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Build Low budget Turbo Kit - without Ebay and shit. Possible?
Hallo,
maybe something in this direction was discussed earlier but i found nothing which fits to my criterias. here is the project: we want to built up a turbokit which doesn't costs more then 2500$ from reliable parts (no ----, we want at least a bit quality) and here is where it is complicated: we dont want to buy from: - ebay - junkyard - companies which sell bad quality ----. We want to buy from normal shops which can provide very part not only one time... we don't want to search long time for the parts... if its possible we would use a GT BB-Turbo but they are very expensive. if budget has some space a clutch would be good to have beacuse our goal is something around 280 HP from a B16 Engine. Many things can be made by ourselfs (Downpipe, Chargepipe, Manifolds) to safe some money... do you think this is possible, i know its hard but we have a bet to win ;-) and want to do everything to reach the goal. Engine management should be Crome or uberdata or so... so no FMU, Apexi or something else... Hope to get some links of shops where we can find parts to reach the goal. Thanks Malte. |
Re: Build Low budget Turbo Kit - without Ebay and shit. Possible?
hit up lsdmotersprots.com
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Re: Build Low budget Turbo Kit - without Ebay and shit. Possible?
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Re: Build Low budget Turbo Kit - without Ebay and shit. Possible?
intercooler price are good...
but whats about the turbo? they only have one... hope to find someone who can tell me a shop where i can get GT Series Turbos for less then 1000$ ;-) Thanks so far... |
Re: Build Low budget Turbo Kit - without Ebay and shit. Possible?
Originally Posted by mrx
but whats about the turbo? they only have one... hope to find someone who can tell me a shop where i can get GT Series Turbos for less then 1000$ ;-)
For other stuff go to www.tunertoys.com or www.--------------------------- |
Re: Build Low budget Turbo Kit - without Ebay and shit. Possible?
I recently was contracted to put a turbo kit together for a local shops' customer. I can't remember the exact amount, but adding up everything my site offers minus the bov and turbo (things I don't carry), I think the total was around $1300?
The true issue of saving money on a turbo kit comes down to how much you can fabricate yourself. |
Re: Build Low budget Turbo Kit - without Ebay and shit. Possible?
end yourself. were not going to peice a kit together for you. iif you cant find the ---- to build it for less than 2500 with all new stuff your a ------- retard ::)
do you still call your mom into the bathroom to wipe your ass? |
Re: Build Low budget Turbo Kit - without Ebay and shit. Possible?
yea 2500 is way OVER what it takes to piece a good kit together.
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Re: Build Low budget Turbo Kit - without Ebay and shit. Possible?
Originally Posted by rawr
end yourself. were not going to peice a kit together for you. iif you cant find the ---- to build it for less than 2500 with all new stuff your a ------- retard ::)
do you still call your mom into the bathroom to wipe your ass? For $2500 you can put together a monster setup, that will take you far over your 280HP goal on a b16a. |
Re: Build Low budget Turbo Kit - without Ebay and shit. Possible?
i will attain 400whp for 1500 dollars or less including turbo kit and fully built b16a.
i went back to my roots. HMT style ------ |
Re: Build Low budget Turbo Kit - without Ebay and shit. Possible?
Originally Posted by hotrex
i will attain 400whp for 1500 dollars or less including turbo kit and fully built b16a.
i went back to my roots. HMT style ------ |
Re: Build Low budget Turbo Kit - without Ebay and shit. Possible?
Ok not buy from ebay nor a junkyard. Intresting since both have hella good deals if you look and are patient. HMT is about the yard I think honda-tech may fit you better
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Re: Build Low budget Turbo Kit - without Ebay and shit. Possible?
Hallo,
yes its true that you can find some nice price things on ebay or the junkyard, but's its some kind of bet between a few friends. And the big problem is the GT Turbo we want to install... everywhere i look they are >=1000$ for a GT28RS i.e. i know a T3/T4 is cheaper and is good as well (i have one on my own car right now) but thats the deal we want to make... i know here are mayn ppl around who can build a kit together for very less money so thats the reason why a ask here and not at H-T... but if you are so good, why are you only tell me that this is easily possible... tell me where i get the ---- ;-) that would help me more... @hotrex: Sorry but i don't think its possible... maybe you can make a list how much do you pay for all this stuff? 400whp setup incl. fully build b16 for <=1500$ ... not with new and good quality stuff... but maybe you bring some light in your magic setup ;-) Thanks so far to the ppl who offered me some url's. Malte. |
Re: Build Low budget Turbo Kit - without Ebay and shit. Possible?
