better plaltform? tt 300zx or tt supra
 

which do you guys think would be the better car to build up?

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supra hands down, those damn 300zx's have their motors crammed in there and changing spark plugs becomes a weekend project. also its very hard to cram in much bigger turbos in there. Supra owns 300zx any day

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depends on how much you HAVE to spend.

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supra needless to say

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The 300z isn't that hard to work on, my mom has one and I have friends who currently have their own little gay club where everyone drives one, turbo & n/a.

I would say go with a N/A 90-96 300z then turbo it. The motors have a bit higher compression then the turbo ones and the rear ends are lower in gearing.

My brother's roommate has like a '94 300z N/A but with the turbo body parts on it (he was in a wreck and decided to go all out since he really wants this car to be TT).

You could probably nab a supra cheaper then a Z, I have a buddy who's mom bought him a '95 for xmas, I don't think she spent an entirely large amount.

just figured I'd give the Z some props.

-ryan

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Bah z's are dirt cheap compared to supras thanx to the fast and furious. ::) The supra is a much better platform in my opinion but both are capable of very high numbers but the supra will take well over 1000 on a stock block and is ------- bulletproof. And im not big on how cramped the engine bay of the 300zx is :-\ its worse than my dads vr4.

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im a fan of both cars the supra like teckno said is very capable of lots of horsepower on a stock bottom end. with the 300z its a very good car but takes lots more money to make fast its really up to you on what would you rather drive

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Supra TT hands down. I just love teh style of the car and how it drives...

But if you want to talk purely $$$, then 300zx are cheaper to come by and would probably be a lot faster than the price that you could get a supra TT for. In cali supras are still going for upwards of 20g and 300zx are around 10g's.. You can do the math. :P

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supras....
bad ass car.

condider a RX7. alot of people hate on these, but hands down, its a bad ass car. bridge port, and a 4bbl and a open header will give you a 14sec car to start with, before a turbo (or 2) and cheaper for that matter.

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Pfft why did you even start this post 300ZX for life :!D although tt's are expensive as ---- :X

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supra :D ;D :D :) :-* :P 8)

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no way, the supra is the import supercar, nothing can hang with the supra, stock forged internals taking up to 1000hp and bolting up to gm powerglide tranny's? can 300zx's say that, supra wins, the supra is in a class of its own, although they do cost a lot, oh yeah and you cannot get a NA supra and just put a tt on it, you have to do a shitload of work with the wiring and the feul management, a few of my friends have supras (those bastards) and i was telling him he could do that if it was cheaper and thats what he told me... Damn this turbo d series, cant hang with him at all...

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This better be a joke

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stock internals handling a 1000 horsepower? come on now, the engines are good but not that good. Personally i liek the 300zx tt but im more for Nissan anythign anyways.

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Its been done and proven many times.

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dont speak unless you know facts, yes the stock internals WILL take 1000hp and the transmission will bolt up to a CHEVY turbo 350 tranny (i think its that tranny)

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I actually like both cars. I guy i know across the street is selling his 300zx. But if i could pick it would be the supra you could make more power out of that car and i know i would have more fun with it. Plus its a supra. But money wise 300zx would be cheaper in the area im in. It just all depends on what you want and can afford. Just weight the negative and positive of the two

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the block or the tranny?

the tranny will bolt to a TH350 tranny?

supras can make 1000hp on stock internals... all the power is 500rpms away from redline so its pretty much useless (little exageration)

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really I think it depends on your use of the car. both seems capable. I'd only drive a 300zx on the street/track; the supra would be a weekend racer/sunday cruiser. 300zx's have a sexy rear suspension also; you want top speed? handling capabilities at x speed? flat out acceleration? Incredible feedback? A tingling in your balls when your car responds to your every whim and desire like some wanton nymph? .....yeah, so do I...hehe...

Re:better plaltform? tt 300zx or tt supra
 

Z hands down for me, T tops are teh hottness!!!

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300z's are not cheap, they go for insane amounts every day since they were such a limited production car. ---- the 350z, 90-96 is where the action is at. The TT Z's are pricey and hard to find with low miles.

So you're telling me the supra motor can just bolt up to a TH350 chevy transmission? If that's the case then the bell housing would be compatible with a TH400, 4L60 (700r4), T5, T56 and so on transmissions. Why the hell would you want to go with a TH350 when a properly built 700r4 is one of the strongest auto transmissions out there? Way better first gear ratio, slightly better 2nd gear ration and over drive.

Re:better plaltform? tt 300zx or tt supra
 

A targa top is basically the same except for it doesn't have a gay bar in the middle of the roof

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read sportcompactcar's articles on their project 300z.
I found some of the information regarding suspension behavior, and the cars attitude with 500whp to be interesting. It seems it has some "problems" that make actual driving of the car with over 400whp to be pretty difficult to handle if not addressed.

