Common occurances turned into WWIII, or so your government hoped.
01-14-2008, 11:15 PM
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Re: Common occurances turned into WWIII, or so your government hoped.
Fine, Virgin Islands... but we still have bases all over the ------- place, so it could be argued in some ways we are still "colonizing" a lot of places.
01-14-2008, 11:16 PM
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Re: Common occurances turned into WWIII, or so your government hoped.
That's the thing, we don't have ---- to do with Iran, we're another nation. We don't absolutely need anything from them.
Places the U.S. has occupied and instituted, include but not limited to any and all "commonwealths" that the U.S. has.
The Philippines, Palau, the Marshal Islands, Bali, Northern portion of Sudan, Hawaii, Puerto Rico (doesn't really count because of the Shafroth act), the Maldives, and portions of the Pacific Outlying Islands in order to keep tabs on Japan. * all through military consent except PR
They call it a commonwealth, but it's a fully dependent nation that is ruled by our government.
"Reductio ad absurdum (Latin: "reduction to the absurd") also known as an apagogical argument, reductio ad impossibile, or proof by contradiction, is a type of logical argument where one assumes a claim for the sake of argument, derives an absurd or ridiculous outcome, and then concludes that the original assumption must have been wrong as it led to an absurd result."
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I think that outlines your rebuttals against issues in context rather well. Wherein you assume the pov you have argued against, rationalize it from your perspective with skewed ideals and perpetuate that it is in fact hearsay.
Places the U.S. has occupied and instituted, include but not limited to any and all "commonwealths" that the U.S. has.
The Philippines, Palau, the Marshal Islands, Bali, Northern portion of Sudan, Hawaii, Puerto Rico (doesn't really count because of the Shafroth act), the Maldives, and portions of the Pacific Outlying Islands in order to keep tabs on Japan. * all through military consent except PR
They call it a commonwealth, but it's a fully dependent nation that is ruled by our government.
"Reductio ad absurdum (Latin: "reduction to the absurd") also known as an apagogical argument, reductio ad impossibile, or proof by contradiction, is a type of logical argument where one assumes a claim for the sake of argument, derives an absurd or ridiculous outcome, and then concludes that the original assumption must have been wrong as it led to an absurd result."
-Wikipedia
I think that outlines your rebuttals against issues in context rather well. Wherein you assume the pov you have argued against, rationalize it from your perspective with skewed ideals and perpetuate that it is in fact hearsay.
01-14-2008, 11:18 PM
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Re: Common occurances turned into WWIII, or so your government hoped.
here a better question, how many millions of people has iran freed in this world. how many has the united states?
i wish i could ask ron paul a question, especially after he says when we left vietnam everything was great and now we trade with them and have relations.
he doesn't mention the millions of gooks that died after we left
i wish i could ask ron paul a question, especially after he says when we left vietnam everything was great and now we trade with them and have relations.
he doesn't mention the millions of gooks that died after we left
01-14-2008, 11:21 PM
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Re: Common occurances turned into WWIII, or so your government hoped.
Originally Posted by random-strike
so how is the US on a neo-imperial conquest and iran isn't?
Surely you don't like welfare programs here at home, and neither do I, yet you will support welfare for nations, and not even realize it. Who has more influence through military bases (14 permanent in Iraq now) and foriegn aid than the US?
Originally Posted by random-strike
here a better question, how many millions of people has iran freed in this world. how many has the united states?
i wish i could ask ron paul a question, especially after he says when we left vietnam everything was great and now we trade with them and have relations.
he doesn't mention the millions of gooks that died after we left
i wish i could ask ron paul a question, especially after he says when we left vietnam everything was great and now we trade with them and have relations.
he doesn't mention the millions of gooks that died after we left
01-14-2008, 11:21 PM
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Re: Common occurances turned into WWIII, or so your government hoped.
I honestly don't give a ---- about other nations, or people. I'm American in the sense that I believe in isolationism, we shouldn't help anyone until they specifically ask for it and give us clearly defined terms of reciprocity for our hard work.
Define "freed" as well, because many of the democracies we set up in SA are still run by dictator-like offices. The people seem to be bred under tyranny and get used to it.
Define "freed" as well, because many of the democracies we set up in SA are still run by dictator-like offices. The people seem to be bred under tyranny and get used to it.
01-14-2008, 11:21 PM
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Re: Common occurances turned into WWIII, or so your government hoped.
Originally Posted by wafflesincars
I think that outlines your rebuttals against issues in context rather well. Wherein you assume the pov you have argued against, rationalize it from your perspective with skewed ideals and perpetuate that it is in fact hearsay.
ill repeat:
us ships in international waters
iran harrases and drops fake mines in front of them
threatening communications
nothing happeneds
where is the absurd conclusion? "nothing happening"?
how is anything ive just said hearsay? its on video tape...
01-14-2008, 11:21 PM
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Re: Common occurances turned into WWIII, or so your government hoped.
The Marshall islands are not ruled by the United States Government and are ---- nothing on a map. My grandfather lives on Pohnpei island and the base in Micronesia was on Bikini Island. The rules changed after WWII and we had to play it safe against communist interest, if we didn't have an establishment on those islands, you can bet your bottom dollar Russia or China would have.
01-14-2008, 11:23 PM
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Re: Common occurances turned into WWIII, or so your government hoped.
Originally Posted by random-strike
WRONG.
ill repeat:
us ships in international waters
iran harrases and drops fake mines in front of them
threatening communications
nothing happeneds
where is the absurd conclusion? "nothing happening"?
how is anything ive just said hearsay? its on video tape...
ill repeat:
us ships in international waters
iran harrases and drops fake mines in front of them
threatening communications
nothing happeneds
where is the absurd conclusion? "nothing happening"?
how is anything ive just said hearsay? its on video tape...
Not about what happened. That doesn't matter, it happened. Done with.
I've said this to you in response to your construction of previous and current argument.
We've moved beyond arguing what actually happened out in the middle of that ocean.
01-14-2008, 11:24 PM
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Re: Common occurances turned into WWIII, or so your government hoped.
Originally Posted by Stealthmode
Johnny, have you noticed the amount of US military bases around the world compared to Iran? Have you taken into consideration our forign aid to countries vs. Iran? You'll see that we don't need to conquest land to rule it, all we need to do is have our military stationed there, and pay off that government to do what we want them to. (Also see: Israel, Pakistan, and a host of others)
Surely you don't like welfare programs here at home, and neither do I, yet you will support welfare for nations, and not even realize it. Who has more influence through military bases (14 permanent in Iraq now) and foriegn aid than the US?
Surely you don't like welfare programs here at home, and neither do I, yet you will support welfare for nations, and not even realize it. Who has more influence through military bases (14 permanent in Iraq now) and foriegn aid than the US?
and guess what GERMANY AND JAPAN STARTED A WAR WITH US. THEY ------- LOST. SUCKS TO BE THEM. and we EVEN GAVE THEM THEIR GODDAMN COUNTRIES BACK!!!
even after germany's 2nd world war they started. gimme a break... im sure if the soviet union would've won the cold war we'd be free to govern ourselves like they are right? they are even ------- with us through iran and venz on the side...
01-14-2008, 11:25 PM
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Re: Common occurances turned into WWIII, or so your government hoped.
Originally Posted by rawr
The Marshall islands are not ruled by the United States Government and are ---- nothing on a map. My grandfather lives on Pohnpei island and the base in Micronesia was on Bikini Island. The rules changed after WWII and we had to play it safe against communist interest, if we didn't have an establishment on those islands, you can bet your bottom dollar Russia or China would have.
We haven't had any justifiably bad conquering of any nation in our history.
