Getting a dirt bike (help)
 

ok, I have not been here for a long time since I finished my civic turbo. Anyways, I am now going to get a dirt bike, it will be my first and have been looking around. I am not looking for something to race just to go up to the mountains and hit the trails on weekends and also learn how to hit jumps once in awhile ;) I was looking at either the Honda XR100 or Yamaha YZ125. I am not a large guy 5 ft 6in and 150lbs. So which one should I get?

Thanks

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XR100? what are you some kind of wuss :P definatly dont get that, the yz125 is ok but if your planning on
riding in the mountains, i'd get a yzf 250.. or a crf 250, same size as 125, more power, 4 stroke.

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4 stroke Honda
XR500 is a good bike, dual sport

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or a CRF500
http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=CR...05_500x300.jpg

none of this ----- 100 ---- bitch

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I know the 100 idea was weak but some guy at the shop said that it would be good for my first bike. I don't know much about this except that I want to get into it and am lucky enough to have the cash to go get one but thought I would ask around see if I would get recommendations.

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2 stroke cold smoke 8)

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first bike, you need a 125.

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I have had many bikes. A good 4 stroke is a good starter bike. At your size an XR400R would be fine. I had one and it was a good bike.

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4 strokes are faster than 2 strokes nowadays anyways.

you seem like you're a pretty little guy and i think a good 125 would be your best bet is you're a wuss or stupid.

but if you think you can handle yourself get a 250 but dont go balls out the first time you ride it or something lol

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100 is too small get at least 125, and I like 2 strokes alot better

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power band is nice ;D but from the sounds of it a 4stroke would be better for his type of riding

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I used to race amature motocross when I was younger and some pro events when I got old enough so I have over 14 years of riding expierence and I'm only 18. If I was you I would opt of a four stroke since you will be riding a lot of trails and mountains and won't be using a lot of top end power like a yamaha yz 125 produces. I rode for a Yamaha dealer as my main coprorate sponser and I will tell you a YZ 125 will be the closest thing to a full on race bike you can buy off a showroom floor and probably wouldn't be too wuited for your riding style and ability. Any of the yamaha 4 strokes are great bikes to learn on and a 250f will give you more than you need and plenty of room to grow.

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alright, I'm not gonna lie, 2 strokes just sound cooler

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they do sound pretty cool O0
but a nice piped thumper is nice too

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no doubt 2 stroke is awesome, but the new crf and yzf 450 ------- dominate alota ---- power all over the map.

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you should definitely at least go 250, you would hate a 125.

yamaha yz 250 style, or a honda.

yamaha 426 *drool*

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yeah i got a cr125 and i can just throw that thing around, but i'm also a bit bigger then you. i would go with a xr250 or maybe even something bigger. a four stroke is a good trail bike... but a 2 stroke can "kick" let me tell you :D

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xr250 would be good for you, ok power, good terctablility, cheap these days, good starter bike. a 2 stroke powerband may own you, but i personally prefer a 2 stroke to a 4 stroke. i rode a yzf426 not long ago, it was balls out yes, but nothing like a 2 stroke for me

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Only if the 4-stroke is 2x the size. If you pair an equal sized 2 stroke next to an equal sized 4 stroke the 2 stroke will eat the 4 stroke alive. The only reason the 4 strokes are eating the 2 strokes is because they have 2x the motor. Line a 4 stroke 250cc bike against me and I'll havnd its ass to it all day long on 36:1 race gas. ---- a 4 stroke. If you want to have a fair race give me a CR500 and you can have a CRF450 and we'll see you pulls away from who. My only problem will be keeping the front end on the ground.

As a starter bike, I agree with either a 125 or a decent sized 4 stroke. I started on a 4 stroke. :-[ 4 strokes are gay though and so are 125's. I laugh at 125's. If you want to get serious and actually ride/race, get a CR250 or a CRF450. CRF450 will smoke most CR250's, but it has alot to do with the size of the motor.
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its called technology baby. 5 valve genesis heads in the yzf and such... mm

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Its called emissions killed the 2-stroke so lets hype up the only thing available. Not to even mention the weight of 4-strokes. You only need 2 strokes to make power ;)

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4 strokes last longer, easier to gas. cleaner engines

we all know what aged 2 strokes run like :-p

if i ever buy a dirtbike itd be a 4 stroke just because of those reasons 8)

