Bike opinion help
 

hey,

ive been looking at two R6's, both the same price, one is a 2003 ( red with white detailing )on carbs, and only has 2000miles on it! the other is a 2004 ( red with black detailing ) on injection, but is like a facelift model with different fairings, and new style head lights, both are really clean bikes! im unsure of the mileage on the 2004,

the only other difference is the 03 has the delta box 2 chassis and the 04 has the delta box 3 chassis,

they are both the same price,
i took the one on carbs out today, the injection model had a flat battery, but will be testing it out

anyone own or have experience with either of the above? i am looking to buy asap, just looking for some opinions!

cheers,
Ross

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I think if you pump your flat battery up to 32 psi it will be fine

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My buddy has an older 97-98 r6 and i love that bike, the advantage of the carb bikes is that you can get a jet kit and haul ass while the computer chip kits are ------- expensive as hell for the FI models.. the newer r6 on the new chassis is a better bike as far as handeling is concerned and its fast as ---- stock, if i were you i would just get the 04 and slip on exhaust and leave it alone. Remeber bikes arent cars, if they pull close to a 10sec 1/4 mile stock you should leave that ---- alone, you dont need to go any faster

just my $000000000.02 how much r u going to be paying for it?

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Buy a ZX14R

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ya,thats a good beginner bike, if you get an r6 you should also open a american eagle credit card acount :8

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doesn't it make more sense to buy the newer bike for the same price, and isn't injection better than carbs??

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^^^That's the truth. :y

But being around bikes all my life, unless you're ready to push the bikes as they should be, both will be suited just fine for street riding. There really were just a few small changes between 03 and 04 to the rest of the bike.

You can add a slip-on to either bike and only have to richen up the carb'd bike a little to run it that way. The 04 will pick up the slack automatically. Most people make the mistake of adding a slip-on and adding a stage 3 jet kit and then can't figure out why their bike is running so rich and isn't making any power.

With the 04, a Power Commander will accomplish the same, only from a laptop. You'll pay in the $2-300 for a Power Commander, but don't have the hassle of pulling the carbs to rejet, and have a pretty wide range of adjustment. Base maps are easy to find on the R6 forum too.

I would say at this point, it's all on how much you want to spend, and how much you want to work on your bike.

If you do pick up the 03, call up Dynojet, they have a pretty good base to start from on their tech line with regards to a rejet for wherever you live. I use them all the time when I get a bike I haven't put a jet kit into in the shop.

Just my 2 cents. Good luck with the bike.

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cheers for the replies,

they are both £3800, about $6600ish?

i live on the isle of man in the UK, dunno if anyone is familiar with the TT races/mountain circuit, there are no speed limits on lots of roads, lol, so the bike would be getting used properly, but riden on the streets as well,

obviously both have there pros and cons, im not too fussed about making it that much faster just now, as its fast as ---- as mentioned,

ill get that battery pumped up to a sound 32psi :8 and take it for a ride and see if i notice any difference,

Ross

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get a 1987 gsxr 750 slingshot and througha turbo in it

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Lucky son of a bitch! :o I don't think anyone who has been around bikes doesn't know about the Isle of Man. It's on my life list of things to see I can tell you that.

$6600 is a decent price on both of those bikes. With living there, I'd shoot for the 04. The suspensions are both ok for some quick street riding since the changes coming into 03, and the stiffer frame of the 04 will surely be felt. With a little suspension work and a set of Metzler Rennsports or Dunlop D208GP's and you'll have a hell of a bike for those roads.

I have a question for you, are there a lot of bike shops on the island? And are parts a pain in the ass to get?

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Carbs are definitely higher maintenance. On the other hand. I would rather fix/own a carbed bike with a stater/magnito. Than a fuely bike with an ECM/ignition coils/fuel pump/cps/tps/map sensor/, any day of the week.

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@ lennyj

yeah there are lots of bikes shops over here, lol, we have a main dealer for almost every big manufacturer, so getting parts is pretty easy, as long as its in available across ( mainland UK ) we can have it here in a few days,

the island is pretty bike mad, so that helps trade alot,

i was talking to some people at some party last night, and they have had both bikes and they thought the carbed bike was a bit more aggressive when it came to power delivery, they seemed to prefer that, lol! as apposed to the injection being a bit smoother,

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ya but with the FI model you can get a power camander for about 250 or so and tune it how ever you want ..

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power commanders suck. people used to bring those in for us to install on victorys all of the time. They didn't know we had software that let us retune the ECU's.

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After 100 plus installs, I haven't had a complaint yet. Why would you say they suck? Maybe it's a Victory thing. I've put on them on everything from the ZX-12 when they first came out to a new V-Rod. Never had an issue.

Only reason I've had them come back is for a retune.

I know the PC II's had some issues with certain bikes, but I never ran into them. And it's only been PC III's since last year going into bikes.

Let me know why you think they suck? I'm interested to hear the problems you had.

As for the power delivery of carbs vs. FI, that was the big reason for the switch. The hit of power wasn't as strong with the FI bikes so it made for an easier ride. Only a little low speed lurch when riding around in 1st or 2nd on the FI's.

When it comes to business I'm all for the carb'd bikes :y. Quick rebuild time and not much that can go wrong. But the FI bikes are a lot smoother to ride and will eventually be a standard with the exception of some of the track only bikes.

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Because they cost like 400 dollars, and the bikes never ran as well as they did when we just retuned with the victory software. Wich our shop would do for 50 bucks. Or free if we installed pipes or something else that would create the need for a retune. And we had a couple guys fry their bikes trying to install it there selfs, but thats not power commanders fault. Just stupidity. Ive never messed with a power commander on anything else.

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Not sure how they could have fried anything, it's all plug and play. :-\ But I guess no matter how hard you try to idiot proof something, there is always an idiot able to ---- it up.

I've helped a few people tune thiers who were able to install it themselves. Not much to it.

Have yet to work on a Victory though. While I respect the company, I've never been able to really take them seriously. To me they are just another one of the host of companies jumping on the cruiser/Harley bandwagon. While they are visually appealing, they look just like the rest. But if they can make the money, more power to em.

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ya well like he said i don't know about victorys but on yamaha or suzuki's or whatever they work prety damn good and that is what two bikes is asking about.