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78NOVA 08-23-2007 02:27 PM

d16y7
 
like the topic says. would anyone here rock a d17y7? i have the opprotunity to pick one up for dirt cheap. i dont know much about them or have really heard anything about them. i guess its out of the newer hondas(2000+). is there any drawbacks to using this engine? and would it be fairly simple to just swap a d16a6/z6 head onto it with boost? help me out a bit ladies. i can either get the whole engine or just the block. any quick and knowledgeable responses would be great.

beaker 08-23-2007 02:31 PM

Re: d17y8
 
arent those the motors with the fucked up intake manis?

HMTguy 08-23-2007 02:31 PM

Re: d17y8
 
2001+, and they were D17A1/A2

78NOVA 08-23-2007 02:35 PM

Re: d17y8
 

Originally Posted by jagojon3
2001+, and they were D17A1/A2

my bad its actually a d17y7. is it still any good? is it worth the time to actaully get it and swap it into my hatch since its like .2 liters bigger?

J-MAN 08-23-2007 02:42 PM

Re: d17y7
 
i think you mean d16y7, and if its a good deal why not use it. you can always swap the IM for a regular one from a z6 or y8 right?

90accordIHI 08-23-2007 02:42 PM

Re: d17y7
 
is a d16y7 with d17 internals. stay the ---- away from it for "cheap"

there was never a d17y7 made

78NOVA 08-23-2007 02:46 PM

Re: d17y7
 

Originally Posted by 90boostdaccord
is a d16y7 with d17 internals. stay the ---- away from it for "cheap"

there was never a d17y7 made

ok even if. it is actually a complete d16y7 and he just made a mistake in the sale ad should i still get it imma ask for some pics to make sure of what it is anyways. he never got it running so he pulled it out in favor of a B series swap. if its actaully a d16y7 pic it up?

90accordIHI 08-23-2007 02:49 PM

Re: d17y7
 

Originally Posted by 78NOVA
ok even if. it is actually a complete d16y7 and he just made a mistake in the sale ad should i still get it imma ask for some pics to make sure of what it is anyways. he never got it running so he pulled it out in favor of a B series swap. if its actaully a d16y7 pic it up?

sounds like he's' trying to get rid of a headache buy selling it. probly not worth it

78NOVA 08-23-2007 02:54 PM

Re: d17y7
 

Originally Posted by 90boostdaccord
sounds like he's' trying to get rid of a headache buy selling it. probly not worth it

and? one mans headache is another mans powerplant!? dont see why it wouldnt be worth it. he says the harness is chew'd up and thats one reason why he never got it running.

d-man 08-23-2007 02:55 PM

Re: d17y7
 
If you don't know that there was never a D17Y7 and that there was a D16Y7 then I wouldn't suggest you turbo anything or attempt any swaps. Eg. Engine building.

Do some research on the engine. The Y series have a weak oilling system.

78NOVA 08-23-2007 03:01 PM

Re: d16y7
 

Originally Posted by d-man
If you don't know that there was never a D17Y7 and that there was a D16Y7 then I wouldn't suggest you turbo anything or attempt any swaps. Eg. Engine building.

Do some research on the engine. The Y series have a weak oilling system.

you can die for all i care.......dont tell me what to attempt and not what to attempt to do. you dont even know me for that fact. and in case you didnt know, i DIDN'T know there was never a d17y7 built..........like i said it may be a mistake on his end -------. week oiling system or not, i wonder how many people here have a boosted y7? ---- i would be boosted if my motor never took a ---- on me to begin with. i have all my ---- ready to go. ask around before you start making assumptions. and mainly, why do you think i even made this thread? TO FIND THE ---- OUT YOU DAMN NOOB!!!!

90accordIHI 08-23-2007 03:07 PM

Re: d17y7
 

Originally Posted by 78NOVA
and? one mans headache is another mans powerplant!? dont see why it wouldnt be worth it. he says the harness is chew'd up and thats one reason why he never got it running.

buy it if you want, i'm telling you that i wouldn't

d-man 08-23-2007 03:10 PM

Re: d17y7
 
hehehe....

Use the search button..... Its right up there in the top right of your screen.