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Sometimes I could get 2 seasons out of my motor and that was beating the ---- out of it. And than rebuilds were under $150. I will admit 4-strokes have an advantage at some stuff, they do climb hills like its their job while a 2-stroke you need to work at it. But I love my 2-stroke because its that. Nothing can match the powerband and the all or nothing power. Its just a different kind of monster. I'd buy a 4-stroke to ---- around on but I'd always have a 2-stroke for the serious riding

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wrong johnny, these new hi po 4 strokes are very maintenence heavy... they recommend a valve adjustment, and a new piston every 15 hrs on the new yzf250, and the crf250 about the same thing.. they make good power while there fresh, but expect the motors to tire quickly, and rebuilds on a 4 stroke are about twice the work as a 2 stroke, i rape my 125 and i change the piston and ring about twice a year.

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Don't a lot of the top supercross/motocross riders run 4 strokes now? I see a lot more of them nowadays.

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2 stokes will soon be obsolete. they are just too damn dirty, and the emissions laws are getting too damn strict.
I think we are going to be seeing some cool ---- coming from 4 stoke motocross bikes.. I still got love for the 2stroke
though..

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i got love for the ktm 520 sx tho

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when i was like 15 i aquired this kx80 :P
first two wheel thing with a motor that i ever rode and that thing was sick
granted i think i weight like 140 at the time ;)
It had the big wheel on the back and the power band was sick. I loved it....then it got impounded cause i was riding it around hammered as hell one night and when i flew past a cop i hid it behind a deli and they took it. :'(
I was nice on that little thing though...
Next one was a 125 and i could of swore my friend told me he put oil in after i filled up the tank....
but he definetly didn't hahahahhah you can guess what happened to that one. :-X

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get a ktm. the 200exc is nuce and they just came out with a 700 which i plan on riding some time soon at up and coming gncc races

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hey bro ill sell you my yz 250 your big enough, bike, helmet, new goggles , sz 11 thor boots like new, trailer, fuel tank, and chain wax, 3,000 $ pm me.. projekteg can vouch for me hes rode it bro its kinda fast though.....

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Thats becuase they're sponsors are making them ride them cause everyone wants to do away with 2-strokes

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2-strokes are about as obsolete as Muscle cars. Emissions and insurance killed them so now we're all stuck with shitty 4 cylinders

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Not true.But just incase thats why they sell and extended warrenty that will cover anything other than regular maintenance.$300 bucks for 5 years and you can rape the ---- out of the motor.As soon as it tires you take it in and get a rebuild on the h0use ;).......at least with Yamaha thats the way it is 8)

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That Yamaha warantee is complete bullshit. My buddy got that and got ocompletely fucked cause anything that breaks isn't covered. ::)

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That may be true, but the guys are still winning races.

Either way I like the sound of the 2-strokes a lot better. 4-strokes just sound gay.

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That's because they're racing other poopy 4 strokes. :P


My CR250 has had several trips to Glamis since the new topend and an ungodly amount of hours in the desert and even some highway/street use and it's still running strong. The only thing I've had to replace is a fork seal, tires, chains/sprockets, and change the oil. No problems..........


If you have a fair race with a 4 stroke 250cc motor and a 2 stroke 250cc motor the 2 stroke will abso---------lutely dominate the 4 stroke hands down without a doubt. The only way the 4 strokes ever win races is because of the massive advantage in motor size. Of course it's going to be faster, the motor is twice the size.
4 strokes are gay and that's all there is to it.
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rafi, its very true, look at the service manual for a yzf 250, you need to tear the top end apart every 15-20 hrs, which is 2 or 3 good days of riding.... :-X

i know cause i was gonna buy one, until i saw the pit the motor is, so i went back to 2 stroke.

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In my manual it says to replace the rings like every 8 hours. I've riden over 8 hours in one day before. If I had to guess I would say I have about 100-125 hours on my topend and about 400 hours on the bottom end(bottom end is stock). My buddy has probably 200 hours on his Raptor and has hardly ever chnaged the oil in it, let alone rebuild it or adjust the valves.
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his valve shims are most likely toast. your cr would wake right the ---- up with a frsh piston and ring... i rebuild mine every 50 or so hrs, and its a huge diff in throttle response and power, your jippin yourself justin

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I'll probably only ride my bike 3-4 more times between now and October. It's pretty much parked for the summer. :(
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