the death of the autobahn beast
 

short story I blew my motor tonight. and the sad thing about it I did not stomp any ass doing it.
I was prepping for a dyno contest last night, and detonate at 23 psi turned the boost down to 20psi. today drove the car to build my friends engine, and blew it on the way back.
0 compression in #3 and spark plug iground strap is broken off.
my last race of the year would have been next weekend. oh well! just hope I dope have to bore over, or get a new block.

Re: the death of the autobahn beast
 

That sucks dude.
Build a D next time. O0

Re: the death of the autobahn beast
 

that would be going SDRAWKCAB, I just bought a odyssey 3.5l vtec maybe I should boost that. I just hope the damage is not too bad, I drove it for 11km after I found out I blew it. I ran all lights and signs so I would not have to stop cause it won't idle.

Re: the death of the autobahn beast
 

i dont think ive ever seen videos of your car :-\

Re: the death of the autobahn beast
 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzTbRZK7LN4

don't judge me for the second one I had tranny probem but still won
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dC6V1kiGvaw

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/b...vic_156140.htm

Re: the death of the autobahn beast
 

Damn man that really sucks. I liked your car.

Re: the death of the autobahn beast
 

sick autobahn video my afro engineering friend

Re: the death of the autobahn beast
 

it won't be down for long, its not daily driven so I can hang without it for a few months. I will start tearing it down next weekend, hope all I need to order is a new head gasket and a single piston. but if not I will get some coated mahle or supertech. and only use racegas above 14 psi.

Re: the death of the autobahn beast
 

:'(

Re: the death of the autobahn beast
 

---- I LOVED YOUR CAR TOO. Pictures actually made it look faster than it really was tough. NONE THE ------- LESS I LOVED/LOVE IT.

Re: the death of the autobahn beast
 

That ------- sucks, dude. :( :( :(

Re: the death of the autobahn beast
 

I was very disappointed that I blew my motor days before a horsepower competition against some srt4 and srt8 its a dodge car show that only allow dodge and mercedes , only chryseler cars. but they will let a few other cars in I am invited. they will have a dyno contest.
I was not pissed about blowing the motor since it served me more than 12000 miles since I build it and it mostly saw hard autobahn driving at high rpms.

my friend has the same motor as mine that he is rebuilding, so he offer to let me use it for the competition, but the machine shop will not get it bored by saturday.

so we started to brainstorm. we decided to build up my old 81mm block with all stock internals, rods pistons etc. then I will put my built head on with crower cams. slap the t67 turbo on and turn it up still we reach our goal. without throwing a rod.
do you think we can make 600whp on stock internals?
the idea is to pop some big headed domestic owners that thinks because their engine is bigger they are faster. I don't care if the motor pop on the dyno I will push it till it reads 600+

also what do you guys think of mahle pistons?

Re: the death of the autobahn beast
 

You're going to need some serious piston-wall clearances, I'd shoot for 0.005" or and a comparable ring end gap, and engine life will be measured in a handful of hours if there are no factory defects in the parts you use.


Mahle makes good stuff.

Re: the death of the autobahn beast
 

SHitty deal dude... I too have always liked your pile of CF and green!!!

LOL...


Ya like JD said, Id run quite a bit of piston to wall... Im at .006 now on my latest incarnation of my pile (although with the cast pistons you probably dont have to go that big).... Its BAERELY (if any) noticably louder when cold. When its warm I cant tell any difference at all... It sure likes having the ---- beat out of it still!!!

Although my bore is bigger (88mm), Im running .019 and .021 top and bottom ring gap respectively Motor seated well - quickly ( :6 ), doesnt smoke and runs just as well as before... Id stay away from the Mahles myself... Ive had GREAT luck with the CPS, so yes Im a jocker....

DONT FORGET THE ROYAL PURPLE!!!!

Re: the death of the autobahn beast
 

the mahle pistons are for my blown block. will be rebuilt by the end of the month.


I am now trying to assemble a stock block with worn, used pistons and rods all stock at the same psi as my sleeved block in order to win a contest, plan to spend $00.00 on this project because its only a one day block. if it pops on the dyno we don't care! as long as we win. stock ls rods ,pistons, block, stock b16 head with stock dual springs. crower cams 1000cc intectors. big ass turbo.
we plan to turn up the boost till it detonate on pump gas, I am searching for race gas, I am running meth also.
this is gonna be my HMT dyno queen for one dyno runs.

Re: the death of the autobahn beast
 

If you can lay down 400 on the stock block consider yourself lucky

Re: the death of the autobahn beast
 

Yah like I said

Re: the death of the autobahn beast
 

The rods being the limiting factor??

