Originally Posted by random-strike

i think he does!

http://images.chevyhiperformance.com...k_engine_z.jpg

Originally Posted by 88dx

Looks like its going to be a leaker :P

Originally Posted by CoreyR

so 1 car is making a ton of power, which is hard to believe its making 865 torque on only 13.5psi on a 76MM turbo. whatever its still only 1 car and im still right about a bigger motor being less stressed at that power level.

Originally Posted by 88dx

Looks like its going to be a leaker :P

Originally Posted by Lowerit

See thats typical GM build quality ...1/2 the motor is missing....

and where's the Vtec?

Originally Posted by Lowerit

See thats typical GM build quality ...1/2 the motor is missing....

and where's the Vtec?

Originally Posted by Lowerit

which one of us do you think has had more experience??

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3...y/DSCN0112.jpg

the 100K porsche has puked out 2 motors costing more than you make in 4 years.


the Shitty build quality low tech vette has within 5hp stock for stock ... more miles on it needed a tire sensors


your a ------ little puke that thinks he has a notion of what the ---- he is talking about. You assume because you have had some quick cars you know it all.. Yipppeeedeee ------ doo ... I would bet all you have ever owned is hondas , there fore they are the best in the universe.. Now we are gonna get some BS story about how you had XYZ car (it will be a GM) and it was a huge POS and how much better your hondas have been ..

Don't get me wrong , we have had NSX's and civics and other hondas ...they kick ass.. but are you really that nieve and closed minded to think that they have some magical engineering dept that makes them better than everyone else??

you need to read something other than a honda forum.. you sound like an uneducated retard when you say the same thing over and over.. People even try to explain it to you in the most rudeimentary of fashions , but you still can't comprehend it..

U need a ------ picture??

Originally Posted by CoreyR

im still having a hard time trying to figure out your point?

my point other then GMs being garbage which is a fact, is that a larger motor is less stressed at the same power levels of a smaller displacement motor making the same power. did you want to dispute that fact or what?

and my info comes from a friend who was a GM tech, i think he knows a LITTLE bit more about GM's then you do. he was the only person at his dealship that worked on vettes, trust me they arent as reliable as yours is.

Originally Posted by 88dx

U think im jokking?

Lowerit Ur pic sucks we need those cars doing Burnouts HMT style :6

Originally Posted by random-strike

oooo hes at the final liberal arguement style stage before giving up. the "playing down" card. this is where he half admits the truth but then plays it down like its not a big deal.

you just admited that we're right, the bigger motor is less stressed and more reliable at higher power levels. thanks for playing

yea this one has some oil leakage problems. the old men at GM fell asleep half way while engineering the best engine platform ever created in 15 weeks

Originally Posted by random-strike

hey corey AAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR RRRRRRRRr

i bet the camaros and GTOs are more reliable than the vettes huh

Originally Posted by CoreyR

you ------- retard you were just arguing that its NOT less stressed. way to change your stance after you get owned.

Originally Posted by Lowerit

U seem to be turning down your tone a little..

My point was that U never know who you are arguing with and while I do applaud the cars you have built and recognize the fact that you must be fairly intelligent having built them... there are people in the world more intelligent than you and with more experience.


we have destroyed this Boxster thread.

Originally Posted by CoreyR

just remember: i run your life, bitch :6

i take it you get my point then?

and FYI im in the market for a GM product anyways, but when you get retards like johnny i have to argue a point. i would do the same thing to a honda owner spewing garbage equally as stupid. im not as biased as johnny

Originally Posted by random-strike

ls1tech.com

ls1.com

etc...

there is a huge difference between the stress at 300rwhp and 600rwhp. go ahead and pull the ricer arguement that the engine is bigger, but its still more reliable at high power levels.

your ricer arguemnet about double stock output doesn't work, thats like saying if i take a 1hp motor and make 4hp its better than honda engine cause i just quadrupled the power.

its very difficult to explain to someone who really has very little engine building or racing experience about stress levels, sure you can be a ricer and say ooo double the power from stock, but doubling 300whp and doubling 150whp are soo very different.

its very easy to double 150hp, much harder to double 300. the stress levels at 600whp is probably 20x that of 300whp, not double as the power output would indicate to someone's knee jerk reaction... so your arguemnet is basically irrelevant

Originally Posted by CoreyR

i hope so, otherwise that dealship is retarded. who sells a time bomb with a warranty :1

Originally Posted by random-strike

clueless. clown.

better find a camaro with about 10k miles on it because EvErYOnE KnOWZ Da CarZ EnIGnERrrEZZZED ToO EpXolOPdEz At 100k

Originally Posted by random-strike

which was? all cars have electronics go out. just search honda-tech and look at the literally thousands of threads about some little thing going bad. its not a GM thing

Originally Posted by CoreyR

theres you saying a a smaller motor isnt more stressed at higher power levels.

