CIA drug smuggling... again
12-13-2007, 06:48 PM
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Re: CIA drug smuggling... again
Originally Posted by RacingTiger
This is the stupidest report I've ever read! Purely mind numbing! 
They say this thing was carrying 6 tons of cocaine. Yeah thats great. to bad the Gulfstreams maximum payload 5,456lbs. OH MAN, SOMEONE CANT DO MENTAL MATH. There's a reason Fedex doesnt use Gulfstreams for package delivery. They're designed to shuttle people in suits with briefcases NOT Cargo. oh yeah, thats not including the Pilot and Copilot so drop it down to a 5,000lb or 2.5 tons. Second, they have this stupid "flight plan" starting at Bogota, which has an elevation of about 8,000ft. Whys this a factor? Well the higher you go the harder it is for the plane to climb. So at mile and a half above sea level, they're not going to have a full payload, just for the sake of being able to lift-off before the end of the runway. so make it more like 1.5-2 tons......if any at all. I'm a pilot and ask and other pilot on this forum cause I know there are some and they'll totally back me up on this.
They say this thing was carrying 6 tons of cocaine. Yeah thats great. to bad the Gulfstreams maximum payload 5,456lbs. OH MAN, SOMEONE CANT DO MENTAL MATH. There's a reason Fedex doesnt use Gulfstreams for package delivery. They're designed to shuttle people in suits with briefcases NOT Cargo. oh yeah, thats not including the Pilot and Copilot so drop it down to a 5,000lb or 2.5 tons. Second, they have this stupid "flight plan" starting at Bogota, which has an elevation of about 8,000ft. Whys this a factor? Well the higher you go the harder it is for the plane to climb. So at mile and a half above sea level, they're not going to have a full payload, just for the sake of being able to lift-off before the end of the runway. so make it more like 1.5-2 tons......if any at all. I'm a pilot and ask and other pilot on this forum cause I know there are some and they'll totally back me up on this.----, you know them big timers dont' know or care about capcities. In their mind they are thinking.... "load dat sumbitch up!" "A captain, I don't think we are gonna make it off the runway." "bendeyHO... the plane is only half full, idiot! Keep loading the junk till its full."
probably the reason why it crashed man...
12-13-2007, 06:51 PM
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Re: CIA drug smuggling... again
Originally Posted by RacingTiger
This is the stupidest report I've ever read! Purely mind numbing! They say this thing was carrying 6 tons of cocaine. Yeah thats great. to bad the Gulfstreams maximum payload 5,456lbs. OH MAN, SOMEONE CANT DO MENTAL MATH. There's a reason Fedex doesnt use Gulfstreams for package delivery. They're designed to shuttle people in suits with briefcases NOT Cargo. oh yeah, thats not including the Pilot and Copilot so drop it down to a 5,000lb or 2.5 tons. Second, they have this stupid "flight plan" starting at Bogota, which has an elevation of about 8,000ft. Whys this a factor? Well the higher you go the harder it is for the plane to climb. So at mile and a half above sea level, they're not going to have a full payload, just for the sake of being able to lift-off before the end of the runway. so make it more like 1.5-2 tons......if any at all. I'm a pilot and ask and other pilot on this forum cause I know there are some and they'll totally back me up on this.
They say this thing was carrying 6 tons of cocaine. Yeah thats great. to bad the Gulfstreams maximum payload 5,456lbs. OH MAN, SOMEONE CANT DO MENTAL MATH. There's a reason Fedex doesnt use Gulfstreams for package delivery. They're designed to shuttle people in suits with briefcases NOT Cargo. oh yeah, thats not including the Pilot and Copilot so drop it down to a 5,000lb or 2.5 tons. Second, they have this stupid "flight plan" starting at Bogota, which has an elevation of about 8,000ft. Whys this a factor? Well the higher you go the harder it is for the plane to climb. So at mile and a half above sea level, they're not going to have a full payload, just for the sake of being able to lift-off before the end of the runway. so make it more like 1.5-2 tons......if any at all. I'm a pilot and ask and other pilot on this forum cause I know there are some and they'll totally back me up on this.I don't believe the story, or any news that comes from sites like the dailykos. Although I do believe the government has some hand in the drug trade. Maybe not at a federal level, but there has to be some local/border authority that is raking in ---- loads of cash.
The whole freeway Ricky Ross is a shut and dry case when it comes to the government allowing drugs into the country and the CIA's connection to drug running to fund the contras. Gary Webb's death was also a bit fishy, but inconclusive.
