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Old 12-13-2005, 10:50 AM
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wow, once again with the damn name calling,

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n : a poor white person in the southern United States [syn: cracker]

i am not a redneck i cannot deny bieng country, but i can't stand rednecks, haven't i established this already? congrats to you for carrying on your ignroance, and profiling to a younger generation, when others said hang the ------ they weren't labeled as a redneck, but when i brought up the subject of a new form of punishment i was labeled redneck'. i wonder if this i because i am from kentucky? ! from now on i am form indianna, okay? let's see how things fair for me from there.
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Old 12-13-2005, 11:56 AM
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o white trash hillbilli boy shut your face, just like buck your always backing your race up! r u concerned about something? anyways ---- off ****** i live in the NW BITCH.
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Old 12-13-2005, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by kuntry_boi06
wow, once again with the damn name calling,

redneck

n : a poor white person in the southern United States [syn: cracker]

i am not a redneck i cannot deny bieng country, but i can't stand rednecks, haven't i established this already? congrats to you for carrying on your ignroance, and profiling to a younger generation, when others said hang the ------ they weren't labeled as a redneck, but when i brought up the subject of a new form of punishment i was labeled redneck'. i wonder if this i because i am from kentucky? ! from now on i am form indianna, okay? let's see how things fair for me from there.
shut the ---- up you goat ------- piece of inbred kentucky ----.
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Old 12-13-2005, 12:54 PM
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Better off. If you belief in capital punishment in anyway this guy is a perfect exmaple of why it should be used. Who cares what he's done while in prison if he never got caught Im sure more families would of laid their family members to rest. The murders he was tried for were not gang killings but killings of innocent people. California is a better place without people like him around.
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Old 12-13-2005, 01:22 PM
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if you had let him live then whats next. there has to be rules and laws and punishments for the people who break those rules and laws.!
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Old 12-13-2005, 02:24 PM
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Jesse Jackson gave an interview claiming that we've let him live this long after the trial, what's the point of killing him now. Could you imagine if we tried to kill him the day after his trial without giving him his 24 years of appeals? Jesse Jackson would ---- himself.
That's the sad part is that after 24 years of appeals being denied, even by the most liberal 9th circuit court (who hates the death penalty), you still have this argument that he shouldn't have died. Where have these people been for the last 24 years?

And the rioting thing is a joke. Nobody is gonna do ----. This whole thing was about being on TV. Anyone and everyone who thought they could be on TV made some type of stupid comments to get their 15 minutes.
Yesterday the head of one of the NAACP chapters did an interview to tell the media to stop talking about riots, because they could be giving young black people idea's about doing that type of thing. So this NAACP guy gets his 15 minutes blaming the media for bringing the riots up, but if you look at last weeks news, it was actually the LA city council who was looking for thier 15 minutes and held a press conferance about potential riots after the killing. Before this, nobody had even mentioned riots. It was a ploy to get thier 15 minutes.
So the NAACP chapter guy shouldn't have been blaming the media, but blaming the LA city coucil. Bernard Parks, Herb Wesson, and another lady that I don't remember her name. I'll also mention that all three of these LA city coucil hacks that came up with the "riot" scenerio were all black. It's a circus, and everyone wants 15 minutes.
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I would really like to know how much money was spent to keep him for 24 years in prison a waste of tax payers money which he prob. never was a taxpayer my beleif is if u do the crime ( murder) u have 1 year to fight the courts to get off and if u cant win ---- YOU YOUR DEAD THE NEXT DAY
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self defense is one thing, but robbing people and killing them and laughing, this dirtbag should have been towed behind a peterbuilt along time ago. if you kill someone cause your a low life loser like he was and is and that whole shitwhole part of the state, shouldnt get a year in jail or anytime in jail. it should just be over like that, saves money and time.
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You may recall the name Joseph C. Phillips if you were a Cosby Show fan. He played the husband to Lisa Bonet character. He wrote the below column and it’s a doozy:

Standing outside the walls of San Quentin prison, the rapper Snoop Dogg urged California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger to grant clemency to convicted murderer Stan “Tookie” Williams. Williams, the co founder of the notorious street gang the Crips, was convicted and sentenced to death for the 1979 slayings of Albert Owens, Yen-I Yang, his wife, Tsai-Shai Chen Yang, and their daughter, Yu-Chin Yang Lin. Barring intervention by the governor, he will die by lethal injection on December 13. Speaking before a thousand young people and supporters, Snoop lectured the governor: “Stanley `Tookie’ Williams is not just a regular old guy, he’s an inspirator…His voice needs to be heard.”

Snoop, Mike Farrell, Danny Glover, Jamie Foxx and the other celebrity voices now raised in support of Williams offer a clear picture of the distorted moral vision of the Hollywood left. It is a vision that finds virtue contemptible and props up homicidal maniacs who write bad children’s books as role models for the masses.

