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con 08-07-2008 01:04 AM

cage specs for race tracks
 
Its time for a cage in my eg, what do you need to run a 10.5? I want something thats very streetable and really would like to keep my back seat if posaible :8

90dx 08-07-2008 01:38 AM

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6 point roll bar is all you need.I put a swing out door bar in mine and that way you can swing it to get in or remove it all together for the street.You can get a Comp Eng kit for $2-250 from Lordco,generic parts stores etc and its not bad for fit could be better but hey for $200.

seerex 08-07-2008 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by 90dx
6 point roll bar is all you need.I put a swing out door bar in mine and that way you can swing it to get in or remove it all together for the street.You can get a Comp Eng kit for $2-250 from Lordco,generic parts stores etc and its not bad for fit could be better but hey for $200.

Is this the one; http://www.competitionengineering.co...?CatCode=10361

MikeJ-2009 08-07-2008 01:50 AM

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All the rules should be able to be found at nhra.com or look up one of the sanctioning bodies and it'll tell you. I don't think you'll find a beter price than swracecars.com though. I think my 8 point was $160 before shipping. All of them you'll have to trim and kinda fit to your car, so might as well go for the cheapest.

con 08-07-2008 02:05 AM

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Matt and Steve you got any pics of those bad boys?

sloTeg 08-07-2008 02:15 AM

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i just got done puting the swracecars 8 pt cage in my ef and i would say it was a good deal for 212 shipped. should be legal to run up to 9.99 and 135 mph according to nhra's site.

MikeJ-2009 08-07-2008 02:18 AM

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Hate to do it, but the thread I made about it back in the day.


http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1268061&page=1

miss-piggy 08-07-2008 02:25 AM

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A lot of people complain about the SWR cages and their iffy fitment. I believe the Jeg's cages are supposed to fit better.

http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/store...erm=honda+cage

88dx 08-07-2008 02:28 AM

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I dont think ur going to find a roll cage kit that keeps the back seats. Im putting the back seats in my car but their just going to be folded down I dont want it to be a gutted car so the seats will be their just not usable. Ill take some more pics this weekend if u want, the cage is done now and painted. I Mig welded my cage but id Tig weld it if you have the skills to do so.
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/818/drz015bt3.jpg

Hitchhikkr 08-07-2008 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by sloTeg
i just got done puting the swracecars 8 pt cage in my ef and i would say it was a good deal for 212 shipped. should be legal to run up to 9.99 and 135 mph according to nhra's site.

+1

10-point roll cage or dont do it at all. A roll-bar doesnt cover the most affected area of a car in a rollover. The windshield area.

fork 08-07-2008 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Hitchhikkr
+1

8-point or dont do it at all. A roll-bar doesnt cover the most affected area of a car in a rollover. The windshield area.

8 point could be a roll cage or roll bar, I think you mean do a roll cage not a roll bar.

90dx 08-07-2008 04:15 PM

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The way i did the rear bars coming down to a cross tube strut tower to strut tower i dont think is actually legal but the tech guy i talked to said they wont really say anything for a high ten second street car at the friday night street legal races.

Hitchhikkr 08-07-2008 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by fork
8 point could be a roll cage or roll bar, I think you mean do a roll cage not a roll bar.

lol my bad I was thinking 10pt cage in my head but didnt make it to the keyboard. :1

88dx 08-07-2008 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 90dx

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u...build08003.jpg

The way i did the rear bars coming down to a cross tube strut tower to strut tower i dont think is actually legal but the tech guy i talked to said they wont really say anything for a high ten second street car at the friday night street legal races.

Did he say anything about your door bars? they look way to high?

90dx 08-07-2008 06:33 PM

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Well as per NHRAspec the door bar has to pass the driver at a point midway between the shoulder and elbow and im 6'2 and sit upright so that is per spec.

88dx 08-07-2008 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 90dx
Well as per NHRAspec the door bar has to pass the driver at a point midway between the shoulder and elbow and im 6'2 and sit upright so that is per spec.