Originally Posted by hotrex
i will attain 400whp for 1500 dollars or less including turbo kit and fully built b16a.
i went back to my roots. HMT style ------ |
Re: Build Low budget Turbo Kit - without Ebay and shit. Possible?
Originally Posted by mrx
Hallo,
yes its true that you can find some nice price things on ebay or the junkyard, but's its some kind of bet between a few friends. And the big problem is the GT Turbo we want to install... everywhere i look they are >=1000$ for a GT28RS i.e. i know a T3/T4 is cheaper and is good as well (i have one on my own car right now) but thats the deal we want to make... i know here are mayn ppl around who can build a kit together for very less money so thats the reason why a ask here and not at H-T... but if you are so good, why are you only tell me that this is easily possible... tell me where i get the ---- ;-) that would help me more... @hotrex: Sorry but i don't think its possible... maybe you can make a list how much do you pay for all this stuff? 400whp setup incl. fully build b16 for <=1500$ ... not with new and good quality stuff... but maybe you bring some light in your magic setup ;-) Thanks so far to the ppl who offered me some url's. Malte. |
Re: Build Low budget Turbo Kit - without Ebay and shit. Possible?
mrx your a docuhe. Come back with pics and some knowledge. We actually build cars here not play behind a keyboard
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Re: Build Low budget Turbo Kit - without Ebay and shit. Possible?
the last car we turboed cost around 700 total, all tunertoys parts and some homies throing in parts. it was a nice BB turbo too. 13.5 @ 5psi stock LS in a hatch
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Re: Build Low budget Turbo Kit - without Ebay and shit. Possible?
Originally Posted by mrx
Hallo,
yes its true that you can find some nice price things on ebay or the junkyard, but's its some kind of bet between a few friends. And the big problem is the GT Turbo we want to install... everywhere i look they are >=1000$ for a GT28RS i.e. i know a T3/T4 is cheaper and is good as well (i have one on my own car right now) but thats the deal we want to make... i know here are mayn ppl around who can build a kit together for very less money so thats the reason why a ask here and not at H-T... but if you are so good, why are you only tell me that this is easily possible... tell me where i get the ---- ;-) that would help me more... @hotrex: Sorry but i don't think its possible... maybe you can make a list how much do you pay for all this stuff? 400whp setup incl. fully build b16 for <=1500$ ... not with new and good quality stuff... but maybe you bring some light in your magic setup ;-) Thanks so far to the ppl who offered me some url's. Malte. obd1 b16a longblock with bad rings---$400 nib eagle rods- trade for manifold, my cost--$45 used .10 over srp pistons----$200 devcon block filler-----$35 reused bearings------free full gasket kit------ 80 bucks basic machine work-----30 rack of beer ( dads friend) $13 price of fully built b16a 400whp capable-------$ 773.00 TURBO KIT mini ram manifodl made by me---------my cost $70 dsm bov-------freebie borg warner gm-8 turbo in mint shape------$30 dollars obd1 p72 ecu chipped with crome and conversion harness --- left over from last setup 3 inch piping for open dp exiting by front wheel-----freebie ( dumpster diving) tuner toys 550cc injectors ----200 intercooler----made by me powerstroke core----- 80 bucks oil linekit.--- pieced together from mcmastercarr w/ 3an stainless line made by me--- 22 dollars. charge pipes--- freebie, left overs from various installs GRAND TOTAL $1475 DOLLARS ( give or take 100 for misc costs) the key like everyone says, is how much can you do yourself. im my case, im building my own motr, doing all the welding and even fabing my own manifolds . thats why i will make 400whp for 1500 or less including turbo kit and motor. so there. ic an be done, and it will be done |
Re: Build Low budget Turbo Kit - without Ebay and shit. Possible?
