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ive been reading about alternative fuels and green ---- for a paper i was doing and came across this, might be a repost but this is the telsa roadster 0-60 in under 4 seconds and 250 miles between charges, what do u guys think electricity is cheap as ---- but why did they make it so ------- ugly
http://www.humanproductivitylab.com/Tesla.jpg

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They could've done worse. And I wouldn't mind an electric car at all :)

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as long as theres gas to burn the electric car is going no where. and when it does take off, the price of electricity will sky rocket.

you can quote me on that.

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electric car = gay. wheres the turbo go

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quoted because you said it was ok

saw this today: http://gizmodo.com/336615/aptera-ele...ular-mechanics

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Except electricity you can personally control the cost of via solar, wind, and water power. The public can keep the electrical companies honest. The same cannot be said about gasoline.

I like electrical cars. I'd like to own one. The main problem comes when you run out of juice. It would be interesting to see hotels and various other people having outdoor electrical where you drop in $5 and get your car charged for an hour. Still doesn't really solve the problem of if I want to drive over 250 miles in one day. I'm sure efficiency will increase, but still even if they double the value to 500 miles that's still limiting. They'd also need to have a full charge be able to be done within a 5-10 hour range.

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electric cars will cause more polution, because we can barely power everything else right now, if all cars went electric... we'd have to build a shitload more plants. and most of the countries power comes from coal

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bring back the nuclear power plants.

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can't, enviro wackos won't let us

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Well I'm looking 50 years from now and if the US keeps on this "we must have cleaner air" path, I see more nuclear, solar, and wind power in the future. Also nuclear power has proven to be more environmentally friendly as time continues. It really isn't the liberals that are against it. Look at countries like France who use nuclear power as it's primary source. It's very clean and efficient. The biggest issue in the last 6 years has been the fact that there are "safety issues" with nuclear power plants. Recently reports have come out that nuclear power plants are safer than most government buildings, but still people are uneasy about nuclear power and terrorism.

The actual pollution stance is circumstantial. If we moved to electric cars and continued to use coal, we'd gain nothing from a clean air aspect. But if I had an electric car, I'd be very very very willing to install solar panels. Right now though, to install solar panels, the pay off is 15 years from now and the panels expected life is 20. It's a hard sell.

I don't say stop making ICEs or hybrids. I'd just like an electric car. I don't drive far. I can control where and how I get my electricity. They have the potential to be fast. Also they minimize air direct air pollution. The current hybrids blow dick because you can't plug them in. What's the point of a car that runs on electricity if I can't recharge the battery while I sleep?

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mark my words.

synthetic gasoline is in our future. not hybrids or electric cars.

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agreed, electric cars have too many limitations, sure you can drive 300 miles when its sunny and 75 outside and then drive home and let your solar panels charge it up while you sleep ( oh wait they need sunlight right) for 5-8 hours, but what about when its 17 degrees outside and snowing and you have to run the heater + defrost+ wipers on your 30 mile trek to the office, and the sun doesn't come out for days at a time.

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See the movie "Who Killed the Electric Car" in your special interests section of the vid store. You'll look at the whole thing from a new perspective. Energy is just another form of currency. People need more energy to have more freedom. Once they attain freedom they become more difficult to control. If we truly cared about becoming independent of foreign oil we'd be there. Look at Europe. They've got these windmill farms making megawatts of power. Strategic implementation of solar would help too.

Not quite. Electric cars are in many cases faster than internal combustion and have tons of torque. There's less moving parts. Less maintenance. It's cleaner to work on. The only thing would be implementing new breakthrough battery technologies to increase range and reduce charge time. Yea for a while distance limitations wouldn't make it a good choice for everybody but a simple commuter would take the ease off of some people's $250+ monthly gas bill.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=BqqtJpfZElQ The narrator sounds kinda gay but near the end the drag races show the end result.

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way to go, go watch <insert left wing socialist propaganda film here> and you'll see how stupid you are.

that movie is full to the brim with bullshit. i really feel sad for the people who believe these "documentaries"

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When solar doesn't work well for you, you buy your power. It's called a grid tied system. It's not that big of a deal for most of the US. If it doesn't work in your geographic location, then don't buy it. I get about 12-36" of snow a year and generally melts a few days after it snows. Solar would work for me. Not to mention most of my power I use is from a nuclear power plant.

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I wasn't really knocking solar power ( i own stock in a company that makes solar panels, lol) I just meant that the electric car has some pretty severe limitations for people that live outside of a big city, and i really don't see them catching on in the united states any more than diesel cars. I agree that nuclear energy is the best solution but since you have the tree huggers and other morons that run and hide at the mention of "terror" and "nuclear" in the same sentence, that tends to hinder progress, even though reactors are ------- pretty much impenetrable (spell?)

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electric cars are for bulldykes and faggots.

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actually check this out, heres something i would buy if i had 40k maybe after i get done with school

it gets 250miles to a carge and 100mph top speed, when you do the math it gets like 130 mpg if gas was $3/gallon, ---- i can live with that and i know there will be people modding it out

i just dont get why they make them look all funky

http://www.evworld.com/images/phoenixSUT_afvi07.jpg

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A massed produced electric car is a great theory and always will bea THEORY. The car aforementioned looks like a lotus with gsr blades... not very original.

