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ibassez 05-07-2005 01:25 AM

fighting style anyone fight???
 
ok so im not a ----- but i aint no super big body builder or expericened fighter. im 6'2 little over 200 pounds. muscle and fat. i do work out but i dont roid or anything . we all know size doesnt matter. if anyone watchs ufc they remember royce gracie. 170 pound guy would beat up guys 270 250 ken shamrock 220. im 20 so im not really that busy . This tuesday i might be signing up to Brazilain Ju Jitsu . which is locks, takedowns, chokes, trips etc everything but striking. they say brazilain ju jitsu is the most effected style of fighting. theres no little kids in the class or anything this isnt karate. little kids want to do spin kicks and ---- this is ground fighting. take the guy down and technique takes it. anyone do anything like this before . or have any comments i still didnt sign up but its $150 a month and thats a lot. so i need some feedback on this .

ToeJam 05-07-2005 01:31 AM

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I used to work with some UFC guys and they are all about Brazilain Ju Jitsu. 99.9% of fights end up on the ground anyways. If you only learn to strike, then it is completely useless once they get you down.

Xgenturbo 05-07-2005 01:40 AM

Re: fighting style anyone fight???
 
This stuff is good, I used to do several types of martial arts, I did JKA style shotokan karate for a bit but it wasnt for me, we were taught kicks and punches and katas and useless ---- that would never help in a fight, I mean striking helps sometimes but like you said, 99% of fights end up on the ground.

I would either take Brazilian Jiu Jitsu or eikido(sp) I like the idea of using the opponents mass and striking force against him, all in all it would be a good idea to know 2 or 3 styles of martial arts, get the best of everything behind your belt, but who has time for that, I say go for it, but at the same time buy some books on kick boxing and practice striking with your legs, elbows, palms of your hands and fists, nothing beats a guy coming at you and all you do is move in with one fluid move with an elbow to his face and he's DOWN for good.

hotrex 05-07-2005 01:52 AM

Re: fighting style anyone fight???
 
i usually will hit someone from behind, after i pretend to have settled the problem

Xgenturbo 05-07-2005 01:54 AM

Re: fighting style anyone fight???
 

Originally Posted by hotrex
i usually will hit someone from behind, after i pretend to have settled the problem

LMAO, why not hit them before the problem is solved?

ibassez 05-07-2005 01:54 AM

Re: fighting style anyone fight???
 

Originally Posted by hotrex
i usually will hit someone from behind, after i pretend to have settled the problem

from behind you could do a lot of bad things choke stab but a fair fight

ToeJam 05-07-2005 02:03 AM

Re: fighting style anyone fight???
 
I do kick boxing right now, but I am thinking about going to BJJ. Where do you live? I can't find a place in my area that does BJJ- at least not with a qualified instructor. This site has a list of instructor lineage. Chances are if their is a Gracie anywhere up the list of your instructors lineage, he is the real deal. Too many places have people who claim to know what they are doing and that is a good way to learn how to get your ass kicked.


You could try looking here for help.

ibassez 05-07-2005 02:04 AM

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its still nuts that a small guy like royce graice 170pounds has skill to take 250 pound k-1 kickboxer kimo in a no holds bar match
kimo
http://www.pimpit.com/graphix/kimo.jpg
http://www.ufcfightnews.com/ufc48/im...20-%20Kimo.jpg
http://www.fcfighter.com/PICTURES/UFC36/kimo.jpg
royce gracie
http://nc.roycegracie.tv/images/royce_gracie/royce.gif

http://www.pridefc.com/daily/2002/08/020817_p2.jpg

http://www.gracieva.com/web%20ready%...ctor_royce.jpg





FURACERMAN 05-07-2005 02:06 AM

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I want to get into something like that too. Alot of guys here are into UFC, and BJJ is real popular with them. One thing I can suggest is to be in good shape before you start training. I'm 6'3" 235#, right now I'm just too slow to be competitive with even the new guys. BTW wrestling is good too.

Xgenturbo 05-07-2005 02:07 AM

Re: fighting style anyone fight???
 
Holly ----, I weigh 190 about and am 6'0", this guy must be pretty fast with good technique.

hotrex 05-07-2005 02:08 AM

Re: fighting style anyone fight???
 

Originally Posted by ibassez

Originally Posted by hotrex
i usually will hit someone from behind, after i pretend to have settled the problem

from behind you could do a lot of bad things choke stab but a fair fight

obviously youve never faught... there is no such thing as a fair fight, i pretend like i dont want to fight, then as soon as the kid either reache4s to shake my hand or turns around, its a haymaker to the dome, and then i try to knee the person in the face.

if hes down ill boot him in the nose or jaw.

ibassez 05-07-2005 02:10 AM

Re: fighting style anyone fight???
 

Originally Posted by FURACERMAN
I want to get into something like that too. Alot of guys here are into UFC, and BJJ is real popular with them. One thing I can suggest is to be in good shape before you start training. I'm 6'3" 235#, right now I'm just too slow to be competitive with even the new guys. BTW wrestling is good too.

i go to the gym 4 5 times a week i streetboard snowboard im not super fit but i would say im in ok shape to do this

FURACERMAN 05-07-2005 02:11 AM

Re: fighting style anyone fight???
 