12-13-2007, 06:53 PM
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Re: CIA drug smuggling... again
guys were caught on video pledging support for alqaeda and saying there gonna blow ---- up and one of em gets off innocent.. but the jury cant decide on the others after alot of deliberation judge declares mistrial 
http://www.local10.com/news/14848243...s=mia&psp=news
my dad didnt do jack ----. never pledged jack ----.. never said anything about harming anyone.. never hurt anyone and he gets life in prison..
isnt it ------- awesome?
http://www.local10.com/news/14848243...s=mia&psp=news
my dad didnt do jack ----. never pledged jack ----.. never said anything about harming anyone.. never hurt anyone and he gets life in prison..
isnt it ------- awesome?
12-13-2007, 06:59 PM
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Re: CIA drug smuggling... again
Originally Posted by evosol
----, you know them big timers dont' know or care about capcities. In their mind they are thinking.... "load dat sumbitch up!" "A captain, I don't think we are gonna make it off the runway." "bendeyHO... the plane is only half full, idiot! Keep loading the junk till its full."
probably the reason why it crashed man...
12-13-2007, 07:17 PM
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Re: CIA drug smuggling... again
Originally Posted by buk9tp
my dad didnt do jack ----. never pledged jack ----.. never said anything about harming anyone.. never hurt anyone and he gets life in prison..
isnt it ------- awesome?
isnt it ------- awesome?
?
12-13-2007, 08:39 PM
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Re: CIA drug smuggling... again
story says it ran out of gas enroute towards cancun, thats 1400 miles from bogata, that plane has a range of 3800 miles so i am sure only taking as much fuel as they needed allowed them to carry more weight, but i'm not a pilot and don't want to debate this ---- because noone knows what the cia really does anyway, they report to noone and all their budget information is classified.
12-13-2007, 10:11 PM
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Re: CIA drug smuggling... again
Originally Posted by signorelli21
story says it ran out of gas enroute towards cancun, thats 1400 miles from bogata, that plane has a range of 3800 miles so i am sure only taking as much fuel as they needed allowed them to carry more weight, but i'm not a pilot and don't want to debate this ---- because noone knows what the cia really does anyway, they report to noone and all their budget information is classified.
12-13-2007, 11:12 PM
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Re: CIA drug smuggling... again
Originally Posted by RacingTiger
This is the stupidest report I've ever read! Purely mind numbing! They say this thing was carrying 6 tons of cocaine. Yeah thats great. to bad the Gulfstreams maximum payload 5,456lbs. OH MAN, SOMEONE CANT DO MENTAL MATH. There's a reason Fedex doesnt use Gulfstreams for package delivery. They're designed to shuttle people in suits with briefcases NOT Cargo. oh yeah, thats not including the Pilot and Copilot so drop it down to a 5,000lb or 2.5 tons. Second, they have this stupid "flight plan" starting at Bogota, which has an elevation of about 8,000ft. Whys this a factor? Well the higher you go the harder it is for the plane to climb. So at mile and a half above sea level, they're not going to have a full payload, just for the sake of being able to lift-off before the end of the runway. so make it more like 1.5-2 tons......if any at all. I'm a pilot and ask and other pilot on this forum cause I know there are some and they'll totally back me up on this.
They say this thing was carrying 6 tons of cocaine. Yeah thats great. to bad the Gulfstreams maximum payload 5,456lbs. OH MAN, SOMEONE CANT DO MENTAL MATH. There's a reason Fedex doesnt use Gulfstreams for package delivery. They're designed to shuttle people in suits with briefcases NOT Cargo. oh yeah, thats not including the Pilot and Copilot so drop it down to a 5,000lb or 2.5 tons. Second, they have this stupid "flight plan" starting at Bogota, which has an elevation of about 8,000ft. Whys this a factor? Well the higher you go the harder it is for the plane to climb. So at mile and a half above sea level, they're not going to have a full payload, just for the sake of being able to lift-off before the end of the runway. so make it more like 1.5-2 tons......if any at all. I'm a pilot and ask and other pilot on this forum cause I know there are some and they'll totally back me up on this.
12-14-2007, 02:04 AM
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Re: CIA drug smuggling... again
I already know its not true because i listen to talk radio and they tell me everything i need to know.
I happened across it and wanted to see different opinions. For the record I'm not a liberal. Closer to a Libertarian/Constitutionalist. It is a known fact though that the CIA uses gulfstream type business jets operating under front companies to smuggle stuff into the country. Ever heard of Mena, Arkansas? The whole cocaine sham has been going on for some time. While Clinton was governor of the state he headed the Arkansas Development Finance Authority that set up loans with which they used as cover for laundering in drug money. Hillary's Rose Law firm helped as well. This kind of sums it up http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...arch&plindex=0
Not to mention Hillary's getting herself into some ---- recently too but that's ok. The Clintons have always been able to pull strings and make things just disappear. http://www.peterfpaul.com/2007/11/04...otect-hillary/
