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bitchasscracker 04-22-2008 11:24 PM

electric sports car
 
if it is a repost suck my cock

http://www.teslamotors.com/

igotnothin 04-23-2008 12:09 AM

Re: electric sports car
 
thats cool and all, and you save good on gass, but it cost more than id pay for something that i cant make faster

But ya gota give them credit for trying O0

stillnoturbo 04-23-2008 12:13 AM

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There's a guy on hybridz.org that is doing an all electric 240. It's pretty cool.
http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread.php?t=132837

Loserkidwac 04-23-2008 12:14 AM

Re: electric sports car
 

2009 Roadster base price: $109,000

lol that ---- is gonna burn to the ground in a big flaming electrical fire before it saves you enough in gas to justify that cost :S

J-SMITH69 04-23-2008 12:37 AM

Re: electric sports car
 
plus the fact that it takes all the fun out of cars, which is modifying them

igotnothin 04-23-2008 12:58 AM

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I wonder what kind of a soundsystem you could power with that car,,,, wonder if it could handle 20,000 watts going to some subs????

MR_T 04-23-2008 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by random-strike
plus the fact that it takes all the fun out of cars, which is modifying them

who says you cant mod an electric car?

idiot-stick 04-23-2008 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bitchasscracker
if it is a repost suck my cock

http://www.teslamotors.com/

holy ---- have you been living under a rock? :P

J-SMITH69 04-23-2008 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MR_T
who says you cant mod an electric car?


you drive a honda, and turbocharge it with junkyard parts. do you really think you can afford to modify an electric car?

Chris Harris 04-23-2008 02:21 PM

Re: electric sports car
 

Originally Posted by random-strike
plus the fact that it takes all the fun out of cars, which is modifying them

Yeah, instant torque sucks...who would want that.

fork 04-23-2008 03:21 PM

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An electric motor will make as much torque as the current you can put in it, to a point. Or until it overheats. So the limiting factor is usually the batteries and controllers. Adding batteries is easy. You can push the controllers if you can keep them cooler, you just have to know how to program them if thats possible.

jeffescortlx 04-23-2008 03:49 PM

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I'd seriously consider an electric car at this point... If they where in the same price range as 1995 Civic.
Some sort of a back up generator would be nice though.
I would'nt mind plugging in a car every night, guess the cost is only 1-2 cents per mile.

J-SMITH69 04-23-2008 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by xenocron
Yeah, instant torque sucks...who would want that.

apparently people with turbo hondas

Jorsher 04-23-2008 04:02 PM

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Haha, bitchass, this has been "in the news" for well over a year now. It's pretty damn quick. Especially for only having a 1 or 2 speed transmission. There's companies that already sell electric motors for people wanting to do conversions, saw one that was 250tq from 0rpm all the way past 10k, then it starts to drop off. There are forums of people doing electric conversions too. One group did an electric conversion in an atom.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKBVEDJYnro <- electric cars really suck :1

Right now they aren't affordable. They can be modified, but it also isn't very affordable.

In a decade or two I'm sure they'll be in the "affordable" range. The motors aren't the costly factor right now, it's the batteries. Lithium Ion and Lithium Polymer batteries are still pretty damn expensive, but I'm sure the price will keep dropping as they're used in more and more things.

I admit, I prefer the nice loud gas engine, but I'm still looking forward to when electric ---- takes over. USA is looking at passing regulations for minimum sound levels on electric vehicles, because they're too quiet and thus unsafe to pedestrians :P

jeffescortlx 04-23-2008 04:13 PM

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Here's my Electric Honda.
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...3_159_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...3_160_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...3_161_full.jpg
Ok well it uses a Honda Civc starter motor any ways. And oh yes, it has instant tourq. It left a 2ft patch of rubber on my garage floor.

J-SMITH69 04-23-2008 04:17 PM

Re: electric sports car
 
wow an electric go kart beat two slow cars. amazing!!!! :1

and barely i might at

HMTguy 04-23-2008 04:18 PM

Re: electric sports car
 
George Bush doesn't care about black people.

