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Tatakai 10-07-2005 09:47 PM

fuck HT: any ideas for a VTEC switch?
 
obviously, im too poor for a vtec switch, and i want to rig up a ghetto one since my cams dont like vtec at 4.4k

tried to post it on H-T but just got a lot of "wtf u serious?" "it's a hassle to flip the switch" "tune your ECU" "get a VTEC controller" - GAY
http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1396125

Cliff Notes: My cams dont like VTEC at 4.4, so I want to know which of the 2 VTEC wires from the ECU should I splice into my rocker switch? A4 VTEC Solenoid or D6 VTEC Pressure Switch

yup. H-T sucks dick. i need HMT.com sticker O0

con 10-07-2005 09:50 PM

Re: fuck HT: any ideas for a VTEC switch?
 
what do you want? a switch to turn your v tec soliniod on because it comes on at 4400 rpm?

hotrex 10-07-2005 09:51 PM

Re: fuck HT: any ideas for a VTEC switch?
 
dude, sunnit selsl a rpm switch for 49 dollars, goddamn your a nig....


spend the money and reburn

solfly 10-07-2005 09:51 PM

Re: fuck HT: any ideas for a VTEC switch?
 
you need to apply 12v to the solenoid

that wont change the fuel and timing curves though, only the computer can do that

Tatakai 10-07-2005 09:52 PM

Re: fuck HT: any ideas for a VTEC switch?
 

Originally Posted by highroller54
what do you want? a switch to turn your v tec soliniod on because it comes on at 4400 rpm?

switch to turn it on manually at 6.5k instead of auto-engaging earlier than i want it to.

im to poor to get it chipped right now ;) and a buddy of mine has a rpm switch, but he wont just give it to me. what a bastard

Tatakai 10-07-2005 09:54 PM

Re: fuck HT: any ideas for a VTEC switch?
 

Originally Posted by solfly
you need to apply 12v to the solenoid

that wont change the fuel and timing curves though, only the computer can do that

finally some ------- information. thanks!

i've got a 12v rocker and inline fuse (i've got a shitload so tell me what to use - 20a?).

so even if i dont turn the vtec on are the fuel and timing changes still going to occur when the computer wants em to?

con 10-07-2005 09:58 PM

Re: fuck HT: any ideas for a VTEC switch?
 
I cant believe honda tech made fun of you ::)

boosted_hatch_216 10-07-2005 10:10 PM

Re: fuck HT: any ideas for a VTEC switch?
 
yes the timing and changes will occour if you have a vtec map or ecu or whatever. explain your setup and im sure we could help you alot better, oh and this should probably be in tech. O0

hotrex 10-07-2005 10:14 PM

Re: fuck HT: any ideas for a VTEC switch?
 
to activate vtec do these 2 steps.

1. locate 6 ft of heavy quality nylon rope.
2. tie rope around your neck
3. hang your ----------ing self, for ever contemplating activating vtec with a rocker switch.

godamn son, you are a faggiot

Tatakai 10-07-2005 10:22 PM

Re: fuck HT: any ideas for a VTEC switch?
 

Originally Posted by boosted_hatch_216
vtec doesnt mean ---- unless you have your ---- tuned for vtec. and yes the timing and changes will occour if you have a vtec map or ecu or whatever. explain your setup and im sure we could help you alot better, oh and this should probably be in tech. O0

custom crower cams. vtec @ 6700, redline @ 9500
OBD-1 B18C1 w/ virgin P72 ECU

bank account: $0.53. hello CCA intercooler 8)

boosted_hatch_216 10-07-2005 10:24 PM

Re: fuck HT: any ideas for a VTEC switch?
 

Originally Posted by Tatakai

Originally Posted by boosted_hatch_216
vtec doesnt mean ---- unless you have your ---- tuned for vtec. and yes the timing and changes will occour if you have a vtec map or ecu or whatever. explain your setup and im sure we could help you alot better, oh and this should probably be in tech. O0

custom crower cams. vtec @ 6700, redline @ 9500
OBD-1 B18C1 w/ virgin P72 ECU

bank account: $0.53. hello CCA intercooler 8)

vtec at 6700 is stock on that ecu or you want vtec to kickin at 6700, your gonna have to chip your ecu to do that, and do you want your redline to be at 9500?

solfly 10-07-2005 10:29 PM

Re: fuck HT: any ideas for a VTEC switch?
 
if you unhook the vtec pressure switch then the comp wont turn on vtec

if you get a switch with 1 input and 2 outputs and feed 12v to the solenoid and 12v to the pressure swith input on the ecu that should swap your cams over and activate the fuel/ignition part of vtec as well

you really should chip the ecu though


actuall im not sure if the pressuer switch sends 12v to the ecu or just like 5v

check first

Tatakai 10-07-2005 10:49 PM

Re: fuck HT: any ideas for a VTEC switch?
 
i've been meaning to tune. im just broke as hell and its fine as a daily driver. just sucks whenever someone wants to race from a roll I can't show em much of a race. and i actually got to borrow a buddy of mine's VTEC controller last time I went to the track. managed to get a 14.7 out of 2 runs, and without it best i got was a 15.6 =\

how does VTEC engage? (i know how it works, duh)
ECU signals the solenoid, then the solenoid signals the ECU for different map/timing? cuz then I would only need to switch the solenoid wire. why would i need to have another for the pressure switch?

nitrofish420 10-07-2005 10:56 PM

Re: fuck HT: any ideas for a VTEC switch?
 
