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medotclose 07-01-2006 09:00 PM

d15b2 power?
 
ok, so i'm completley new to the honda's, been studying up as much as possible. I'm running and 89 civic 4 door. as far as i can tell its a b15b2 motor, I know its stock so if I'm wrong about please tell me. the question I have ie s what everyone here would do from the begining...I'm on a very small budget as well, 11 dollars an hour paying 675 a month rent, supporting me and my fiance who doesnt have a job, do the math and you'll realize i'm strapped for cash. I'm really looking to do motor work now, till i know more about turo's... I hear my rods are week so i know I want to change them out...and my friend told me I can use a vtec head on my block...and what could i use instead of that shitty plastic intake manifold, I hate the idea of plastic breaking and going into my motor...sorry for rambling

also, I live in puyallup washington, anyone nearby who wouldnt mind someone tagging along on an instal or somthing that would be cool, want to learn as much as possible from real world experience, not just reading what other people did and trying to imitate it...

so on with the "your a stupid noob" coments and what not.

RotaryGeek 07-01-2006 09:26 PM

Re: d15b2 power?
 
Your a stupid newb

medotclose 07-01-2006 09:35 PM

Re: d15b2 power?
 
yay, I'm a stupid noob yay, but at least i'm trying not to be.

HondaTuner 07-01-2006 09:57 PM

Re: d15b2 power?
 
Vtec head would work, but that block sucks.

I'd say buy a Vtec engine (say, d16z6), turbo your current piece. If it blows who cares, slap in the z6 :)

And welcome BTW.

z1guy 07-01-2006 10:10 PM

Re: d15b2 power?
 
www.honda-tech.com this is HMT, nobody cares about your n/a hopes and dreams.

Xgenturbo 07-01-2006 10:25 PM

Re: d15b2 power?
 
D16A1 (89 and under Integra) Rods and pistons for a much better CR if you want to make more power, throw on the VTEC head and you will have a fairly quick all motor D15 hybrid.

z1guy 07-01-2006 10:28 PM

Re: d15b2 power?
 

Originally Posted by Xgenturbo
D16A1 (89 and under Integra) Rods and pistons for a much better CR if you want to make more power, throw on the VTEC head and you will have a fairly quick all motor D15 hybrid.

why not use GSR rods??? hell if its gonna be a complete custom built bottom end might as well use some aftermarket rods........... if you where serious you need to research for yourself before giving advice out that completely wrong.

medotclose 07-01-2006 10:34 PM

Re: d15b2 power?
 
ok, so from my research the d16z6 sohc head would be the best thing to put on my block correct?

Xgenturbo 07-01-2006 10:35 PM

Re: d15b2 power?
 

Originally Posted by z1guy
why not use GSR rods??? hell if its gonna be a complete custom built bottom end might as well use some aftermarket rods........... if you where serious you need to research for yourself before giving advice out that completely wrong.

Giving out wrong advice? STFU you ------- retard, how do you expect to fit GSR rods on a D series engine? news flash fag, 89 and down integra engines were the same thing as a DOHC ZC pretty much it was a D series, oh and D15 aftermarket rods are rare and expensive because nobody build off a D15, and as for research I dont need any you dumb ----, this was something I have seen in person D16A1 pistons in a D15B

Zeniceguycrx 07-01-2006 10:45 PM

Re: d15b2 power?
 
y dont you all start buy telling him to do a mpfi swap first because it will be a bitch to try and put anything good through the dpfi setup

z1guy 07-01-2006 10:48 PM

Re: d15b2 power?
 

Originally Posted by Xgenturbo
Giving out wrong advice? STFU you ------- retard, how do you expect to fit GSR rods on a D series engine? news flash fag, 89 and down integra engines were the same thing as a DOHC ZC pretty much it was a D series, oh and D15 aftermarket rods are rare and expensive because nobody build off a D15, and as for research I dont need any you dumb ----, this was something I have seen in person D16A1 pistons in a D15B

haha, you are really that dumb. D15b uses 1.6l rod journals(45mm to be exact), but its the only 1.5l sohc that does, the rest use the original d15 rod journal of 42mm. WAIT, it gets better, HOW THE ---- are you gonna put 137mm rods in a motor that uses 134mm rods???? hmmm, guess you knew all this though. now go suck a fat dick and read up on your HONDAS or buy a ------- GEO.

