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I have the viper that has the blue two way remote, four buttons, picture of a car. It is garbage the remote has broke 3 times at 100 bucks a pop. That one is garbage but I used to install dei alarms and I had one that I uninstalled and installed 3 of my cars and it was perfect.

so dei=good dei two way thing=bad

And installing an alrm w/remote start isn't easy.

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What? Are you retarded? ???


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I have a clifford. It worked fine until I installed my wideband. Now the red light for my alarm is always on and it doesn't work lol.

Re:car alarms
 

That is just fucked up.

One other thing to remember is that the guarentee that comes with the alarm for theft and stuff will not be honored unless you have it installed by an authorized shop. The same goes for car insurance discounts.

Not that it matters to many ppl, but it is something to think about.

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dude its not cause of your wide band! the way to get rid of that is very simple! your alarm is in valet mode! to get it out of that mode you open the drivers door and press the arm button then the disarm button and them the lock button again!

so

open door
lock
unlock
lock

and it will go away! try it

that wiring on the alarm is not tied into anything diagnostically on the actual car!

Re:car alarms
 

its true that clifford and viper are owned by the same company, but the clifford is better than the viper line,

thank of it like
honda= viper
acura= clifford

the clifford is a little bit more high end with better features, i would goto an actual stereo shop to get a clifford though, dont let best buy do it,

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dud they are exactly the same! exactly not if and or but's about it! VIPER HAS BEEN AROUND BEFORE ROACHES

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oh really, find me a viper alarm that has the same exact features as the inteligaurd 750 or the avantgaurd g5.

there is a reason that clifford products are almost double what viper products cost, clifford has way more features.

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dude i install alarms and they are the same! exactly viper own them both i mean dei!

they are exact!

they are the same price for dealers to buy thats the sales pitch we put out thats to get more money!

the only reason that viper,hornet,sidewinder,clifford are not just all viper is for teritorial reasons!

if i have a shop on the same street as you and you sell viper they will give me hornet, or sidewinder, maybe clifford!

as for the intelliguard its the same as the 791xv

viper makes a piece thats called the 700xv and its made of kevlaar and black wiring that is supposed to be the best for security it has a collar around the harness so you cant disconnect it easy! also the siren has stealth wiring! they didnt even get hornet and clifford the same model! not even anything close...

dei makes all the internals for all of these alarms and dei was the company that makes viper.... viper is the mother company

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what comparable viper alarm has something like the blackjaxx cuz thats the main reason im buying a clifford, what model numbers are you referring to because vipers website list a

800esp
700esp
850vx
650vx