600WHP on a LARGE V8 is not 20x the stress of 300WHP on a SMALL displacemnt 4 cylinder.

you=owned

Originally Posted by rawr

Everything that shouldn't. Wiper motors/turn signal relays/heat controls/ecu's/headlight motors/crank position sensors, about 20 times/other random crap. Out of the 5 cars in my driveway right now, the newest one, a 2004 gm, Buick to be exact, is the only one laying there dead. Got all it's maintience, it's my moms car, she grandma'd the hell out of it and it still ---- out. And i'm not just trying to bash domestics, the other cars in the driveway are a mid 90's dodge quarter ton truck, my 87 celica which everything still works flawlessly on :-X, 70 ford falcon and a 94 mercury mountaineer.

Originally Posted by random-strike

actually it is.

stress levels don't go up at a 1:1 ratio when compared to horsepower.

if you made a graph of stress levels compared to horsepower it would look like a 1000rwhp supra dyno.

and yes, bigger engines are more reliable at high power levels BECAUSE THEY CAN WITHSTAND THE STRESS. thats why they are bigger, the stress is still there, they can just take it.

Originally Posted by CoreyR

whos says im even getting a camaro. C5 vettes are going cheap these days, so are LS2 GTO's :6

Originally Posted by CoreyR

um no ---- it should be more reliable. and how do you figure its not a 1:1. technically the motor is 3 times the size. so it has triple the displacement and twice the cylinders. the the stress at 600 should be comparable to a honda motor making, and well be leinent 350WHP.

Originally Posted by random-strike

so you better find one with 10k miles, since they are engineering to blow up right when they cross 100k.

unless c5 vettes and GTOs are more reliable than camaros...

Originally Posted by rawr

Everything that shouldn't. Wiper motors/turn signal relays/heat controls/ecu's/headlight motors/crank position sensors, about 20 times/other random crap. Out of the 5 cars in my driveway right now, the newest one, a 2004 gm, Buick to be exact, is the only one laying there dead. Got all it's maintience, it's my moms car, she grandma'd the hell out of it and it still ---- out. And i'm not just trying to bash domestics, the other cars in the driveway are a mid 90's dodge quarter ton truck, my 87 celica which everything still works flawlessly on :-X, 70 ford falcon and a 94 mercury mountaineer.

Originally Posted by CoreyR

trust me i plan on finding a car with less then 100K. as much as id like a reason to put piston and rods in it im not gonna spend 18K on a car that needs a motor rebuild.

you cant seriously believe a LS1 with 100K is going to be reliable with a bunch of mods, because obviously i dont plan to leave it stock.

Originally Posted by random-strike

this is where a fundamental understanding about how engines work is needed.

technically the work being done is the same, since the engine is larger the stress is ------ out making the engine more reliable because each part in the engine is less stressed. the overall stress is the same.

Originally Posted by CoreyR

they are not going to be stressed the same at the same power levels. the overall stress on a LS1 with 350HP is not the same as a honda with 350HP. the honda motor has to do more work (higher cylinder pressure, higher RPM) to make the same power as an LS therefore it is stressed more.

Originally Posted by highroller54

everything I do at work is stupid ------- ---- on demestics that never should fail as early as they do, chevy is the worst. I make most of my money on gm products.

Originally Posted by random-strike

my moms camary has 140k i believe and it needs lots of stuff, and its seriously the biggest peice of ---- ive ever seen.

Originally Posted by dtrain

my dad's/now my 97 avalon has 250000 miles on it.....still on factory timing belt....the most repair work i have done to it is replacement brakes and battery.....now granted its in bad need of new suspension, but thats because my dad flies over speed bumps and 20-30 mph......and the roads are shitty. im replacing those this spring and i might change the belts

Originally Posted by random-strike

but her camary has 100k less mles, and needs CV joints, tie rods, and wheel bearings. at about 140k i can understand the cv joints, but the tie rods and wheel bearings? its not really a common thing, but it happens ON ALL CARS.

Originally Posted by 88dx

Camarys are the best selling cars for a reason :l Tie rods arnt very common on imports compared to domestic but everything can fail and its more of the roads

Originally Posted by random-strike

but her camary has 100k less mles, and needs CV joints, tie rods, and wheel bearings. the trans makes noise and shifts very crappy and oil is always down at least a quart every change at about 140k i can understand the cv joints, but the tie rods and wheel bearings? its not really a common thing, but it happens ON ALL CARS.

Originally Posted by random-strike

so you've admitted that all cars have problems including imports and domestics. thanks :)

Originally Posted by random-strike

your experience is not typical. but im sorry you've had bad luck. you can go out and find lots of cars with no problems, and lots of cars with problems. all cars have problems. even imports.