Originally Posted by hotrex
Originally Posted by mrx
Hallo,
yes its true that you can find some nice price things on ebay or the junkyard, but's its some kind of bet between a few friends. And the big problem is the GT Turbo we want to install... everywhere i look they are >=1000$ for a GT28RS i.e. i know a T3/T4 is cheaper and is good as well (i have one on my own car right now) but thats the deal we want to make... i know here are mayn ppl around who can build a kit together for very less money so thats the reason why a ask here and not at H-T... but if you are so good, why are you only tell me that this is easily possible... tell me where i get the ---- ;-) that would help me more... @hotrex: Sorry but i don't think its possible... maybe you can make a list how much do you pay for all this stuff? 400whp setup incl. fully build b16 for <=1500$ ... not with new and good quality stuff... but maybe you bring some light in your magic setup ;-) Thanks so far to the ppl who offered me some url's. Malte. obd1 b16a longblock with bad rings---$400 nib eagle rods- trade for manifold, my cost--$45 used .10 over srp pistons----$200 devcon block filler-----$35 reused bearings------free full gasket kit------ 80 bucks basic machine work-----30 rack of beer ( dads friend) $13 price of fully built b16a 400whp capable-------$ 773.00 TURBO KIT mini ram manifodl made by me---------my cost $70 dsm bov-------freebie borg warner gm-8 turbo in mint shape------$30 dollars obd1 p72 ecu chipped with crome and conversion harness --- left over from last setup 3 inch piping for open dp exiting by front wheel-----freebie ( dumpster diving) tuner toys 550cc injectors ----200 intercooler----made by me powerstroke core----- 80 bucks oil linekit.--- pieced together from mcmastercarr w/ 3an stainless line made by me--- 22 dollars. charge pipes--- freebie, left overs from various installs GRAND TOTAL $1475 DOLLARS ( give or take 100 for misc costs) the key like everyone says, is how much can you do yourself. im my case, im building my own motr, doing all the welding and even fabing my own manifolds . thats why i will make 400whp for 1500 or less including turbo kit and motor. so there. ic an be done, and it will be done |
Re: Build Low budget Turbo Kit - without Ebay and shit. Possible?
its almost done.....
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Re: Build Low budget Turbo Kit - without Ebay and shit. Possible?
Originally Posted by hotrex
its almost done.....
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Re: Build Low budget Turbo Kit - without Ebay and shit. Possible?
yup
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Re: Build Low budget Turbo Kit - without Ebay and shit. Possible?
So rods, pistons, and block filler is considered "fully built" these days, huh? Interesting. ^-^
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Re: Build Low budget Turbo Kit - without Ebay and shit. Possible?
id say 400 whp cabable built would constitute fully built in hmt terms.
its getting a set of ctr cams also |
Re: Build Low budget Turbo Kit - without Ebay and shit. Possible?
why not use a precision sc turbo? theyre like 700-750 brand new and ball bearing.
just a thought. ive heard that those mtors are shitty in tegs cause they dont have te bottom ends that you want to move the car. any reason why you didnt use the b18 bottom end from the previous motor. not rippin or anything just wondering? |
Re: Build Low budget Turbo Kit - without Ebay and shit. Possible?
Originally Posted by boosted_hatch_216
why not use a precision sc turbo? theyre like 700-750 brand new and ball bearing.
They're not ball bearing, the GT series are and they're all above $1000 |
Re: Build Low budget Turbo Kit - without Ebay and shit. Possible?
Well if you have a decent auto junk yard, an auto zone, a welder or JB weld and a hardware store you might get by it. Maybe also a NAPA for shitty oil lines.
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Re: Build Low budget Turbo Kit - without Ebay and shit. Possible?
Originally Posted by Whitey
Originally Posted by boosted_hatch_216
why not use a precision sc turbo? theyre like 700-750 brand new and ball bearing.
They're not ball bearing, the GT series are and they're all above $1000 |
Re: Build Low budget Turbo Kit - without Ebay and shit. Possible?