J-SMITH69 04-23-2008 04:18 PM

Re: electric sports car
 
they don't show the GT going over the finish line because it probably passed that worthless go kart

Bone1 04-23-2008 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffescortlx
Here's my Electric Honda.
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...3_159_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...3_160_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...3_161_full.jpg
Ok well it uses a Honda Civc starter motor any ways. And oh yes, it has instant tourq. It left a 2ft patch of rubber on my garage floor.

I see Henry Ford's greatest invention in the background of the second pic.

HMTguy 04-23-2008 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mista Bone
I see Henry Ford's greatest invention in the background of the second pic.

I ------ love charcoal grilling too.

J-SMITH69 04-23-2008 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jagojon3
I ------ love charcoal grilling too.

http://www.dragcityvideos.com/images/hankhill_mad.jpg

J-SMITH69 04-23-2008 04:29 PM

Re: electric sports car
 

Originally Posted by jeffescortlx
Here's my Electric Honda.
Ok well it uses a Honda Civc starter motor any ways. And oh yes, it has instant tourq. It left a 2ft patch of rubber on my garage floor.

cool idea, i might try that sometime.

i wonder if it will burn out the start holding it open all the time?

i assume it will

jeffescortlx 04-23-2008 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by random-strike
cool idea, i might try that sometime.

i wonder if it will burn out the start holding it open all the time?

i assume it will

There are a few tricks to keeping the motor cool. Using a Honda starter motor like this is no new idea, electric barstool racing have been doing it for years. I've drilled holes in the case on both sides of the armature, and will soon add a fan to the back of it to pull air over it. You'd be surprised how well they can take it. The battery runs down before it can even get hot.

J-SMITH69 04-23-2008 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffescortlx
There are a few tricks to keeping the motor cool. Using a Honda starter motor like this is no new idea, electric barstool racing have been doing it for years. I've drilled holes in the case on both sides of the armature, and will soon add a fan to the back of it to pull air over it. You'd be surprised how well they can take it. The battery runs down before it can even get hot.

cool

have you thought about trying a bigger starter? something made for a small block chevy or anyother bigger motor

Jorsher 04-23-2008 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by random-strike
wow an electric go kart beat two slow cars. amazing!!!! :1

and barely i might at

:1 :1 :1

Yeah I know its nothing compared to your car that gets 60+ mpg. We all know there is nothing in the world better than LSx, and there never will be. ESPECIALLY not a nearly 100% efficient engine that hasn't had hardly as much R&D put into it as gas combustion.

You're preaching to the choir

jeffescortlx 04-23-2008 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by random-strike
have you thought about trying a bigger starter? something made for a small block chevy or anyother bigger motor

Ford, Chevy and Dodge starters only have 2 armature bearings, and the outside one is on the wrong side of the output shaft, making it next to impossible to putting a sproket & chain on them.

This little stater has plenty of power. Has more tourq then any 5hp go-kart I have ever ridden. This will make the front tires leave the ground on take-off. But tops out at about 12-15mph, a 2 speed tranny would be tits... or 24v.

Jorsher 04-23-2008 05:46 PM

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How long does it last?

J-SMITH69 04-23-2008 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Jorsher


:1 :1 :1

Yeah I know its nothing compared to your car that gets 60+ mpg. We all know there is nothing in the world better than LSx, and there never will be. ESPECIALLY not a nearly 100% efficient engine that hasn't had hardly as much R&D put into it as gas combustion.

You're preaching to the choir

you are a moron.

electric motors have been around forever, and some are very big.

the electricity to power that car has to be generated somewhere, most likely by burning coal. so big deal you still gotta destroy the earth

wise up

Jorsher 04-23-2008 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by random-strike
you are a moron.

electric motors have been around forever, and some are very big.

the electric to power that car has to be generated somewhere, most likely by burning coal

wise up

I know they've been around forever, possibly longer than gas combustion, but they've mostly been used for applications other than propelling a car.