The argument for commutation of Tookie’s sentence centers on all the good work he has done since going to prison. The series of children’s books he has written and his work to stop gang violence is proof of his redemption. His death, they say, will only serve to rob those youth currently in gangs or considering joining gangs, of hope. Witness that his supporters do not claim that Tookie is innocent of his crimes. They are not seeking that Williams be released, only that his sentence be commuted. Williams, however, has never admitted guilt. That little inconsistency suggests the great “inspirator” is not only an unrepentant murderer, but a liar as well.

The portrayal of Williams as some pied piper of peace for the gang community also holds very little water. A quick review of Book Scan shows the Tookie series of books have hardly been blockbusters. His top seller, “Gangs and Violence” has sold 330 books. Another book “Gangs and Wanting to Belong” sold exactly two copies. No one is reading his books, least of all his two sons, one of whom is serving time in San Quentin. The other was just arrested on charges of aggravated rape. Poor book sales are not reason to send someone to the execution chamber, but then Williams was not convicted of lackluster book sales. He was found guilty of shooting four innocent people in cold blood, a fact his supporters continue to forget.

Here again, wealthy celebrities are telling hard working, law-abiding citizens that the example offered by them is inadequate to save their communities; the models of competence, creativity and virtue that are alive in these neighborhoods is simply insufficient. No matter that hundreds of young people find the strength of character – the hope — to resist the gang life. No matter that many of the stars have themselves found the strength to rise out of the tough streets. All that means nothing as compared to the words and example of Tookie Williams.

On Sunday November 13, one week before the “Save Tookie” rally at San Quentin, fourteen-year old William *** and a friend were attending a neighborhood carnival when they were gunned down by a man who mistook them for rival gang members. ***, who was not in a gang, was struck in the chest and died at the scene. That is the evil wrought by Stanley Williams!

Of course Snoop and Danny Glover did not hold a rally for William ***. His death went unnoticed by the Hollywood commissars of compassion. They were too busy trying to save the life of a cold-blooded killer to notice one more young life snuffed out by gang violence. That tells you all you need to know about the corrupt vision the Hollywood left has for America.

Also today the California Supreme Court voted down another appeal by Tookie:

The California Supreme Court refused Wednesday to halt the scheduled execution of convicted killer Stanley Tookie Williams, the Crips gang founder who became an anti-gang activist while in prison and whose supporters claim has redeemed himself.

In a last-ditch legal move, defense attorneys petitioned the high court earlier this month, alleging shoddy forensic testing and other errors may have wrongly sent Williams to San Quentin State Prison, where he is scheduled die by injection Dec. 13.

And finally, WorldNetDaily wrote about his supposed “good behavior” while in prison:

While Williams’ celebrity cheerleaders have claimed he has been a model prisoner throughout his sentence and have pointed to this as evidence of his rehabilitation, the DA’s report contains 11 examples of incidents for which he was disciplined, beginning in 1981 and continuing through 1993. They include:

* a violent fight with another inmate June 30, 1981, in which he repeatedly struck the prisoner while kneeling over him;

* a refusal to line up for a return to his cell Jan. 26, 1982, in which he threatened a guard;

* throwing a chemical substance in the eyes of a guard Jan. 28, 1982, in an attack that resulted in chemical burns and emergency treatment;

* a second attack on a guard with a chemical substance Jan. 29, 1982;

* an attack on another inmate Feb. 16, 1984, in which Williams only stopped beating the prisoner when a warning shot was fired;

* a threat to kill a guard June 8, 1984;

* the beating of another inmate July 4, 1986 that only ceased when armed officers arrived on the scene;

* another fight with an inmate that led to his own stabbing, reportedly retaliation for his ordering another inmate to be stabbed;

* his continued association with the Crips street gang led to administrative segregation Oct. 19, 1988;

* the beating of another inmate Dec. 24, 1991, that only stopped after a warning shot was fired;

* another fight with other inmates July 6, 1993, in which a stabbing instrument (shank) was recovered.

The DA’s report also says Williams threatened all of the jurors after they found him guilty.

“Specifically, the defendant looked at the jurors and said he ‘was going to get all’ of them,” said the report. “After learning of this threat, the trial judge inquired of the jury foreperson. The foreperson confirmed the defendant mouthed the words ‘I’m going to get each and every one of you m—–f——.”

But still, the dumb and the blind will flock to his side. Those same people are at the side of cop-killer Mumia and now they are at the side of this piece of ----.
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Old 12-13-2005, 03:29 PM
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not all black people think that this ****** should live. as a matter of fact if that was my family he killed I would take his place in jail by killing him and or any body in my way of trying to kill him.

but most of you racists white folks need to keep your racial opinions to your selves. this bored does not only consists of white people, so please have some respect for your fellow negros, and stop the racism, I too think that black activists make things worst for blacks. but that does not mean, that you should just black list the negro race. please! I see so many racist comments on this forum. its a shame that its comming from people you respect and recomend. keep it to yourselves please. we are HMT one big happy family. have some respect please.
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