Over here they don't turn their back on you. You have to either avoid it, or be ready to throw down face to face.

ToeJam 05-07-2005 02:13 AM

Re: fighting style anyone fight???
 
Do you want to learn the art or do you mostly just want to fight?

ibassez 05-07-2005 02:16 AM

Re: fighting style anyone fight???
 

Originally Posted by hotrex

Originally Posted by ibassez

Originally Posted by hotrex
i usually will hit someone from behind, after i pretend to have settled the problem

from behind you could do a lot of bad things choke stab but a fair fight

obviously youve never faught... there is no such thing as a fair fight, i pretend like i dont want to fight, then as soon as the kid either reache4s to shake my hand or turns around, its a haymaker to the dome, and then i try to knee the person in the face.

if hes down ill boot him in the nose or jaw.

i have fought before but fights do get crazy sometimes they are controled fights with friends making sure no people jump in sometimes it does get crazy but no matter how good you are 2 on 1 is 2 on 1 . but when its not controled like if someone is trying to rob you or something i would fight dirty i would choke till that guy was out

ibassez 05-07-2005 02:20 AM

Re: fighting style anyone fight???
 

Originally Posted by ToeJam
Do you want to learn the art or do you mostly just want to fight?

both i want to learn the art to protect myself i dont really plan on doing tournments or anything mabey some small ones dont plan on tryin in the ufc. and i also want to learn to fight not to start fights cause im smart im not like that but sometimes you just have to.

hotrex 05-07-2005 02:23 AM

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ive seen pictures, ibassez, you might consider a gun :P

Reddy 05-07-2005 02:30 AM

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The only way to win a fight: Ground and Pound

R-MAK 05-07-2005 02:41 AM

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i always swing first, and have some deadly throws, also im just the biggest nigga outta my crew.

ShitBoxCivic 05-07-2005 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Travis
i always swing first, and have some deadly throws, also im just the biggest nigga outta my crew.

\


thats not sayin much :P

Perfek360 05-07-2005 02:58 AM

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i have a friend who is a second degree black belt in tae kwon do....i've seen how he trains and its pretty damn hard core. My buddy even tried out for team USA for that past summer olympics and juss missed making the team by two spots. He made a video of him in tournaments and show him knocking guys out with one blow and its a ------ sweet move but very illigal in competition...lolz....its kinda funny cause in each scene you see him gettin cheap shot by the guy he's sparin with and then you see him fake a front punch and then procende to do a spining back hand and knock the guy out...he's amazinly fast...and he's small too, but deffinatly wouldn't want to ---- with him. he has told me tho that he has mixed like 3 martial arts styles into one when he goes to tournaments, so maybe thats why he gets DQ'd so much when he spars...lolz...i really don't know were i was going with this, but yeah go with the BJJ and then get something in there that has to do with striking so you can also stun your attacker before you get to the ground...the more styles you learn the better in my eye

FURACERMAN 05-07-2005 03:26 AM

Re: fighting style anyone fight???
 
My sister's BF wrestled, and took nationals for judo when he was in high school. I know he's done more. He's about 5'6", maybe 125# and I won't even spar with him when he's drunk off his ass. I saw him take out a guy literally twice his size (weight). I know a bunch of other guys who are shrimps, but can roll with the best of them.

hotrex 05-07-2005 03:32 AM

Re: fighting style anyone fight???
 
whitey knows how we get dirty, martial arts falls along the same lines as playing the flute in the school band. all the cool kids are out breakin face backwoods negro style, while your in a room makin weird noises with a stupid uniform on.

10 bucks says any of these "martial arts ------" would ---- their pants and forget all there stupid moves when bubba who is 6'7 and 345 comes at them with a broken off pool stick...


Dr.Boost 05-07-2005 04:58 AM

Re: fighting style anyone fight???
 
I carry a firewarm 99% of the time. I'll try to avid a conflict, but if one occurs it better be 1on1 or I'm legally obvligated to plant a couple moon shadows into someone,
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GenLx 05-07-2005 05:06 AM

Re: fighting style anyone fight???
 
i'm taking tae kwon do, a lot of the things i learn are disabling moves, how to put your opponent down as efficiently as possible. fun stuff, cant wait to get into more advanced stuff. but yeah, i guess i'm focusing more on ending the fight before it gets to the ground in one or two hits

SpankedYA! 05-07-2005 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by 5thGenLx
i'm taking tae kwon do, a lot of the things i learn are disabling moves, how to put your opponent down as efficiently as possible. fun stuff, cant wait to get into more advanced stuff. but yeah, i guess i'm focusing more on ending the fight before it gets to the ground in one or two hits

If you talk to most martial arts guys, they will tell you Tae Kwon Do is mostly dancing. My buddy is a Jeet Kun Do (sp) instructor and ------- owns anyone. You also may want to look into Goshen Ju jitsu. Take downs, grappling, throws, and some strikes. Seems like a good balance.

amh0001 05-07-2005 05:45 AM

Re: fighting style anyone fight???
 