Ok yes the D16Y7 is a cheap engine that you can play around with. They are fine turboed, just as good as Y8 (96-00 USDM EX) because its the same bottom end but just keep in mind that the oiling system could use some work on them. They like to spin bearings. What I would do is either hog out the outlet on the oil pump or get a D16Z6 pump. Could maybe save you some headaches. The compression ratio on them is low enough too about 9.2:1 ish. I'd look for a Y8 intake manifold too because they have the funky horizontally mounted throttle body.

I'd keep the A6 though.

78NOVA 08-23-2007 03:18 PM

Re: d17y7
 

Originally Posted by d-man
hehehe....

Use the search button..... Its right up there in the top right of your screen.


Ok yes the D16Y7 is a cheap engine that you can play around with. They are fine turboed, just as good as Y8 (96-00 USDM EX) because its the same bottom end but just keep in mind that the oiling system could use some work on them. They like to spin bearings. What I would do is either hog out the outlet on the oil pump or get a D16Z6 pump. Could maybe save you some headaches. The compression ratio on them is low enough too about 9.2:1 ish. I'd look for a Y8 intake manifold too because they have the funky horizontally mounted throttle body.

I'd keep the A6 though.


now you see. thats the type of information im looking for, thats helpful in what im trying to do. and a6? where did that come from? id like to grab one up id use that instead.


***OK NEW INFO***

it is a typo in his for sale ad. it is a d16y7. i think im gonna pick it up. hes letting it go dirt cheap.

Guy-Fast 08-23-2007 03:31 PM

Re: d16y7
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_D_engine

d16u7nh 08-23-2007 05:09 PM

Re: d16y7
 
i had a y7 engine for years and beat the ---- out of it. and it lasted forever. if you say cheap like under $100 get it and build it up.

SpankedYA! 08-23-2007 05:46 PM

Re: d16y7
 
I just turbo'd a D16Y7 with a Y8 intake. I have done 3 actually. They boost just fine. Get it if its cheap. Change the intake manifold and ride.

78NOVA 08-23-2007 05:54 PM

Re: d16y7
 
well sounds like im getting this motor.... :P

i think im gonna rebuild it first with some vitaras and rods....... is it worth it putting on a z6 head as well. i have access to one of them. or an a6 head?

SpankedYA! 08-23-2007 06:13 PM

Re: d16y7
 
VTEC is always nice. Head Studs.

78NOVA 08-23-2007 06:57 PM

Re: d16y7
 

Originally Posted by CSaddict
VTEC is always nice. Head Studs.

wont i have to convert to obd1 to run vtec with the proper fuel and timing maps even if im chipped on a pm6?

bitchasscracker 08-23-2007 07:10 PM

Re: d16y7
 
dude just run the d16y7 all the ---- from your old motor will bolt right on to it. mianifold and all and has the same power as a a6 but it newer and more reliable

HondaTuner 08-23-2007 07:10 PM

Re: d16y7
 
PM6 + OBD1 = Does not compute.

There was Vtec before there was OBD1, young padawan. You can still have the car obd0 and have vtec. Converting to obd1 is probably the best thing you could do though. ;)

78NOVA 08-23-2007 07:11 PM

Re: d16y7
 

Originally Posted by bitchasscracker
dude just run the d16y7 all the ---- from your old motor will bolt right on to it. mianifold and all and has the same power as a a6 but it newer and more reliable

but i was speaking of building it with an d16z6 head?

Jorsher 08-23-2007 07:12 PM

Re: d16y7
 

Originally Posted by 78NOVA
well sounds like im getting this motor.... :P

i think im gonna rebuild it first with some vitaras and rods....... is it worth it putting on a z6 head as well. i have access to one of them. or an a6 head?

cmon man...

vtec head or non-vtec head? vtec ftw

I'll be using a z6 block, y8 head, vitaras, tt rods. If you have access to a vtak head, then why not? There are some fairly simple things you can do with the y7 block to make the oiling issues a little less of a problem...

78NOVA 08-23-2007 07:14 PM

Re: d16y7
 

Originally Posted by SinisterCRX
PM6 + OBD1 = Does not compute.

There was Vtec before there was OBD1, young padawan. You can still have the car obd0 and have vtec. Converting to obd1 is probably the best thing you could do though. ;)

i know that. re read what i asked lol. but what i meant to say is,

Originally Posted by 78NOVA
wont i have to convert to obd1 to run vtec with the proper fuel and timing maps even though im running a chipped pm6 when i boost or can i do something otherwise?


