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sexyblackcrx 03-01-2009 11:21 PM

In car breathalizer
 
Anyone know how they work? I might be getting a contract to install and service them. want to know what im in for.

Tom-Guy 03-01-2009 11:32 PM

Re: In car breathalizer
 
Power, ground, starter signal or main relay/etc interrupt. Drill some holes to mount it on the dash so everyone knows they are a real booze hound.

sexyblackcrx 03-01-2009 11:40 PM

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Is there anything to keep a person from tampering with it? Or is it like an ankle braclet, if tampered a signal is sent to who ever is concerned?

lock-pop! 03-01-2009 11:43 PM

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just keep a sober buddy with you... all it does is interrupt the starter using a spdt relay

stenseltizm 03-02-2009 12:02 AM

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5 wires if you count grounds, throw a little metallic sticker seal over the clips used to install shows if they were fucked with.

Pretty sure it's just a starter kill relay with a glorified volt meter. Maybe if the box sees battery voltage on the starter it gets pissy, but more than likely it doesn't care about that and watches for power to jump from battery 12 to alternator 14 without it being consulted first.

If you get into this line of work, expect most of your clientel to be the medium to hardcore alcoholic type that are furious at the fact they have to pay you such a rediculous sum of money for 15 minutes of work once a month, while ignoring the fact you are simply doing a job and the gov't smacked them for ------- up not you.

stenseltizm 03-02-2009 12:06 AM

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and they don't send signals to anything if fucked with, they just datalog information about number of starts, times of starts, bac, fails, etc. Then you hook up to a pc once a month or every other month and download it all and report it to the dmv.

sexyblackcrx 03-02-2009 12:17 AM

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Nice! Sounds like cake, and any gov. work is $$

fastspec2 03-02-2009 01:24 AM

Re: In car breathalizer
 
Most also attach to the 4 ways and the horn. As you drive you need to update the test or the lights and horn go richter. So there might be a bit more to the install but its about online with a remote start. On the plus side, you don't have to do the cleanest install. Get paid good for it, they charge up the ass and its a requirement.

stenseltizm 03-02-2009 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by fastspec2
Most also attach to the 4 ways and the horn. As you drive you need to update the test or the lights and horn go richter. So there might be a bit more to the install but its about online with a remote start. On the plus side, you don't have to do the cleanest install. Get paid good for it, they charge up the ass and its a requirement.

the number one company that makes these fuckers doesn't touch the 4 ways or horn. legally they can't ---- with you while you're driving, only not let your car start if you fail or igore a test. You can pop start your car and drive around all day with it, I did it before when mine fucked up (yeah I used to be a fuckup back in the day if it wasn't already obvious)

But you're right they're not always pie. If you do get someone as a client that isn't driving some older beater they can afford to trash regularly on weekend binges (95% of rides I saw waiting in line for service) the newer cars may require some trickery to keep anti-theft systems happy.

spiralout112 03-02-2009 02:30 AM

Re: In car breathalizer
 
There a pain in the ass to get working i can tell you that. We've had to work on a couple cars with those in them and my boss tried for a half hour to get it started, then gave up and told me to get it going. 20mins of trial and error i had the bitch running. Pretty rediculious though.

lock-pop! 03-02-2009 02:34 AM

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after its installed. install a wire to jump terminals 87a and 30 on the relay.....

t_cel_t 03-02-2009 06:54 AM

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one guy around here was blowing up condoms and pinching them off when he was sober so when he was drunk he just grabbed one stuck it on the mouthpiece and let it deflate. i would also assume an air compressor or the air in a can would work.

southwest2118 03-02-2009 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by t_cel_t
one guy around here was blowing up condoms and pinching them off when he was sober so when he was drunk he just grabbed one stuck it on the mouthpiece and let it deflate. i would also assume an air compressor or the air in a can would work.

what a ------- idiot.

rexracer 03-02-2009 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by t_cel_t
one guy around here was blowing up condoms and pinching them off when he was sober so when he was drunk he just grabbed one stuck it on the mouthpiece and let it deflate. i would also assume an air compressor or the air in a can would work.

COMPLETE myth that this would work. You can google it if you dont believe me


Originally Posted by apexsilver06mr
just keep a sober buddy with you... all it does is interrupt the starter using a spdt relay


If you have a SOBER buddy with you why not just let him drive? It wouldn't work to have him blow it in to get your car started because some systems test intermittently while you are driving.

southwest2118 03-02-2009 10:58 AM

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some people will never learn

Smith-02 03-02-2009 12:41 PM

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you have to hum and ---- into these things until it beeps at you to stop

fork 03-02-2009 01:05 PM

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I installed them when I worked at circuit city. Super easy, simpler than a remote start, just a starter kill relay. We didn't have anything to do with maintenance or up keep, but they paid great, way more than they should.

t_cel_t 03-02-2009 06:14 PM

Re: In car breathalizer
 

Originally Posted by kvh
COMPLETE myth that this would work. You can google it if you dont believe me


If you have a SOBER buddy with you why not just let him drive? It wouldn't work to have him blow it in to get your car started because some systems test intermittently while you are driving.

really, i was wrong on the details

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-186650241.html

Article from:
The Wisconsin State Journal (Madison, WI)
Article date:
October 9, 2008


VILLAGE OF PEWAUKEE -- Police say a repeat drunken driver from Waukesha County used a portable air compressor and a balloon to get around the ignition interlock device on his van.

Because 45-year-old Paul Rupple had five prior drunken driving convictions, the device was installed that requires him to blow into it to start the van. If there's a hint of alcohol, the vehicle won't start.

krustindumm 03-02-2009 07:52 PM

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you do have to hum, that's why you use a balloon, just pinch it a bit. one guy around here keeps a 25ft garden hose in his car, it transfers the hum, but it gets the reading before the alky gets all the way through.

J-MAN 03-03-2009 02:50 AM

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i had one in my car for a year. never tried messing with it or figureing how it worked but i did have to go in and get it reset every now and then because they get false signals if you have an exhaust leak or are smoking in the car.


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