Re:better plaltform? tt 300zx or tt supra
 

i would think that would be true for any car

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i dont think they ment it was cheap just cheaper than a supra. I know over here in ohio its harder to find a tt supra than than a tt 300zx.

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I see 300ZX TT's for sale all the time around Seattle/Tacoma for $9-$10k good luck finding a MKIV TT 6spd Supra for twice that, let alone one in this state. Ever since I drove my buddy's 94 TT 6spd I've wanted one( he flew to vegas to buy it) and I realize when I do get one I'll probably have to spend about $23-$25k to get a nice one, plus the probable plane ticket to where it is at.

But to get back to the question at hand, I think we need more information on what exactly your goals are.

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I like both Cars, I would get the Supra, but As my budget is right now and someone gave me the money to buy a Supra I would buy a 300ZX TT and save the rest of the money to pay insurance...etc...cause I'm broke

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Uhm... why start with a weaker engine with higher compression? You want LOWER compression to build more power.
Also a lower rear end is generally weaker, and you don't want a first gear that's too low on a turbo car...

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I guess that depends on your boost goals and end results. I was stating that I would rather boost a N/A versus paying all the money to buy a TT one.

If you're going balls out then you're not using stock pistons anyways, so that doesn't much matter.

Many TT drivers swap out for the N/A rear ends, they aren't as weak as you think.

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read the articles. youll see what I mean.

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looks like majority says supra.

next question is, do you guys think the best platform would be the supra or what?

Re:better plaltform? tt 300zx or tt supra
 

Bring in the cressida!!!!!!! :P

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why?

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A good TTZ32 might run you about $7k and a real nice one around $10k.
they are bitches to work on but so are supra's. The electronics in the z32's beats the living ---- out of the supra's and there are some awesome people working on them for the freeware community.

Me personally i'd get a TTZ because they're cheaper; dont have that ricer markup; are more exotic to most people and can be made pretty quick for pretty cheap. They're also not butt ass ugly like a pupra and don't have a huge fat ass.
And the only reason people make rediculous hp with supra's is because they can run one big turbo. Most high hp z32's are dyno queens like poopra's they have USEABLE power and tourque that you dont have to be in the last 500revs to use (thats really not that far of an exageration).

buy the z32; love it; cherish it; and be happy forever.
oh and dont get an NA. The engines are the same but they're not the same; there are enough interanal differences and the high compression to make a turbo'd na die quickly if not uber tuned. plus a TT isn't that much more expensive

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My dad's friend built a Cressida with a 350 Chevy engine, it was his drag racer.

Re:better plaltform? tt 300zx or tt supra
 

SBC's are evil they will go into anything including little red wagons if you are ignorant enough :P. The cressida is supposed to be bolt on to the 1jz-gtte which would make that car a complete sleeper considering how ugly it looks :P

Re:better plaltform? tt 300zx or tt supra
 

SUPRA ;D


duh nobody likes to work on 300ZX ya need to pull the engine to work on the turbos :(

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WAIT. is a supra engine bolts up to a gm powerglide tranny. and my engine bolts up to a supra tranny .. insane

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Supras are very much dyno queens... But they are just UNREAL from 60mph+ !!!

Saw one supra got like 43whp from an Apexi CAI !!! Yea the intake might cost $500, but that's like getting a 50shot of nitrous with no nitrous bottle or engine wear and tear.

It really is a tuff dessision in the "looks" department. The supra is pretty bad/mean looking, while the 300zx is very sleek ( designed in 1989 and still looks "cool" in 2004 says a lot ).

The supra is just more reliable, easier to make power with, and can hold almost twice as much power as the Z ( stock block vs stock block. The supra block can handle twice as much power in "built form" too).

The supra maybe a bitch to work on, but the 300zx and VR4 twin turbos are the kings of the " impossible to work on super cars" ( I know I own a TT stealth ). I'd rather work on a supra ANY DAY vs the vr4 or 300zx. To be honest I think the 300 zx is easier than the vr4 since the 300zx is RWD, not AWD.

Bet you guys didn't know the VR4 block ( 93+ ) can handle 600hp stock, and if you keep your tranny/transfer case filled with oil the drivetrain is good for 10sec. passes...

Looks:
RX7
300zx/supra ( both so bad !! )
vr4

power:
supra
300zx
rx7/vr4

reliablity:
supra
300zx/vr4
rx7

fastest in the rain, hehe:
VR4
supra/300zx/rx7 ( default, they'd all wreck ).

cheapest car to buy:
Vr4 ( by far )
300zx
rx7
supra

cheapest to mod:
CIVIC WITH HMT !!!!

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PSHHHHH i still say bring in the cressidas 1jz-gte it's over sleper luxury pug ugly car : P