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Guy-Fast 01-08-2004 09:08 PM

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Stealthmode and Onyx get a big thumbs up. Perfect example is a warehouse or factory jobs. In the previous generations these jobs would support a family even though it would be a struggle. Now this industry has been turned into a low income position lacking benefits, fair pay, etc. Screw Bush, people don't see the right wing agenda to destroy the current middle class and make the 1 percent of americans richer in the process. The tax cut which was bull ---- and now this. The theroy of the Bush tax cut was give to the rich and they will re invest in the economy. All this creates is larger savings accounts for these individuals. Give the cut to the guy making 18,000 a year with a kid. Every penny he gets goes right back in the economical circle.

traff1c 01-08-2004 11:00 PM

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---- everything and everyone.... there I win.....

What the ---- did everyone all of a sudden become political analyst over night or what???? stop arguing... and be happy you live here and stop player hating

Just be happy theres someone working at Taco Bell at 2 in the morning when your fat ass gets the munchies

MikeJ-2009 01-08-2004 11:48 PM

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Chris, it's a common misconception to think of tax cuts as for the rich. This is how it works.

Rich guy. Makes 1,000,000/year. Pays 3% taxes

Middle class guy. Makes 20,000/year. Pays 10%
(THESE NUMBERS ARE JUST AN EXAMPLE)

Now, it looks like the rich guy is getting cut a deal because he pays a lower % than the middle class guy. But if you do the math, this is what you find:

Rich guy pays $30,000
Middle class guy pays $2,000

It just depends on the way you look at it. Rich people always pay more in taxes.
And the notion that rich people SHOULD pay more in taxes is complete bullshit. It's just a way to punish people for being successful.

There are some forms of tax cuts that help just one class of people, but this form is the one people always "claim" favors the rich. Rich people don't get class specific tax cuts.

dlanda 01-08-2004 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealthmode

Originally Posted by dlanda

Originally Posted by Stealthmode

dude,not all mexicans are the same.My parents have been here for over 40 years.They have never once recieved any welfare.My parents pay for taxes every year.Never once got a refund.And they pay for my schooling out of there own pocket.

-David

David, I missed in my comments were I said "all". I was generally speaking about the immigration topic. I'm glad your parents have been successful enough to not fall into the catagory of people which I was talking about.


Well,it seemed that you were talking about all mexicans in general and that is not how they all are.But Thank you for clearing that up :)

-David

Guy-Fast 01-09-2004 12:23 AM

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Stealthmode I hear you but for me if I ever get to the point of 150,000+ a year I wouldn't mind paying extra taxes to help the samll guy but I understand that most people who make 6 figues are entrepreneurs who created their own wealth.

miss-piggy 01-09-2004 12:41 AM

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Stealthmode seemed to be looking for this quote with his long rant before.....

DEREK: Alright listen up! We need to open our eyes. There is over two millions illegal immigrants bedding down in the state tonight. The state spent three billions dollars last year on services for those people who had no right to be here in the first place. Three billions dollars. 400 millions dollars just to lock up a bunch of illegal immigrant criminals who only got in this country because the ------- INS decided it's not worth the effort to scream for convicted felons.
Who gives a ----? Our government doesn't gave a ----. Our border policy is a joke! So is anybody surprised that those at the south of the border are laughing at us, laughing at our laws. Every night thousand of these parasites stream across the border like some ------- pinata bodies.

Don't laugh! They're nothing funny going on here this is about your life and mine. It's about decent hard-working Americans falling into the cracks and getting the shaft because their government cares more about the constitutional rights of a bunch of people who aren't even citizens in this country.

On the Statue of Liberty it says: "Give me your tired, your hungry, your poor." Well, it's Americans who are tired and hungry and poor. And I say, until you take care of that, close the ------- book. 'Cause we're losing. We're losing our rights to pursue our destiny. We're losing our freedom. So that a bunch of ------- foreigners can come in here and exploit our country. And this isn't something that's going on far away. This isn't something that's happening places we can't do anything about it. It's happening right here, right in our neighborhood, right in that building behind you.

nigel 01-09-2004 02:54 AM

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I didn't read the article... and dont plan on it, but mexicans are the least of my problems. but you know what... ONE OF THOSE ------- BEANERS ------- JACKED ME FOR MY ------- GIRLFRIEND. SO I SAY ---- EM' ALL!!! THEY CAN GO TO HELL!!! THOSE ------- PIECES OF HORSESHIT!!!!

DIE ----------ERS DIE!!!

bambooseven 01-09-2004 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Stealthmode
I am a Bush supporter, but ---- his ass for this one.

ANYBODY, PLEASE TELL ME I'M WRONG. I DARE YOU!

you are wrong, for being a bush supporter ;)

OnYx 01-09-2004 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by bambooseven

Originally Posted by Stealthmode
I am a Bush supporter, but ---- his ass for this one.

ANYBODY, PLEASE TELL ME I'M WRONG. I DARE YOU!

you are wrong, for being a bush supporter ;)

LMAO

Civic4Sale 01-09-2004 04:12 AM

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Pres. Bush similar to california former governor Gray Davis. He passed a law allowing illegal immigrant to have driver license without being a US citizen. He just wanted the vote.

I think President Bush just wants the vote.


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