diff between vtec and non for fi
 

this may be a newb question, but why do i rarely see turbo'd non vtecs. arent they they same internally?
besides the lil extra hp of the vtec is there a big difference

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because most people grow into a turbo setup. so before they go turbo they want a decent N/A motor and buy a Vtec one. same reason why you don't see too many LS swaps. and have you ever seen an H23 swap?

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not answering yoru question buit I remember seeing some jackass magazine article on some turbod vtec car. they discussed the advantages of vtec, then ran the car on the dyno normal then disconnected the vtec solenoid and ran it.
then the......"oohhhh, vtec is good for 75hp on a turbo'd car" I remember laughing. morons.

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the bigger cam of the vtec is better to flow more air for the turbo. my personal opinion is that if I was building an all out race engine I'd get a non-vtec head and just put bigger cams in.

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They just make more power. Development for them has been x10 compared to non vtec set ups.

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hmmm, is there any difference as far as strength goes , i know stock honda rods are weak all together but is there any difference in a vtec to a non vtec

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all stock honda rods will break.

kyle, you're right, but you do it a different way, you still use the Vtec head, but you use a Vtec delete system, basically it is always on the big lobe (because ther is no little lobe anymore, which is a big mother fucker lobe in that sense

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^^^^^^LOL Bamboo said V-tec.

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I did, what a douche I am, I guess that means its time to go to bed huh? ::)

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arent you better off going with a straight big lobe came but in a vtec head cause they flow better

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Not sure on B engines but with most of the D series the non-VTEC engines DO have thinner/weaker rods such as comparing a D15B7/8(both non-VTEC)to a D16Z6/ZC/D15B(VTEC) etc. Theres also those that will say its easier to tune a non-VTEC motor blah blah but IMHO thats just laziness lol! I have no problem tuning my VTEC engine. It's dyno time that makes it easier to tune VTEC crossover and engaugement(SP?) points :) But overall tunability is really no concern for the daily drivin street car. Yes, a full blown drag car is usualy a non-VTEC setup due to the radical cams you an get or have made. There is no reason to have an economical ride at the strip. Which is partialy why Honda makes VTEC in the first place. Performance AND economy.

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i wouldnt know caus all my cars have been non vtec...shti the 4 door is a boosted non vtec..so i dont know...

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you have a boosted non vtec 4 door? do you mind me asking your setup because i have a 4 door non-vtec that i was thinkin about swappin in a vtec motor just to boost , what internal mods do you have and what set-up are you running , what management are you running

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people say that vtec doesn't like boost very much? because honda designed vtec to replace forced induction? Which is why honda has never made a boosted car?

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it's a DOHC ZC, w/ a t3 setup on TE and 390's

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B18 LS rod's are a bit weaker then the B16 and other B-serie Vtec rod's...D15 rod's are the weakest Rod's...D15 vtec rod is a bit stronger and all D16 rod's are the same in strenght...maybe the older ZC rod's are a bit stronger,,,they are a bit bigger though.

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Actually they have made a turbo car with intercooler, just not in america.
http://www.batfa.com/new_car_honda_thats.htm

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Any gain in flow from a vtec engagement is an advantage while going turbo what you have to be concerned with as far as a cam grind is the valve overlap. too much valve overlap on a forced inducted motor will hurt performance