HondaTuner 07-01-2006 10:49 PM

Re: d15b2 power?
 

Originally Posted by Xgenturbo
Giving out wrong advice? STFU you ------- retard, how do you expect to fit GSR rods on a D series engine? news flash fag, 89 and down integra engines were the same thing as a DOHC ZC pretty much it was a D series, oh and D15 aftermarket rods are rare and expensive because nobody build off a D15, and as for research I dont need any you dumb ----, this was something I have seen in person D16A1 pistons in a D15B

owned :y

if its a z6 and you want some cheap rods, get LS (b18) rods...

but yeah, mpfi swap FTW :D

z1guy 07-01-2006 10:51 PM

Re: d15b2 power?
 

Originally Posted by SinisterCRX
owned :y

if its a z6 and you want some cheap rods, get LS (b18) rods...

but yeah, mpfi swap FTW :D

OWNED, haha, not me, sorry, both of you JUST GOT OWNED, because obviously neither of you have a clue what you are saying. oh, and MPFI swap is a given, if he doesnt know that ---- he doesnt need to mod his car.

Zeniceguycrx 07-01-2006 10:51 PM

Re: d15b2 power?
 
if he new he wouldnt assk

HondaTuner 07-01-2006 11:03 PM

Re: d15b2 power?
 

Originally Posted by z1guy
OWNED, haha, not me, sorry, both of you JUST GOT OWNED, because obviously neither of you have a clue what you are saying. oh, and MPFI swap is a given, if he doesnt know that ---- he doesnt need to mod his car.

You're a fuckstick, please STFU immediately :D

z1guy 07-01-2006 11:05 PM

Re: d15b2 power?
 

Originally Posted by SinisterCRX
You're a fuckstick, please STFU immediately :D

why, because i am knowledgable and proved your DUMB ass wrong, go to bed, you need sleep before seeing god in the morning.

HondaTuner 07-01-2006 11:06 PM

Re: d15b2 power?
 
Bandwagon jumper... >:D

86-87 D16a1 rods would work too, IIRC they're the strongest of all D series...

So GSR rods, huh? You're an idiot.

https://www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/...?topic=34396.0
^ LS Rod how-to

Zeniceguycrx 07-01-2006 11:06 PM

Re: d15b2 power?
 
we need a online boxing game so ---- like this could be sorted out

Zeniceguycrx 07-01-2006 11:08 PM

Re: d15b2 power?
 
hes right but who the ---- has that ----

HondaTuner 07-01-2006 11:09 PM

Re: d15b2 power?
 
Not me, but just showing you can use LS rods. :)

Zeniceguycrx 07-01-2006 11:10 PM

Re: d15b2 power?
 
well i guess we dont need the boxing game

z1guy 07-01-2006 11:13 PM

Re: d15b2 power?
 

Originally Posted by SinisterCRX
Bandwagon jumper... >:D

86-87 D16a1 rods would work too, IIRC they're the strongest of all D series...

So GSR rods, huh? You're an idiot.

https://www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/...?topic=34396.0
^ LS Rod how-to

dude, you are still wrong..... listen, the ONLY 1.5l sohc honda motor that can accept a D16 rod is the D15b. you know nothing about what you are talking about. LS rods work great when bushed to fit the D15-16 piston, BUT WILL NOT WORK IN A D15 EXCEPT THE D15B. FOR MORE THAN ONE REASON, first being its 137mm (only TWO D15s use 137mm rods D15Z1 and D15B, the rest of the D15s use 134mm RODS, the LS or any other D16 compatible ROD wont work in the D15Z1 because it uses 42mm big end bearings, but THEY DO WORK IN The D15B BECAUSE IT USES 45MM big end bearings. quit ------- arguing about something you have no clue about. its really ------- annoying.

