Forced induction vs naturally aspirated
 

lol, anyone wanna help me out. Im doin a report for school and i am comparing forced indutcion vehicles vs n/a vehicles. Any of you guys have some good info about the advantages and disavantages of both i might of forgot lol. Its 5 pages long and i did about 4 1/2 so i need some more bullshit to talk about lol.

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School sucks drop out and do drugs :y

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make the line spacing a little bigger. there is your 5 pages

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lol i would but this is my senior paper and if i dont do it exactly the way they want it i fail and dont get to graduate lol.

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definately, I did that all the time^ they required it be double spaced and 12 font, take a few lines and make them 14 font in each paragraph in different places. but just say that na rhymes with gay for a reason and that the only engine that makes good power for cheap na is a big displacement one. Plus fuel economy and power can both be had with a good sized turbo.

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yea i always cheat by making it 2.5 spacing instead of just double

uhh aren't NA motors more stable/reliable?

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im not 100% sure on this but

i would think n/a motors are easier to tune and more reliable

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use that report where the kid cited tubgirl.com in his Citation pages as an example report

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you can also made the front instead of 12... 12.5 :)

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add a couple paragraphs bout hmt :P

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you can also make the edges around the paper bigger :y

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N/A, less working parts, less chance for failure, also good chance to be slow.
Boost, best thing that ever came to man.
Amen

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not always :)

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n/a is lots of fun if done right :) if you've rode in a nice all motor car that actually makes power (not just a gsr or b16 with i/h/e), you can appreciate it. it's a totally different power band and feels awesome. why you think i sold all my turbo stuff ;D

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To everyone telling him to cheat on font size, line spacing etc. Think about this for a second. He's not the only one writing a paper I'm sure. When he hands it in it's going to go into a large stack of identical papers, except his would then be slightly different spacing, font, etc. If the teacher grading it gives a ---- about the format they required, it becomes obvious you needed to grow the content of your paper and took the easy way out.

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i've never been caught, and im a senior in HS. been doin it for 4+ years :8

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use courier new, each charicter in that font takes up equal space. it will ad about 3/4ths of a page :y

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hardly, I've drove a few 200+ whp na hondas, ya if geared right it can kinda be fun, especially if you do lots of street racing. But the pure pull/torque of a nicely done turbo honda engine is way more fun, especially just cruising around. A nice 350+whp civic/crx is one of the funniest things to drive on the street.

And you sold your turbo stuff because your either A) bored of it, B) tired of spending money C) you are tired of blowing ring lands.

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i would have to say 'a' seing as how i'm spending 3 times as much by going n/a than i did on my turbo kit and built engine put together. i'll build another turbo motor, but yeah, i am bored with it for now, so i'm trying something new. still all motor feels great in my opinion.

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did you recently drive an all motor car kevin? was it an SI like yours?

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Check this paper out as a guide.
http://forums.gameinformer.com/gi/bo...sage.id=415305

Did you talk about how how you can efficently make more power w/turbo? You could talk about turbo'd small displacment engines in europe.
A downside would be replacement cost to the average car driver having a dealership do the work.

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i dont see why people try to make NA cars in such a heavy chassis.

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I'm with you on that. I spent just under 4k on my motor and I will probably make 180ish whp lol. It's what I get for going oem honda with most of my parts. But I'm sure i'll love it (:

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If I had to pick between a NA motor and a Turbo motor, I would have to concider what kind of car it would be. If it was a dedicated drag car, I would rather have a car that was turbocharged. If I were to be doing any type of autox or road race, I would want the NA motor... either that or a turbo that spooled down low and could breathe enough to give me an advantage up top.

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i've ridden in quite a few powerful all motor cars. what convinced me was a completely stock h22 in a coupe just like mine. hell, i'm gonna throw in a stock motor, get an rmf header, some type s cams and tune the bitch and it will be good for 215whp. 215whp all motor feels just as good as 250 whp turbo. not to mention, this is basically a stock set up with no worries what so ever. i'll be building a turbo race car next year, or maybe even slap a turbo on the h22 after a while. i just want to try something different for a while

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turbo = replacement for displacement under certain condiction.
:l

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that paper is ------- hilarious

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too bad you'll need racegas daily :S

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im with snafu, turbos are good in certain conditions, although a buddy of mine in phoenix a CL (yeah i know its heavy) with an h22 fully built putting out 450 at the wheels right now (still has alot more to go, only runnng 1 bar gonna be at 3 bar when hes done) and at the moment one of there other buddies has a civic hatch with and ls vtec putting down 230 at the wheels and he can easily keep up with the CL up to 100mph after that its all over. i know power to weight has a lot to do with it but you get my drift.


and as for turbos they can be very effecient for gas mileage and for towing and many other fields of motor sports like rock crawlers and long travel buggies and so forth. they use them in just about every longtravel buggie out there so they must be doing something right.

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Who they hell are your teachers. I almost never write the amount asked its called content. Um all motor is faster on the street 200 whp all motor will always take a 200 whp turbo car on street tires. All motor is for rich people. Reliabilty of an agressive all motor build is not meant for the streets

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ummmm, no ::)

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racegas for a stock h22 with bolt ons :3 . h22's are a good swap i dont know why people dont do it more often. costs the same as doing a gsr swap probably less. my buddies h22 made almost 200 whp with bolt ons and cams tuning with a vafc :S

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exactly, with a GOOD header (rmf, smsp), nice exhaust and tuning, you can get 200whp fairly easily. slap some cams in, and get 215-220whp. and have a basically stock, reliable as hell set up that will run 12's. and yeah, they don't cost much more than a b16 swap really. with the full swap, lsd tranny, hcp mounts, axles, new clutch specialties clutch, lightened flywheel, rmf header, i'm only spending about 4k, that's about the same as a full gsr swap with a few extra goodies.

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exactly. The only bad thing is its going to be more a pain in the ass putting that engine in my civic than a b16. I think thats the only reason why people stir from swapping h22 in their civcs.

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the only thing that isn't bolt up really is swapping to the cable shifter for the tranny. i was going to run the h2b tranny conversion to keep my b16 tranny, but that fucker cost about 1500 bucks just for the adapter kit :-[ maybe next summer.

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My brother has an h22 eg coupe, pretty fun car to drive for being totally stock and NA.

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ive heard that with the h22's that theyre really heavy for autox and track stuff.

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they've been weighed and compared, they're only 60 lbs heavier than a b series, so if you have a turbo kit on your b, they're pretty much equal weight.

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I'd swap an h22 into my civic but don't want to bother with the auto-->manual conversion

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NA is simple. FI gives balls to whatever. (Turbo prop planes, turbo diesal trucks, trains, yada yada yada)