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MikeJ-2009 12-07-2005 08:06 AM

Re: clemency for "tookie" williams
 
The Hmong guy got an unfair trial? You mean the one that went out in the woods and shot all the hunters? So my signature should be "I have nightmares of hunting while Hmong people are around". That would sum up all you hmongs, just as you've summed up all white people (yes, white people that didn't give a murderer a fair trial?)

You and murderers. ??? Maybe you should be a dirtbag criminal defense attorney so you can protect all the "hero" murderers from the white manz system. :P

fork 12-07-2005 11:24 AM

Re: clemency for "tookie" williams
 
hes a cld blooded murderer, and started a gang which casued thousandas of deaths.

I say hang him high

evosol 12-07-2005 12:00 PM

Re: clemency for "tookie" williams
 
I say the trial was unfair because normaly high profile trials are relocated in order to preserve some of the jury from the media. It was obvious the media already made this man out to be guilty before the trial even got under way. And yes, he got an all white jury from the mid west, what do you think is going to happen?

Is he guilty for killing those hunters? No doubt about it, its unfortunate for those family members.
Was it provoked by racial tension? No doubt about it. Its very possible that he felt there was a real iminent threat, so in his mind he did what he had to do to survive.

thats just what i think.

Stealth, it seems to me that you have made an attempt to make this a racial thing. I have not. I think you read into my sig more than what was meant to be there. I am more than my culture as you should know. Your personal attacks on me or "us Hmongs" isn't fly ---- to me.

For the record, none of my posts brings up the fact of racism, YOU brought it out. what gives??

i'm done with this thread...

2BG4HNDA 12-07-2005 12:55 PM

Re: clemency for "tookie" williams
 

Originally Posted by evosol
Its very possible that he felt there was a real iminent threat, so in his mind he did what he had to do to survive.

thats just what i think.


Then your a complete ------- moron....that's the dumbest thing i have read on here i think ever and we say some really dumb things from time to time....un-------belivable....

Reddy 12-07-2005 01:08 PM

Re: clemency for "tookie" williams
 

Originally Posted by evosol
Is he guilty for killing those hunters? No doubt about it, its unfortunate for those family members.
Was it provoked by racial tension? No doubt about it. Its very possible that he felt there was a real iminent threat, so in his mind he did what he had to do to survive.


My black neighbors look very threatening, by your logic I should go to my house get a gun than go over and kill them becuase I feel its what I have to do to survive ::)

jinxy 12-07-2005 01:15 PM

Re: clemency for "tookie" williams
 

Originally Posted by evosol
I say the trial was unfair because normaly high profile trials are relocated in order to preserve some of the jury from the media. It was obvious the media already made this man out to be guilty before the trial even got under way. And yes, he got an all white jury from the mid west, what do you think is going to happen?

Is he guilty for killing those hunters? No doubt about it, its unfortunate for those family members.
Was it provoked by racial tension? No doubt about it. Its very possible that he felt there was a real iminent threat, so in his mind he did what he had to do to survive.

thats just what i think.

Stealth, it seems to me that you have made an attempt to make this a racial thing. I have not. I think you read into my sig more than what was meant to be there. I am more than my culture as you should know. Your personal attacks on me or "us Hmongs" isn't fly ---- to me.

For the record, none of my posts brings up the fact of racism, YOU brought it out. what gives??

i'm done with this thread...

Im white. im from the mid west. am i racist? NO. Thanks for the sterotype that all white people who live in the midwest are racist hicks. Thats rather racist of you. There defence lawyer is alloud to expell any juror they are uncomfortable with, so is the defendent and so is the prosecutor. so thats the jury he agreed oppon. and thats the one that sentanced him.

dragon 12-07-2005 01:27 PM

Re: clemency for "tookie" williams
 
i see both sides throwing racist ----. Sometimes i swear people use racial slur to other race when they do something wrong when they know they really just want to say the word. ::)

but i agree that fucker killed people and doesn't deserve ----. Another thing I hate is a person that has done killing don't matter if its one person or million think everything fine after finding god or made a change AFTER they are in jail. Be that way before the murders mother fucker why you got to change after your being sentence to life?

He deserves to die just let every other murder

evosol 12-07-2005 01:38 PM

Re: clemency for "tookie" williams
 

Originally Posted by Whitey

Originally Posted by evosol
Is he guilty for killing those hunters? No doubt about it, its unfortunate for those family members.
Was it provoked by racial tension? No doubt about it. Its very possible that he felt there was a real iminent threat, so in his mind he did what he had to do to survive.


My black neighbors look very threatening, by your logic I should go to my house get a gun than go over and kill them becuase I feel its what I have to do to survive ::)

No, thats illogic. The key word it 'imminent threat'.


Tom-Guy 12-07-2005 01:42 PM

Re: clemency for "tookie" williams
 

Originally Posted by spongerlbc
On a side note... I had a Blood/Crips shooting right next door to my odl house. Crazy puerto rican girl Koko's boyfriend gets out of prison, has a "prison release party," breaks a bottle over some guys head, guy comes back late at night with his crip gangbanger friends and fires 4 shots. 2 hit his gut and hes still alive but back in prison where he belongs. The story got two sentences in the local paper (none in the school paper) due to Rutgers University/ New Brunswick PD covering it up... protecting their "safe school" image.

There is a serial murderer in Asheville that gets no press. (Amber Lundgren, coupla of streetwalkers dumped down in the river district by the stockyard) . Aside from Amber, most hardly get publicized.

There is one, or maybe a couple, of serial rapists. Waitresses at the downtown clubs/bars are targeted. The attacks don't make the news.

Welcome to ashEVILle, top ten place to retire/live/raise a family for over a decade now, and all-american city. Our real estate prices are up 450% over the last 15 years, and the city fills up with stupid people who don't know how to drive every summer/fall. Someone drop the bomb, please.

Reddy 12-07-2005 01:44 PM

Re: clemency for "tookie" williams
 

Originally Posted by evosol

Originally Posted by Whitey

Originally Posted by evosol
Is he guilty for killing those hunters? No doubt about it, its unfortunate for those family members.
Was it provoked by racial tension? No doubt about it. Its very possible that he felt there was a real iminent threat, so in his mind he did what he had to do to survive.


My black neighbors look very threatening, by your logic I should go to my house get a gun than go over and kill them becuase I feel its what I have to do to survive ::)

No, thats illogic. The key word it 'imminent threat'.



But they live right next to me and I see them any day, how do I know they won't snap at any minute and kill me? Therefore "in my mind" they are an imment threat.

Same logic used to kill a bunch of hunters. :-\ Hope I don't get a black jury ::)


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