. Is it not true that the vast majority of al-Qaeda leaders who escaped appear to have safely made their way to Pakistan, another of our so-called allies?

10. Has anyone noticed that Afghanistan is rapidly sinking into total chaos, with bombings and assassinations becoming daily occurrences; and that according to a recent UN report the al-Qaeda "is, by all accounts, alive and well and poised to strike again, how, when, and where it chooses"?

11. Why are we taking precious military and intelligence resources away from tracking down those who did attack the United States- and who may again attack the United States- and using them to invade countries that have not attacked the United States?

12. Would an attack on Iraq not just confirm the Arab world's worst suspicions about the US, and isn't this what bin Laden wanted?

13. How can Hussein be compared to Hitler when he has no navy or air force, and now has an army 1/5 the size of twelve years ago, which even then proved totally inept at defending the country?

14. Is it not true that the constitutional power to declare war is exclusively that of the Congress? Should presidents, contrary to the Constitution, allow Congress to concur only when pressured by public opinion? Are presidents permitted to rely on the UN for permission to go to war?

15. Are you aware of a Pentagon report studying charges that thousands of Kurds in one village were gassed by the Iraqis, which found no conclusive evidence that Iraq was responsible, that Iran occupied the very city involved, and that evidence indicated the type of gas used was more likely controlled by Iran not Iraq?

16. Is it not true that anywhere between 100,000 and 300,000 US soldiers have suffered from Persian Gulf War syndrome from the first Gulf War, and that thousands may have died?

17. Are we prepared for possibly thousands of American casualties in a war against a country that does not have the capacity to attack the United States?

18. Are we willing to bear the economic burden of a 100 billion dollar war against Iraq, with oil prices expected to skyrocket and further rattle an already shaky American economy? How about an estimated 30 years occupation of Iraq that some have deemed necessary to "build democracy" there?

19. Iraqs alleged violations of UN resolutions are given as reason to initiate an attack, yet is it not true that hundreds of UN Resolutions have been ignored by various countries without penalty?

20. Did former President Bush not cite the UN Resolution of 1990 as the reason he could not march into Baghdad, while supporters of a new attack assert that it is the very reason we can march into Baghdad?

21. Is it not true that, contrary to current claims, the no-fly zones were set up by Britain and the United States without specific approval from the United Nations?

22. If we claim membership in the international community and conform to its rules only when it pleases us, does this not serve to undermine our position, directing animosity toward us by both friend and foe?

23. How can our declared goal of bringing democracy to Iraq be believable when we prop up dictators throughout the Middle East and support military tyrants like Musharaf in Pakistan, who overthrew a democratically-elected president?

24. Are you familiar with the 1994 Senate Hearings that revealed the U.S. knowingly supplied chemical and biological materials to Iraq during the Iran-Iraq war and as late as 1992- including after the alleged Iraqi gas attack on a Kurdish village?

25. Did we not assist Saddam Husseins rise to power by supporting and encouraging his invasion of Iran? Is it honest to criticize Saddam now for his invasion of Iran, which at the time we actively supported?

26. Is it not true that preventive war is synonymous with an act of aggression, and has never been considered a moral or legitimate US policy?

27. Why do the oil company executives strongly support this war if oil is not the real reason we plan to take over Iraq?

28. Why is it that those who never wore a uniform and are confident that they wont have to personally fight this war are more anxious for this war than our generals?

29. What is the moral argument for attacking a nation that has not initiated aggression against us, and could not if it wanted?

30. Where does the Constitution grant us permission to wage war for any reason other than self-defense?

31. Is it not true that a war against Iraq rejects the sentiments of the time-honored Treaty of Westphalia, nearly 400 years ago, that countries should never go into another for the purpose of regime change?

32. Is it not true that the more civilized a society is, the less likely disagreements will be settled by war?

33. Is it not true that since World War II Congress has not declared war and- not coincidentally- we have not since then had a clear-cut victory?

34. Is it not true that Pakistan, especially through its intelligence services, was an active supporter and key organizer of the Taliban?

35. Why don't those who want war bring a formal declaration of war resolution to the floor of Congress?

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i can agree the world does depend on us.....to make them money. international bankers (the frederal reserve) want us to spend money so they can make more. i dont know why you are so blind to this fact. there is no way you can argue that the federal reserve doesnt want us to spend money.

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fixed ;D

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Like I said, I'm not going to argue w/ you.


You're about as fucked as the whack job conservatives that run our country.

Never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

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Johnny, you are very dense. ::)

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Do I think that it will happen before the end of his election, no. Do I think there is some major battle planning happening, ---- yeah.

Anyone notice the huge increase in military power over the past year and the near future? Wanna talk about opsec, lol, so much for keeping that ---- under the sheets...

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Yeah, alot of good your doing by sitting on the internet arguing with people about what other people might have or might not have done. ::) Way to go! You are making your country proud! :1 What exactly do you think you're "fighting back" against? What are you doing in your life that is "fighting back"? NOTHING so STFU. ::)
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what does that have to do with this debate? i agree wth you... this is not what we are talking about.

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lol

quoted for truth.

these guys think they're making such a big difference, saving the world from evil repubs.

its like a gosh darn time machine, go watch some video of the clowns in the 60s and 70s protesting everywhere. same signs, same chants, same dirty losers, same crowd...

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http://www.openfire.us/blog/archives...solidarity.jpg

my fav.
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What else would you do with that build-up? Wait for the next president to decide what to do with it, or use it?

Do you think there is enough infrastructure left in Afghanistan or Iraq to aim it at either of those places?

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what are you basing your buildup statements on? the amount of money spent?

iran's military has no chance whatsoever against ours, it would be just like iraq. we would walk through the country, and it would become a guerilla war