Ive done a little bit of Muai Thai (Thai kick boxing) which emphasizes on punches, kicks, knees and elbows. the knees and elbows can be very powerfull, I once saw a fight video where a BJJ guy took on a Muai Thai fighter, the BJJ tried to take him down and ended up taking a Knee to the face. = KO. But I think if they BJJ would have got him down he would have one NP. I also have a friend who is doing Isreal street fighiting. I honestly think its the best ive seen for self defense in street fighting. It is dirty fighting because its fighting for your life. It will show you what to do when someone per say punches at your face, or tries to grab or choke you from behind to end the fight in a few seconds. It involves punching, grappling, breaking ankles, fingers, necks, pressure points etc, and how to get into the advantage position when being attacked. There is video ive seen of this its pretty awesome, shouldnt be too hard to find.

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ibassez 05-07-2005 07:48 AM

Re: fighting style anyone fight???
 

Originally Posted by hotrex
ive seen pictures, ibassez, you might consider a gun :P

scroll up and look at those pictures of kimo and royce then go download the fight and watch

dragon 05-07-2005 08:39 AM

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I've been fighting all my life. My father taught me how to fight from boxing, akido, jeet kun do, wrestling, you name it. One of the many reason why my name is BlackDragon. ;)

Size really dont matter. I have thrown many guys around twice my size. Im only 5'9 195-200. But if your strong you'll be alright.

prelude9384 05-07-2005 09:32 AM

Re: fighting style anyone fight???
 

Originally Posted by hotrex

Originally Posted by ibassez

Originally Posted by hotrex
i usually will hit someone from behind, after i pretend to have settled the problem

from behind you could do a lot of bad things choke stab but a fair fight

obviously youve never faught... there is no such thing as a fair fight, i pretend like i dont want to fight, then as soon as the kid either reache4s to shake my hand or turns around, its a haymaker to the dome, and then i try to knee the person in the face.

if hes down ill boot him in the nose or jaw.

No ----, everything in a fight is fair. I'll do anything I need to win. But I believe in the pre-emptive attack, once a guy says something about beating my ass. Knock the crap out of him right away. People don't usually expect it since everybody tends to talk ---- for a good five minutes before anything ever really happens. After that, don't stop beating the crap out of him until you had enough.

mattnteclipse 05-07-2005 09:35 AM

Re: fighting style anyone fight???
 
Im taking boxing this summer and maybe ju jitsu this summer. be good enough at striking it doesnt get to the ground or make sure your damn good on the ground. Most people dont really know how to fight,your average ------- downt he bar who wants to talk ----.

Dibble 05-07-2005 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by hotrex
i usually will hit someone from behind, after i pretend to have settled the problem

8)

Im 6,1 and weigh 130lbs. Im not above snicking someone.

all8280bcc 05-07-2005 01:52 PM

Re: fighting style anyone fight???
 
I practice muay tai(sp ?) been doin it since i was 12 im 19 now. Im 5'5 145 lbs and ill take on anyone here.

mycrx 05-07-2005 01:56 PM

Re: fighting style anyone fight???
 

Originally Posted by hotrex

Originally Posted by ibassez

Originally Posted by hotrex
i usually will hit someone from behind, after i pretend to have settled the problem

from behind you could do a lot of bad things choke stab but a fair fight

obviously youve never faught... there is no such thing as a fair fight, i pretend like i dont want to fight, then as soon as the kid either reache4s to shake my hand or turns around, its a haymaker to the dome, and then i try to knee the person in the face.

if hes down ill boot him in the nose or jaw.

hahahah ------ hotrex your ---- just cracks me up everytime i read it, ahha a ------ haymaker to the dome, now thats comedy lol.

d16forlife 05-07-2005 02:50 PM

Re: fighting style anyone fight???
 
I dont like to fight.Thats why I cary peper spray and a 9mm to back it up. :)

Dr.Boost 05-07-2005 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by d16forlife
I dont like to fight.Thats why I cary peper spray and a 9mm to back it up. :)

Bahahaha, pepper spray. :-X The funny thing is in most cases pepper spray is more painful than being shot.
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R-MAK 05-07-2005 03:48 PM

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man, you guys are a bunch of small fucks. i think me and hotsex are the biggest. im 6'4, 250lbs.

quicksilvia 05-07-2005 03:53 PM

Re: fighting style anyone fight???
 
after lacrosse is done (a couple more weeks) i want to pick up a martial arts forum. whats the most realistic and is there a site with a locator thing.... the gracie family is nuts....

How good of shape shouldyou be in before starting?

FURACERMAN 05-07-2005 05:49 PM

Re: fighting style anyone fight???
 
Travis, I'm pulling the motor in my car, and I don't have a lift...you bi fucker. Heh

ibassez 05-07-2005 06:20 PM

Re: fighting style anyone fight???
 
ok ---- it im just going to buy a gun ;D


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