Zeniceguycrx 07-01-2006 11:14 PM

Re: d15b2 power?
 
anyone else gonna help this guy?

HondaTuner 07-01-2006 11:16 PM

Re: d15b2 power?
 

Originally Posted by z1guy
dude, you are still wrong..... listen, the ONLY 1.5l sohc honda motor that can accept a D16 rod is the D15b. you know nothing about what you are talking about. LS rods work great when bushed to fit the D15-16 piston, BUT WILL NOT WORK IN A D15 EXCEPT THE D15B. FOR MORE THAN ONE REASON, first being its 137mm (only TWO D15s use 137mm rods D15Z1 and D15B, the rest of the D15s use 134mm RODS, the LS or any other D16 compatible ROD wont work in the D15Z1 because it uses 42mm big end bearings, but THEY DO WORK IN The D15B BECAUSE IT USES 45MM big end bearings. quit ------- arguing about something you have no clue about. its really ------- annoying.


---- ---- fuckity ---- ---- ---- ???

When did I say that it will work in a 1.5? I never did. so STFU fag ^-^


if its a z6 and you want some cheap rods, get LS (b18) rods...
is what I said.

d16z6 = 1.6

:o ;) ::)

z1guy 07-01-2006 11:19 PM

Re: d15b2 power?
 
no ----, i know what you said, but look at the TITLE of this thread. the guy before you said to USE D16a1 rods and pistons, so i said, ---- it if you are gonna dream up a custom bottom end why not use GSR rods, i could have said, harley davison rods or some other dumb ---- like that.

no more beef w/ you, cuz now i realize you understand 1.5l rods are differant than 1.6l rods. sorry for the MISunderstanding.

HondaTuner 07-01-2006 11:24 PM

Re: d15b2 power?
 

Originally Posted by z1guy
no ----, i know what you said, but look at the TITLE of this thread. the guy before you said to USE D16a1 rods and pistons, so i said, ---- it if you are gonna dream up a custom bottom end why not use GSR rods, i could have said, harley davison rods or some other dumb ---- like that.

no more beef w/ you, cuz now i realize you understand 1.5l rods are differant than 1.6l rods. sorry for the MISunderstanding.

lol i know, i just like giving people a hard time, cheap entertainment :-*

i was still thinking along the lines of the d16a1 rods will work in a d15b... but yeah... lol oh well >:D

z1guy 07-01-2006 11:25 PM

Re: d15b2 power?
 

Originally Posted by SinisterCRX
lol i know, i just like giving people a hard time, cheap entertainment :-*

i was still thinking along the lines of the d16a1 rods will work in a d15b... but yeah... lol oh well >:D

they will work in the d15b, just not the d15b1/2 or any other d15xx

HondaTuner 07-01-2006 11:55 PM

Re: d15b2 power?
 
okay, to sum it up for the noob

Swap to MPFI. (google it if you dont know how to)
I would recommend doing a full Vtec engine swap instead of just getting the Vtec head, since you said about doing internal work.
Turbo the current pile while it's MPFI.
Crank the boost til she blows.
Swap in "built" d16z6

:)

z1guy 07-02-2006 12:00 AM

Re: d15b2 power?
 
or BUY A GEO, AND LEAVE THE HONDAS UNMOLESTED FOR US.

Zeniceguycrx 07-02-2006 09:52 AM

Re: d15b2 power?
 

Originally Posted by z1guy
or BUY A GEO, AND LEAVE THE HONDAS UNMOLESTED FOR US.


Thats it, If you run turbo edit and let your engine last for a year at low boost then build a nother bottem end in that time and when its done swap it in turn the boost up to 15psi and then gop rape everyone who thinks your car is a pile and everyone with a 60,000 $$$$ car

Xgenturbo 07-02-2006 10:13 AM

Re: d15b2 power?
 
Whoops, I forgot to mention that a different crank was used, please shoot me now mr. lord of hondas, I guess you dont have time to do many engine builds if you have all this time to come on forums and run your mouth saying you just owned half of HMT

Zeniceguycrx 07-02-2006 10:28 AM

Re: d15b2 power?
 
i ment to quote sinister

z1guy 07-02-2006 10:32 AM

Re: d15b2 power?
 

