CenterForce Dual Friction VS Clutch Specialties
 

I have a turbo sohc vtec setup and I need a new clutch. I plan to put down 210-220whp once I get the clutch in and get tuned. I was planning on getting the Dual Friction but recently I found out about Clutch Specialties. I was wondering if any of you guys have heard of this clutch and how you guys feel about it. I am not even sure what kind of clutches they make so if anyone can tell me what Clutch Specialties clutch they reccomend, estimated power it will hold, and the price.

thanx in advance

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After seeing the Dual Friction in action, I'm not impressed. I wouldn't waste my money on that clutch. I expected some serius grab out of a clutch named "Dual friction" but it's just not that badass.
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Act XT/SS is another good choice ;)

I put a centerforce setup in a dsm once and it the pressure plate spring broke... maybe it was just a fluke, but i'd never recommend them again.

Clutch specialities is pretty good, only used their D-series on one setup, and I thought the pressure plate was a touch on the weak side. However Me, Beau and Leia all run their Duel diaphram pressure plate on our B/H series setups, they work excellent.

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Clutch Specialities hands down.... i own one, push 15psi, and it takes it on my sohc VEE-TECK.

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yeah me and a few guys have installed them in some project cars (B series) and theyre real nice clutches. Centerforce sucks ass

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I had a Centerforce clutch in my car and the Throw out bearing broke 2 months after beeing installed..

And before it ate ---- 3 months ago it was making a ---- load of noise in neutral ( all the springs on the disc were loose)

IN my opinion they arent worth whatever the hell they cost... just get one from MIKE CRX88 or whatever his SN is....

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thanx for the input guys
i currently have 3 friends running dual friction clutches
one dyno'd at 188whp, another at 205whp and last at 218whp

so if i were to go with the clutch specialties which one would i go for
i dont know much about clutch specialties and i searched on the web but thier website is somewhat plain

can someone suggest one for me please ??


edit: also i believe a member on here sells them, can anyone pleae give me his contact info

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6 puck; sprung

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centerfore doesn't make there own pressure plates they just put wieghts on a luc or sachs or watever. They are stock plates painted orange. I do belive they make there own discs though.O and they dont make through out bearings :P

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You can get a sprung or unsprung 6 puck. The sprung is supposed to have a smoother engaugement, but from the members opinions here, the sprung and unsprung seem to be the same. I had one on my D-series with 235hp/222tq and I never even thought about the clutch failing. It grabs like a mofo.
The only complaint that anyone has ever had is that there is a slight vibration when trying to ease from a stop to go. With these clutches it has less of a "middle ground" of on or off than a stock clutch.
A stock clutch you can ease it out and the car slowly moves forward and you can get rolling a pretty good speed before letting out the clutch completely. With these clutches, you will have that half clutch work just like a stock one, but once you hit about 5mph, if you still have the clutch half way out the car will vibrate. That's the only thing that you will notice with this clutch vs. a stock one. And the fact that it will take pretty much anything that you can throw at it and laugh. Price vs. what you get you won't find anything better. 88turbocrx sells them.

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yeah i run an unsprung one... no probs, the pedal pressure is just a tad stiffer than stock, 10lbs on mini me set up...

i beat it up and don't even have to think about the clutch.

best part is the price!

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thanx for the info guys
can you now pelase tell me what the ball park prices are for the clutch masters ??

also how can i get ahold on this 88turbocrx guy ??

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thats odd, I was told the sprung and non-sprung discs use the exact pressure plate. They dont feel very stiff to me, ask mike if you could get a upgraded pressure plate, like a duel diaphram version.

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I picked mine up from Stealthmode ;)

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thanx man
you guys are awesome

im gonna me buying some HMT stickers soon just for the amount of help and knowledge you guys have given me


please keep the suggestions comming on what clutch masters clutch and your feedback on it

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mind if i ask how much whp you are making and also how much you paid for the clutch setup ??

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has anyone ever watched that show reno 911 i think crx304 sure does look like that dangles guy that always those shorts lol

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mmmmmmmmmmmmmm........... KD Auberts

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Yeah, i'm sure that bolth the sprung and unsprung use the same pressure plate. i was commenting on why i liked the clutch pedal pressure. I personally thought that the CS clutch is a tad stiffer than stock but not as stiff as my brothers ACT, happy medium for me. i don't make enough HP to run anything heavier.

i didn't know that Mike also offered the duel diaphram version too. hmmm... just curious, how much more was it? and driving impression.

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i havn't dynoed my car yet, but my guess is somewhere in the low 200whp range. i got it from 88turbocrx (mike) about a year ago. I think i paid something like... 240-250 shipped.

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The pressure plate on the puck ones are a bit soft, but they take the abuse well...If you get a organic disk clutch from him you will get another pressure plate...maybe dual diaphram
Cause he told me you can get a 225lb/ft and a 300 lb.ft Clutch kit that has a organic sprung disk..I guess the 225 lb.ft has the same p.plate as the puck's and the 300 one that grabs harder so that the organic disk can hold the power down.
I just ordered one for a friend of mine ...

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I was making 300ish whp on a stock disc.. its all in the pressure plate. The ACT XT pressure plate with a stock disc is pretty damn good.

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im running a dual diaphram on a 6 puck sprung... overkill i know but at least she wont slip and its not that hard to drive, the 3 puck unsprung i had with a regular pp was awful to drive

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well it looks like ill be getting the 6puck sprung but whats this about the dual diaphram ??
how much power can a 6puck and the dual diaphram hold ??

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2x the tq of the single diaphram... double the pedal pressure also

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how much more for the dual diaphram ??

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i had a act xtss in my built mini me. thing handled 16 or 17 psi of rapings daily with no slipage.

i had a 3 punk exedy sprung sersmetallic in my b18b. i was so so on it, unfortunately, i didnt get to see how it handled boost, as my hatch was stolen....

at any rate, the gsr, will be seeing a act xt/ss

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You'll never need a dual diaphram. It'll just complicate things.

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ok im sold, 6puck sprung it is
now who and how do i order from ??
stealthmode or 88crx ??

also i am located in canada, will you guys ship to canada or will i have to have it shipped to an UPS depot in the states and pick it up there ??

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Mike shipped it to me, I'm in canada, Make sure he ships it via USPs not UPS, otherwise UPS will rape your ass on service charges

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sweet, thats exactly what i wanted to hear
mind if i ask how much the total was for the clutch and having it shipped to canada ??

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Centerforce isn't all that good. Once it's glazed it just doesn't recover. Mine was acting like a torque converter sometimes, stalling at 5000rpms before I pulled the engine out of the car for some maintenance and a new clutch.

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most organic clutches can be glazed pretty nasty

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actually does anyone know what material the d series 6puck spung hub is made out of ??

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copper ceramic. They dont glaze (as far as i know) and are resistant to slipping if they get contaminated with oil or some other lubricant, unlike organics

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call me a noob but doesnt ceramic eat away at the flywheel ??

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Bah, who ------- cares? Racing cars eats away at everything. That's what makes it fun. ;) I like replacing broken parts with better parts. 8)
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its not as bad as you might think

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ah touche