I still would place money on electricity being overall more efficient than power, regardless of how it's generated. Around these parts hurre our power is nuke generated, TVA has a few hydro plants, and of course the coal burning ones. One near rome georgia has acres full of trailers of wood around it that it burns :)

Even if it isn't efficient, there are more options for making electricity than there are for powering a fossil fuel based car. And, you can get more mileage for the cost of the power. Here it's $0.07/kWh.

If you want I can post some links for you. I've "wised up."

Gas has it's benefits, like easier to make power at a cheaper initial cost, and more upgrades you can do. However electricity is more efficient (looking at a cost standpoint), all torque almost all the time, quiet, etc

Bottom line is gas won't be around forever, so eventually you're going to have to drive something else.

jeffescortlx 04-23-2008 06:09 PM

Re: electric sports car
 

Originally Posted by Jorsher
How long does it last?

hard to say, I'm using a regular car battery now. So I dont run it till it's dead. If I did it will kill the battery very quickly. But with a regular deep cycle people claim you can get a little over an hour on it with the same motor.

J-SMITH69 04-23-2008 06:48 PM

Re: electric sports car
 
synthetic gasoline

Jorsher 04-23-2008 07:11 PM

Re: electric sports car
 

Originally Posted by random-strike
synthetic gasoline

If you're talking about bio-fuels, those are even less efficient than running an electric plant.

You have to take into consideration the fertilizers (as well as their manufacturing), soil, byproducts, and even then it has low power-to-volume ratio. The amount of farming land it would require to supply the country with enough fuel would be ridiculous as well.

I don't think we'll be forced to switch for a long, long time. But eventually gas won't be a great option.

Personally, if batteries weren't so expensive and electric motors were a little cheaper, I'd build myself an "electric gokart" for my home/work/store commutes since I'm only 5-15 min from wherever I need to go, and it'd cost less in electricity and still be a lot quicker than my slowass CRX.

But for now I'll continue burning dinosaurs

J-SMITH69 04-23-2008 08:01 PM

Re: electric sports car
 
NO

synthetic

biofuels are a joke

Jorsher 04-23-2008 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by random-strike
NO

synthetic

biofuels are a joke

Cool. Just read up on it. Says it currently releases twice as much CO2 as oil based fuels but they're working on tech to help that.

Still. When batteries get cheaper. I'll gladly pick drive an electric for normal commutes. I really doubt synthetic gas will be cheaper than what I can get electricity, since it's coal being processed to a fuel to get burned...instead of just coal gettin burned (or nuclear radiation in my case) and making power. Being that our utility company is also not-for-profit, I really really doubt it'll be cheaper.

They did say there's enough coal to fuel our energy needs for centuries, but that's also at "current levels" which will sure as hell be higher in a decade or two. Wonder how much it costs to make synthetic gas. Probably more expensive now or companies would be making it to compete with gas prices.

J-SMITH69 04-23-2008 10:49 PM

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what are you talking about nuclear radiation getting burned?

a nuclear reactor heats up water turning it into steam to turn turbines to generate electricity

Jorsher 04-23-2008 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by random-strike
what are you talking about nuclear radiation getting burned?

a nuclear reactor heats up water turning it into steam to turn turbines to generate electricity

I said nothing about nuclear radiation getting burned, I know the basics of nuclear power.

I meant coal getting burned (to produce electricity) (or nuclear radiation in my case (to produce electricity))

The following:
mine coal > make coal into fuel > burn fuel > power

will most likely cost more for the amount of power than:
mine coal > burn coal > electricity
nuclear power > electricity

J-SMITH69 04-24-2008 12:44 AM

Re: electric sports car
 
yea

Perfek360 04-24-2008 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by random-strike
plus the fact that it takes all the fun out of cars, which is modifying them

its called a bigger battery ^-^ yeah......lolz

45psi 04-24-2008 12:41 PM

Re: electric sports car
 

Originally Posted by random-strike
NO

synthetic

biofuels are a joke

you are a joke johnny.

J-SMITH69 04-24-2008 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 45psi
you are a joke johnny.

http://www.dragcityvideos.com/images/45psi.JPG


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