Originally Posted by Xgenturbo
Whoops, I forgot to mention that a different crank was used, please shoot me now mr. lord of hondas, I guess you dont have time to do many engine builds if you have all this time to come on forums and run your mouth saying you just owned half of HMT

dude, why are you so -----hurt about being wrong. now i know you are on the "benses d15b/z1 built thread" or the dseries.org thread about homemade d15b... you are the one talking about what you have "read". i talk from what i know. this isnt the first knowledgable thread about Dseries engines i have been involved in, and wont be the last. point is DONT ARGUE WITH SOMEONE THAT QUITE SIMPLY KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT. and as for being on here too much to get anything building done, it just so happens my vx tranny will be coming out today, cable zc 3rd gear going in as 4th gear, ex 3-5- and 4.25 ex FD, and it will be back in and driving today. so just because i am online oftem doesnt mean ---- except that i dont take all weekend to do simple ---- like most.

buk9tp 07-02-2006 11:11 AM

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this just in. z1guy is a ------- asshat :1


z1guys reply to this post: why because im right? and theyre wrong? and im always right? and im ------- full of myself and like to wave my Eschlong at everyone and show em how big it is? im right he's wrong! did i mention im right?> and that im always right? i got elevently million years of expierience and own 50 hondas, im not talking out my ass. im always right, did i mention that i was right and they were wrong? theyre always wrong im always right.

my reply to that post: z1guy is still a ------- asshat :1

z1guy 07-02-2006 11:22 AM

Re: d15b2 power?
 
where did you get that im full of myself. someone told the OP to use D16 rods and pistons in his D15 (which is physically impossible w/out other mods) and im the asshat because i told him he was wrong.

this just in BUK has no technical knowledge, he's a post----- that spends 99.9% of his time on HMT in the porn forum. let me ask you one thing BUK, what do you contribute to this site??? you drive a ------- monte carlo. now, how's that for swinging my Eslong in your face BIOTTTTCCCCHHHH.

Xgenturbo 07-02-2006 05:27 PM

Re: d15b2 power?
 

Originally Posted by z1guy
dude, why are you so -----hurt about being wrong. now i know you are on the "benses d15b/z1 built thread" or the dseries.org thread about homemade d15b... you are the one talking about what you have "read". i talk from what i know. this isnt the first knowledgable thread about Dseries engines i have been involved in, and wont be the last. point is DONT ARGUE WITH SOMEONE THAT QUITE SIMPLY KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT. and as for being on here too much to get anything building done, it just so happens my vx tranny will be coming out today, cable zc 4th gear going in as 3rd gear, ex 4-5- and 4.25 ex FD, and it will be back in and driving today. so just because i am online oftem doesnt mean ---- except that i dont take all weekend to do simple ---- like most.

Actually I'm not on thoes forums ::) I own a B series, sorry. why are you still crying about this? so youre right, I'm wrong, big deal.

crxmatt2 07-02-2006 07:32 PM

Re: d15b2 power?
 
medotclose.. sorry but your thread was owned by a bunch of HMT dickweeds

medotclose 07-02-2006 08:43 PM

Re: d15b2 power?
 
hey, I appreciate z1guy's knoledge, if he didnt ome argue it, I the know nothing noob would probably went out and bought some d16 rods and been horrified to find they didnt fit in my ----. so, I'm happy with that. so right now, i'm workning on mpfi and obd1. then switch to a d16z6 head and intake manifold...posible a little bit more internal ish. from there on i'll start my turbo project. is there any flaw in my plan? if so, please tell me. Oh yea, moving my battery to the back too, make some turbo room. thinkin bout using the turbo from my old probe...I know its not that great but, I have one...

Zeniceguycrx 07-02-2006 08:52 PM

Re: d15b2 power?
 
you dont need to go obd1, a boosted d series is just fine for obd 0

medotclose 07-02-2006 09:00 PM

Re: d15b2 power?
 
its preperation for the future, when I can actually afford a new motor. like a b18/B16


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