78NOVA 08-23-2007 07:15 PM

Re: d16y7
 

Originally Posted by Jorsher
cmon man...

vtec head or non-vtec head? vtec ftw

I'll be using a z6 block, y8 head, vitaras, tt rods. If you have access to a vtak head, then why not? There are some fairly simple things you can do with the y7 block to make the oiling issues a little less of a problem...

yes i was told to use a z6 oil pump that was modified a tad. and since a vtec head i can get i will.

Jorsher 08-23-2007 07:20 PM

Re: d16y7
 

Originally Posted by 78NOVA
yes i was told to use a z6 oil pump that was modified a tad. and since a vtec head i can get i will.

Yeah, I think one of the honda tuning mags they widened the oil passages in the crank but I can't really remember. My memory isn't that fantastic.

signorelli21 08-23-2007 07:24 PM

Re: d16y7
 
if you have a chipped pm6 then you can run turboedit and use the ac relay for your vtec activation, its one wire.

bitchasscracker 08-23-2007 07:26 PM

Re: d16y7
 

Originally Posted by 78NOVA
but i was speaking of building it with an d16z6 head?

why ? arent you boosting it ?? ---- vtec

90accordIHI 08-23-2007 07:29 PM

Re: d16y7
 

Originally Posted by bitchasscracker
why ? arent you boosting it ?? ---- vtec

;D +1

78NOVA 08-23-2007 07:42 PM

Re: d16y7
 

Originally Posted by 90boostdaccord
;D +1

yes i am boosting as well........................... :-*

d-man 08-23-2007 08:13 PM

Re: d16y7
 
I wouldn't run the Vtec head without actually using it. Kind of defeats the purpose of having the head.

Just run the Y7 head if you are boosting and just run the Y8 or Z6 IM.

bitchasscracker 08-23-2007 08:20 PM

Re: d16y7
 

Originally Posted by d-man
I wouldn't run the Vtec head without actually using it. Kind of defeats the purpose of having the head.

Just run the Y7 head if you are boosting and just run the Y8 or Z6 IM.


he has a a6 mani on his car right now he should just use that

78NOVA 08-23-2007 08:40 PM

Re: d16y7
 

Originally Posted by bitchasscracker

he has a a6 mani on his car right now he should just use that

yes i have a mpfi swapped d15b2 at the time. very good engine. freshly rebuilt not even 500 miles are on it. which will be pulled when i get ready to use this engine.

bitchasscracker 08-23-2007 08:45 PM

Re: d16y7
 
just throw it in the back yard. keep it for a rainy day

dirtygsr94 08-23-2007 10:03 PM

Re: d16y7
 
i used to rock a turbo y7

how do you exactly correct the oiling "problem" and whats problematic about it i havent heard this??

shanerv 08-23-2007 10:20 PM

Re: d16y7
 
In have had a couple y7's in the last few years. they are ok. have boosted 2 so far and ran great. not a power house by anymeans. and I would not press the issue of more then 10psi on them weak ass rods. and rod bolts. I have never really had a issue with oiling problems with mine. ran a good 80psi almost all the time. same fore my friends car too. so ya rock it. def switch intake mani's y8 or z6 the stock y7's are the worst one i have ever seen honda make.
the only other problem I had with them was majorly shot rings in my first one but I think that was due to me being a noob and running a vtec head with no fuel management. just a toggle switch haha. boost it. :6

N1ghtM0nkey 08-24-2007 06:00 AM

Re: d16y7
 

Originally Posted by bitchasscracker
why ? arent you boosting it ?? ---- vtec

A VTEC motor with one cam is like a woman with one titty, and a Honda motor without VTEC is like a woman with no -----. At first look she's not as good...but then you realize she's still 2/3 as useful as any other woman. ;)

That extra 1/3 being a smooth idle and good low RPM daily driving performance vs. lopey cams. :6

78NOVA 08-24-2007 12:36 PM

Re: d16y7
 

Originally Posted by n1ghtm0nkey
A VTEC motor with one cam is like a woman with one titty, and a Honda motor without VTEC is like a woman with no -----. At first look she's not as good...but then you realize she's still 2/3 as useful as any other woman. ;)

That extra 1/3 being a smooth idle and good low RPM daily driving performance vs. lopey cams. :6

welll thats one way of putting things when talking about vtec.............. :S :S

78NOVA 08-25-2007 08:48 AM

Re: d16y7
 
its either vtec or no vtec! how the ---- do you make a poll here? ive never figured it out?


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