DSM 420a Questions
07-16-2006, 10:59 AM
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DSM 420a Questions
I didnt know if this should of been posted in hybrid so ---- it i posted it here. Mods move if you want i dont care.
Ok, i have a 1999 Eclipse RS 5 spd with the gay *** 420a in it. Ive been trying to rid myself of this vehicle but with much dismay i still have it. now, it runs just fine and it doesnt throw any codes and it just recently hit 77k miles. I want to know about swapping in the 6 bolt 4g63 and after researching it im still ------- confused. all the DSM forums say to sell the car and get a turbo version, or that it cost a ton of money to do. My question is, should i build the 420a or swap in a 6bolt? and if i can swap in the 6 bolt what will it take to make the swap work. I want some damn clarification because even on here people seem to mis-inform others because they just dont know. i have no problem building the 420a because i can get the parts needed from hahn racecraft, but i would like the 4g63. Oh yeah, one more thing. the stock clutch on my car is a combined unit. the pressure plate is pressed onto the flywheel so i have to replace both when the clutch get toasted. ------ mitsubishi. I was wondering if i can use aftermarket or other stock oem parts to change it so the the flywheel and the clutch kit are two sparate pieces. i would sell before boosting but i cant get rid of it. im asking 5600
Ok, i have a 1999 Eclipse RS 5 spd with the gay *** 420a in it. Ive been trying to rid myself of this vehicle but with much dismay i still have it. now, it runs just fine and it doesnt throw any codes and it just recently hit 77k miles. I want to know about swapping in the 6 bolt 4g63 and after researching it im still ------- confused. all the DSM forums say to sell the car and get a turbo version, or that it cost a ton of money to do. My question is, should i build the 420a or swap in a 6bolt? and if i can swap in the 6 bolt what will it take to make the swap work. I want some damn clarification because even on here people seem to mis-inform others because they just dont know. i have no problem building the 420a because i can get the parts needed from hahn racecraft, but i would like the 4g63. Oh yeah, one more thing. the stock clutch on my car is a combined unit. the pressure plate is pressed onto the flywheel so i have to replace both when the clutch get toasted. ------ mitsubishi. I was wondering if i can use aftermarket or other stock oem parts to change it so the the flywheel and the clutch kit are two sparate pieces. i would sell before boosting but i cant get rid of it. im asking 5600
07-16-2006, 11:13 AM
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Re: DSM 420a Questions
like the dsmers say to much of a hassle to swap the turbo motor in just boost the motor it has or buy a turbo. The wiring is ------- rediculous to convert to a turbo 4g63. Quite a few people have turboed 420a's now that actually make very decent numbers and dont crankwalk like there 4g63 bretheren 
As for the clutch im not sure never was very interested in the 420a motor 
As for the clutch im not sure never was very interested in the 420a motor
07-16-2006, 01:59 PM
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Re: DSM 420a Questions
you can get aftermarket clutches that are like yours, and i would thnk you could switch over to a normal one just byusing a new flywheel (i dont think all years of 420's have that style clutch) but im not positive... did you try searching on 2gnt.com or whatever that site is?
07-16-2006, 02:22 PM
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Re: DSM 420a Questions
Originally Posted by Researcher
I didnt know if this should of been posted in hybrid so ---- it i posted it here. Mods move if you want i dont care.
Ok, i have a 1999 Eclipse RS 5 spd with the gay *** 420a in it. Ive been trying to rid myself of this vehicle but with much dismay i still have it. now, it runs just fine and it doesnt throw any codes and it just recently hit 77k miles. I want to know about swapping in the 6 bolt 4g63 and after researching it im still ------- confused. all the DSM forums say to sell the car and get a turbo version, or that it cost a ton of money to do. My question is, should i build the 420a or swap in a 6bolt? and if i can swap in the 6 bolt what will it take to make the swap work. I want some damn clarification because even on here people seem to mis-inform others because they just dont know. i have no problem building the 420a because i can get the parts needed from hahn racecraft, but i would like the 4g63. Oh yeah, one more thing. the stock clutch on my car is a combined unit. the pressure plate is pressed onto the flywheel so i have to replace both when the clutch get toasted. ------ mitsubishi. I was wondering if i can use aftermarket or other stock oem parts to change it so the the flywheel and the clutch kit are two sparate pieces. i would sell before boosting but i cant get rid of it. im asking 5600
Ok, i have a 1999 Eclipse RS 5 spd with the gay *** 420a in it. Ive been trying to rid myself of this vehicle but with much dismay i still have it. now, it runs just fine and it doesnt throw any codes and it just recently hit 77k miles. I want to know about swapping in the 6 bolt 4g63 and after researching it im still ------- confused. all the DSM forums say to sell the car and get a turbo version, or that it cost a ton of money to do. My question is, should i build the 420a or swap in a 6bolt? and if i can swap in the 6 bolt what will it take to make the swap work. I want some damn clarification because even on here people seem to mis-inform others because they just dont know. i have no problem building the 420a because i can get the parts needed from hahn racecraft, but i would like the 4g63. Oh yeah, one more thing. the stock clutch on my car is a combined unit. the pressure plate is pressed onto the flywheel so i have to replace both when the clutch get toasted. ------ mitsubishi. I was wondering if i can use aftermarket or other stock oem parts to change it so the the flywheel and the clutch kit are two sparate pieces. i would sell before boosting but i cant get rid of it. im asking 5600
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07-16-2006, 03:19 PM
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Re: DSM 420a Questions
I would just count your losses and sell it. Those 420a's pop headgaskets like it's their job. My buddy's got a built 420a with the hahn kit and it only layed down 295whp at 18psi. Thats weaksauce if you ask me. Then he popped a headgasket. Not to mention that those platforms are lacking options when it comes to tuning. He was running the Hahn Portfueler setup which is basiclly like a glorified extra injector setup. Before that, an fmu. I guess megasquirt is always an option, but you don't sound like you are very fond of wiring. I say just get rid of it, or drive it like it is.
07-16-2006, 06:53 PM
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Re: DSM 420a Questions
well the headgasket situation i dont think would be a problem i mean if i did turbo it i would probably o-ring the block and use arp hardware. im jsut wonedering if its worth it. all i know is i want somehting faster then my scion is and i have the rs so i figured i should look at my options.
07-16-2006, 07:23 PM
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Re: DSM 420a Questions
yeah im aware im just tired of being so close to boost and then having something jump out in front of me like a deer when im going triple digit speed. thats never happened but ive been robbed of boost about four times now and counting and im ------- tired of it. i wont really be able to do anyhting till i refinance anyways...
07-16-2006, 10:28 PM
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Re: DSM 420a Questions
dunno if that was a jokr or the truth but either case i think an oringed block and arp fasteners should do the trick. looks like the current buyer just backed out. i think ima boost the 420. gona take a little while though. anyone had any problem with the suspension on these cars? or is it like working on a honda.