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I'm not sure I agree. How many people need to travel over 200 miles in a day? Not very many. Either way, if you need to do 400+miles a day, hybrids still seem like a valid solution for those who live in rural areas. As for nuclear, I doubt that small percentage of morons and tree huggers keep stuff from getting done. End result is someone doesn't think it is in their best interest on a higher level. The past has shown that if big business wants to accomplish something, it takes a good bit of effort against their effort to succeed. Morons and tree huggers definitely don't fit the bill.

Tman, where did that math come from? It makes no sense how you can equate mpg to mile range. The only way to get an accurate assessment if its economically worth using an electric car is to figure out how much the electricity costs to give the battery a full charge and then compare it to what a similar gasoline powered car would do.

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Your right on that GM had a production electric car back in the 90's. They use to have outlets for them in southern california at for example malls etc. They were something that could of caught on but GM held back and got rid of them



A gmc pickup is where they will make there money not a hippie car. Im surprised gm even started a program to develop it.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_EV1

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gm stopped making them because they didn't sell...

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I would just buy because their light weight.
I'd slap a nice motor in one of those 1000lbs cars.
Anyway honda has been testing water powered
cars.You would never really run out of water.
There was a guy that traveled from the east coast
to the west coast on 17 gallons of water.Home made car 2 seater.
Then someone killed him....
So there will never be free non polluting
energy, as long as the controllers
of the U.S. energy can make money
off of it.

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gm would only lease them to people. What you think all the weed smoking liberal master degree holding homo's from california didnt want a electric car?

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:3

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prob because they were still experimental.

because they are phonies and are the first people to drive a 12mpg highway bmw when they get the money

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For the last 5 years, and for the next 15 there is a nuclear boon in the south. Old reactors long shut-down have been, and are being referbed while new ones are being built. Nuclear has room to grow down here, as opposed to msot of the energy that comes from coal fired boilers.


I wouldn't mind an electric car at all... Unfortunately it's not a viable solution for a primary car because i am prone to random road trips, and drive 90-120 miles every day.

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I read it from somewerre about the phenix EV suv website, i'll look up exactly where i think it was the faq's

http://www.phoenixmotorcars.com/ it's a 40k electric truck thats going to be available this year

I think, (dont quote me on this yet i will repost when i find the page) the millage calculation comes from avg ICE car's efficiency/cost of gasoline gives you the miles per dollar compared to miles per charge of electric car/cost per charge from the grid

Electric motors are much more efficient than gasoline because a lot of the energy from ICE's is released as heat, electric motors waste less energy in the form of heat, they are also much more efficient in low speed drive and go traffic, and acceleration from a stop as opposed to ICE's that's why all your hybrid cars use the electric motors for low speed and switch to gasoline at higher speeds

heres an Electric Vehicle from 10 years ago that shows the efficency compared to gasoline

http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/noframes/17328.shtml compare that to the current rav4

and about the pollution I also read somewhere, I'll look for exactly were that electric cars pollute 97% less than ICE cars including the pollution at the power plant

the thing i like the most about EV's is that you can charge it anywhere with an extension cord, also you get total control over what you use to power your car, wind power has been getting cheaper the last few years

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The Simpsons quote: "Hello, i'm an electric car. I don't drive very fast or go very far. And if you drive me, people will think you're GAAAY." ;D :y

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Johnny, do you like any new technology? Are you in support of anything new and innovative? I really don't understand how car enthusiasts don't like a variety of choices and different options. The only vehicles I can say I totally don't care for are SUVs and that's primarily because of the fact that their end users are soccer moms who can't drive worth a damn.

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you're an idiot.

only soccer moms own "suvs"... hmm good one you don't sound like a tree hugging faggot :l

what do you mean by "new technology? if you mean electric cars or hybrids than NO they are ------- gay. i like cars that run on gasoline. if you have an electric car thats fast its still gay. you will become the person who you hate "go out and buy a car thats fast". you can't honestly think you're going to work on and upgrade your sweet hybrid or electric car in your driveway.

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I don't even know why I bother with you. You only choose to read what you want to read. You never think anything through. You are so far sighted that I'm surprised that you are near sighted. I love how your answer to my question, wasn't even answering my question. And whatever attempt to answer my question was "because it's gay". I don't know how you came to think so highly of yourself and your opinions, but when and whatever caused that was a great American tragedy.

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I DON'T WANT A GODDAMN ELECTRIC CAR.

is that good enough?

why are you on this website? you can't turbo an electric car. go to www.hybridrainbow.com/gay/forums if you want to talk about stupid ----.

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ah screw you guys, when/if they come up with a decent design i'll snap one up. turbo? no need, it would be easier to make those things go faster. add on the fact that theres a company who came up with a buck a watt solar panels...

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electricity is sorcery, doesn't exist

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in between the lips of the vagina of whatever guy would drive an electric car

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effeciancy, blah blah blah. electric sucks.

nimh:
Energy/weight 30–80 Wh/kg
Power/weight 250–1000 W/kg
Energy/size 140–300 Wh/L

nicd:
Energy/weight 40–60 Wh/kg
Power/weight 150W/kg
Energy/size 50–150 Wh/L

li-ion:
Energy/weight 160 Wh/kg
Power/weight 1800 W/kg
Energy/size 270 Wh/l

lipo:
Energy/weight 130–200 Wh/kg
Power/weight up to 2800 W/kg
Energy/size 300 Wh/L

gasoline:
Energy/weight 12,700 Wh/kg
Energy/size 8,760 Wh/L

and why lithium cars won't hit the road anytime remotely soon:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OsBc8RqSKU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjAtBiTSsKY

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ya no biggie if you crash or the batteries overheat you just blow up in an inferno. pretty cool