U must still be using a stock seat?

Racintweek 08-07-2008 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealthmode
Hate to do it, but the thread I made about it back in the day.


http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1268061&page=1


very old, you arent living in japan in that pic :P

90dx 08-07-2008 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 88dx
U must still be using a stock seat?

I am i was thinking when i switch to a aftermarket seat i would like low mount rails but i think i would be out of spec then :-\ Do ITR recaros sit any lower?Im fairly close to the roof with my helmet on already.

HomeMadeTurboz 08-07-2008 11:04 PM

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The more I look at those pics, the more I wish that we would have put the halo, dash bar, and front hoops in, and made it a full 8.50's cage (or the other part of the comp kit). (In ref to 90dx's cage)


On topic: To keep the back seat you just have to run the rear bars along the roof and then drop them down after the seat. I have seen some pics of this somewhere, but my memory fails me. If you pick up an NHRA rule book, you will have all the specs, but most are pretty vague. The main ones to note are:

-The cross bar between the main hoop has to be within 4" of the tops of your shoulders, but not above.
-The main hoop has to be certain distance from your head both up and out. (sorry I'm just doing it from memory from when we did 90dx's)
-The door bar has to cross midway between you shoulder and your elbow, when your arm is at rest by your side.
-All cage points must tie into the floor with a 6"x6"x1/8" plate (this is where 90dx's cage is illegal as we tied his into the rear strut support bar)
-The main hoop may be leaned either forward or back.

A 5point cage: Main hoop (2), Rear bars (2), driver side door bar (1) All to clearance, and weld specs obviously. Is the min spec you need to run 10.00 or 135mph, the later being the killer for us fwd guys. If you want to run faster then that you need to add the halo, the A pillar support bars, the main hoop crossbar support bars that look like this \/, and the dash bar. Oh and a passenger side door bar and window net. This will bring you to an 10 point and then you have to get it teched, when teched it will allow you to run 8.50's and over 135mph. This sounds like a lot more, but it is only like $200 for the basic roll bar and then another $70-90 for the front stuff iirc + a window net under $50.


If I were putting a cage in a "nice" car i.e not a race car. I would get a I think it is a Ken's custom cage as the fit up is supposedly excellent, it is still a DIY, but a lot better fit. The Comp eng one is good for what it is: $190cdn. If you are a real ballar you take it to a place like Dave @ Passenger, and he bends that ---- up on site, and it fits perfect is welded perfect, but it will cost ya $$$.

con 08-08-2008 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by dvst8r
take it to a place like Dave @ Passenger, and he bends that ---- up on site, and it fits perfect is welded perfect, but it will cost ya $$$.

thats the plan but I want to figger out exactly what I want first and of course get a price from dave :P


Originally Posted by 90dx
Do ITR recaros sit any lower?Im fairly close to the roof with my helmet on already.

my recaros with vision rails sit pretty low.


Originally Posted by Hitchhikkr
+1

8-point or dont do it at all. A roll-bar doesnt cover the most affected area of a car in a rollover. The windshield area.

I'm defnitly going full cage, Ive rolled a hatch just like mine before. ------- roof caved in bad buy the windshield :l

con 08-08-2008 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by dvst8r
I would get a I think it is a Ken's custom cage as the fit up is supposedly excellent, it is still a DIY

link?

HomeMadeTurboz 08-08-2008 10:49 AM

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http://www.kenskustomchassis.com/Roll_bars.htm

dmotoguy 08-08-2008 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dvst8r
-All cage points must tie into the floor with a 6"x6"x1/8" plate (this is where 90dx's cage is illegal as we tied his into the rear strut support bar)

its legal to tie the rear bars into that strut bar, as long as the plates fit the requirements. There is a much more in depth rule book available that goes through all of the legal options. Have you guys gotten ---- for that at your local track?

HomeMadeTurboz 08-08-2008 10:46 PM

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The local PG track is pretty outlaw, they would let an 8 sec skateboard run... :X


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