Hallo,
i don't know if you know it but we have another problem. I'am for example come from Europe so if i buy things for a turbokit here in USA we have to pay shipping, taxes and so on... so is you take all these together you have costs of aprox. 200-300$ just alone for shipping. and what all your beautiful calculations ignore is my goal to bring all these together without trading, ebay, junkjard. i know that this is possible... and just because thats my goal i don't know why some ppl think they must blame me for this... sorry but thats kidding in my eyes. i know how to build cars, and its not my first car so don't tell me i have to get some knowledge first. the only thing i might not know until now are the cheap places to buy but thats the reason why i came here, in the hope someone can give me some advice... @hotrex: thanks for the list... but in fact that some parts are used and traded this doesn't help me for my project. but i have a question for the manifold... what material you use to make this manifold? i ask because when i buy only the raw material here in Europe and calculate the gas costs for welding i come way over 70$ for a ramhorn design. its truely impossible only if i take cheapest stainless possible but then i'am afraid that it will break and even with this material i would surely come over 70$ - maybe my problem is that many raw material is more expensive where i live... because things like CP, DP, Manifold, oil lines, are allready made by ourselfs... so only expensive things are only turbo, intercooler, and spareparts for the engine... Thank you very much for your help so far... find some nice shops with nice prices... Malte. |
Re: Build Low budget Turbo Kit - without Ebay and shit. Possible?
honestly man, you would end up paying an extra $200 on some of your parts for shipping. from your hallo and your name im going to assume you're from deutschland. I can look up some deutsche websites for you when i get home. but it would help if we had a parts list of what you need. have you tryed froogle or anything else?.
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Re: Build Low budget Turbo Kit - without Ebay and shit. Possible?
Originally Posted by highroller54
Originally Posted by Whitey
Originally Posted by boosted_hatch_216
why not use a precision sc turbo? theyre like 700-750 brand new and ball bearing.
They're not ball bearing, the GT series are and they're all above $1000 No ----. ::) I was just correcting wrong information. And the GT turbos are worth the price... |
Re: Build Low budget Turbo Kit - without Ebay and shit. Possible?
Originally Posted by rawr
honestly man, you would end up paying an extra $200 on some of your parts for shipping. from your hallo and your name im going to assume you're from deutschland. I can look up some deutsche websites for you when i get home. but it would help if we had a parts list of what you need. have you tryed froogle or anything else?.
you are right, i'am from germany... and thanks for the help... but from what i've seen most prices in germany are more expensive then in the usa, even if you calculare the shipping and taxes... thats why it is not so easy for us to build a kit that cheap then for you ;-) but if you find some shops in germany or some german websites it would be very nice to know ;-) because its much simpler to buy in my own country. oh and i don't have a complete list of what i want... its more about where to find cheap parts to pice a kit together... price is the most important aspect on this setup, so the components are not that important... Thanks Malte. |
Re: Build Low budget Turbo Kit - without Ebay and shit. Possible?
raw material is at a premium.
but i will not tell you what my costs are. you told me it couldnt be done, so the fact i traded and stuff helped me out. you could do th esame, but never the less, theres the list, the prices and soon ill post the end result. |
Re: Build Low budget Turbo Kit - without Ebay and shit. Possible?
Originally Posted by hotrex
raw material is at a premium.
but i will not tell you what my costs are. you told me it couldnt be done, so the fact i traded and stuff helped me out. you could do th esame, but never the less, theres the list, the prices and soon ill post the end result. but never the less, i think you have done a great work for the money... respect. when i have calculated my setup, i will post it here and then you can get some statements... Thanks for the help to all. Malte. |
Re: Build Low budget Turbo Kit - without Ebay and shit. Possible?
Originally Posted by Whitey
Originally Posted by boosted_hatch_216
why not use a precision sc turbo? theyre like 700-750 brand new and ball bearing.
They're not ball bearing, the GT series are and they're all above $1000 |
Re: Build Low budget Turbo Kit - without Ebay and shit. Possible?
Originally Posted by rawr
end yourself. were not going to peice a kit together for you. iif you cant find the ---- to build it for less than 2500 with all new stuff your a ------- retard ::)
do you still call your mom into the bathroom to wipe your ass? He has a very good point midest well buy a damn brand new kit. |
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