Re: the death of the autobahn beast
 

i have an issue of honda tuning where they used a b16 and made over 500hp with stock rods but forged pistons. if you could at least pick up some used forged pistons, i bet you could reach your goal

Re: the death of the autobahn beast
 

we will see, told my friend to forget about tuning because we will probably throw a rod. we will tune for 10 psi on the streets, and run it an the dyno at 25 psi without tune. I have my tow rope, my friend have a truck, and its 12km away from my house.

Re: the death of the autobahn beast
 

I thought the rods were the weakest link.

Re: the death of the autobahn beast
 

quote author=bigdaddyvtec link=topic=96472.msg1182787#msg1182787 date=1220400588]
The rods being the limiting factor??
[/quote]


The old man was always cracking pistons on stock b16a bottom ends at the 400 whp mark also had bent rods has well at that #. Im a little suspect of all the huge power stock motors people claim has the tuning on all his motors was done By harv who is old and nationally known. He was on american hot rod tuning their cars and motors were tuned on Motec.



Then the motors got pistons/rods and ran low 10's on a blockguard. From what I gather with stock rods/pistons/sleeves any touch of detonation they all become a weak link give or take depending on the situation. The rods I know atleast in the b16a's are ------ beefy and take a beating like no one else. One of the motors was a stock rod/stock sleeve/forged piston motor that had a 60-1 on around 30 pounds and a 50 shot. Motor took it for about 4 races before it got rod knock and had a slighly bent rod.



Some of these guys may have made over 400+whp on stock motors but how many besides Dave Lee have actually had them running for prolonged periods of time or even down the track is far and few in between.

Re: the death of the autobahn beast
 

Thats pushing it. The motor proably broke right after. 400+hp on stock rods even b16a ones is pushing your luck. Trashing a good b16a head/valvetrain is hardly worth it


dohc vtec heads arent dime a dozen like sohc stuff that is basically given away. The 2 motors I threw rods out of trashed the whole motor basically nothing was left but external bolt ons.

Re: the death of the autobahn beast
 

Yup, I agree:


:P

Re: the death of the autobahn beast
 

we are willing to take that risk.
put it this way, all my years of being on hmt, this is my first time trying to prove a point at all risks. I am tired of bloated head domestic owners.

Re: the death of the autobahn beast
 

that was the point i was making. the 500hp b16 might not have lasted but if it makes it through the dyno pull then its mission accomplished

Re: the death of the autobahn beast
 

I guess Im just not that style of person. The chance of trashing the whole motor seems pointless to me. Blown motors suck especially a b series vtec. My wallet doesnt allow me to do such things.

Re: the death of the autobahn beast
 

i still have a D in my car. i know what you mean. although, i dont think i would put a B in even if i had the cash

Re: the death of the autobahn beast
 

That sucks that you blew your motor. Im sure you will get it back together in no time.

Re: the death of the autobahn beast
 

already ordered the parts, taking the block apart to put the stock block together.
this time I ordered some mahle pistons 84.5mm . as soon as they come in I will drop it off at the machine shop for bore.
214euros to bore .20 over, calculate that in dollars around $350. it would still cost more than mailing it back to the states for a better quality work.

Re: the death of the autobahn beast
 

U just need the dave lee tune on stock block motors and their good for 500whp and 10's only thing that kills stock blocks is 40+psi boost spikes :X

Re: the death of the autobahn beast
 

i hope my b20 /b16vtack last wit 260 -300 hp all stock accept arp rod bolts

Re: the death of the autobahn beast
 

:-\ That sucks

Re: the death of the autobahn beast
 

RIP for a real B-series beast

Re: the death of the autobahn beast
 

:'(

Re: the death of the autobahn beast
 

You'd better ------- win.

I'd have sex over and over and over again with your manifold.

No condom and glowing red hot so it burns the skin off my cock fusing to it forever.

Re: the death of the autobahn beast
 

front page 1 more time for respects

Re: the death of the autobahn beast
 

where are the carnage pics????

Re: the death of the autobahn beast
 

true hmt O0 (brotherly) love

Re: the death of the autobahn beast
 

well I did not make 600whp, because my boy told the dyno operator to let off at 6800rpm because he did not expect it to push 20 psi, power started to climb fast but he cut it we had the rev set to 8000rpm
we made 300whp at 20psi of boost using a 50/50 mix of e85 and 93 octane gas, timing retarded to 12degrees, and afr 10.9. did not make my primary goal of 600whp, but I won the most power non mopar car. still second place overall behind built srt4 running 28psi on a gt30 made 480whp

so I made 300whp on a junkyard motor, with scrap parts from different people, even the bearing were mix match from different cars, the piston rings caked on the pistons with sludge, cylinder walls scarred, we took the inner springs from my friend because I just built his head for him, and put them on the exhaust side to make it dual springs all around . it actually runs better than my sleeved motor, still running strong . I have to tear it apart to return the rod nuts that I my barrowed from someone .