The pressure switch is a safety feature. If there isn't enough oil pressure, the ECU won't command VTEC. The computer switches to it's different timing/fuel maps when it commands VTEC.

HMTguy 10-07-2005 10:57 PM

Re: fuck HT: any ideas for a VTEC switch?
 
vtec works like this

You hit the predetermined rpm
ecu is like vtak bitch
sends power to the vtec solenoid, while at the same time switching to the high cam fuel and ignition maps

Given you have to be over 20 mph, coolant warmed up, and have sufficient oil pressure for all of this to happen.

You do NOT want to activate vtec with a switch, because you will still be running the low cam fuel and ignition maps.

Tatakai 10-07-2005 11:26 PM

Re: fuck HT: any ideas for a VTEC switch?
 

Originally Posted by jagojon3
vtec works like this

You hit the predetermined rpm
ecu is like vtak bitch
sends power to the vtec solenoid, while at the same time switching to the high cam fuel and ignition maps

Given you have to be over 20 mph, coolant warmed up, and have sufficient oil pressure for all of this to happen.

You do NOT want to activate vtec with a switch, because you will still be running the low cam fuel and ignition maps.

well, i would figure at 4.4 it would be like "wtf no vroom vroom?" and throw a code, but wouldn't it still try to engage vtec? as in, hit the switch, vtec engages, ecu is like "yay vtak" and switches the maps? why wouldn't they maps switch over once the vtak worked?

HMTguy 10-07-2005 11:55 PM

Re: fuck HT: any ideas for a VTEC switch?
 
Because the maps are controlled by the ecu.

You can activate the vtec solenoid by bypassing the ecu, but to actually change the maps you have to chip the ecu.

fork 10-08-2005 03:42 AM

Re: fuck HT: any ideas for a VTEC switch?
 
dude what do tyou need a switch fo, just leave th vtecness on all the time its l get yoy more pover

AgentMurdoc 10-08-2005 03:53 AM

Re: fuck HT: any ideas for a VTEC switch?
 
you should just hook it up to a tach's shiftlight.

jinxy 10-08-2005 08:09 AM

Re: fuck HT: any ideas for a VTEC switch?
 
<hmt tech>just chip your ecu :P</hmt tech>

nitrofish420 10-08-2005 09:33 AM

Re: fuck HT: any ideas for a VTEC switch?
 

Originally Posted by Tatakai

well, i would figure at 4.4 it would be like "wtf no vroom vroom?" and throw a code, but wouldn't it still try to engage vtec? as in, hit the switch, vtec engages, ecu is like "yay vtak" and switches the maps? why wouldn't they maps switch over once the vtak worked?

The ECU doesn't have any way of knowing VTEC is engaged unless it actually does the engaging.

87na_rx7 10-08-2005 11:43 AM

Re: fuck HT: any ideas for a VTEC switch?
 
since when are chipped ecu's alot? i sell you a chipped p28 for 95 shipped

HMTguy 10-08-2005 11:50 AM

Re: fuck HT: any ideas for a VTEC switch?
 

Originally Posted by Rx7toCivic
since when are chipped ecu's alot? i sell you a chipped p28 for 95 shipped

Now that's an offer you shouldn't pass up

Tatakai 10-08-2005 12:34 PM

Re: fuck HT: any ideas for a VTEC switch?
 

Originally Posted by Rx7toCivic
since when are chipped ecu's alot? i sell you a chipped p28 for 95 shipped

i have a p28 (running p72)
i have a re-burnable chip
:-*

i do not have a soldering gun
i do not have a chip burner
i do not have a wideband
:'(

i also do not have $95 lol

jinxy 10-08-2005 12:37 PM

Re: fuck HT: any ideas for a VTEC switch?
 

Originally Posted by Tatakai

Originally Posted by Rx7toCivic
since when are chipped ecu's alot? i sell you a chipped p28 for 95 shipped

i have a p28 (running p72)
i have a re-burnable chip
:-*

i do not have a soldering gun
i do not have a chip burner
i do not have a wideband
:'(

i also do not have $95 lol

if its chiped with a zif socket you dont need a soldering gun, you just pull the chip out burn a new map and pop the bitch back in. someone on here could burn a chip for you.


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