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traff1c 03-20-2005 11:14 PM

Best brake pads to use?????
 
Ive been looking for a pair of good ceramic brake pads to install with some new cross drilled rotors... but i have no idea wich ones are good or whats a good price for them... anyone have any info or recomendations that would be awesome websites or whatever.

con 03-20-2005 11:26 PM

Re: Best brake pads to use?????
 
I like hawk pads but I have heard people bitch about them :-[

90turbohatch 03-20-2005 11:31 PM

Re: Best brake pads to use?????
 
I have hawk hp plus pads with powerslot rotors and stainless steel lines on the front of my ef hatch. Made a hell of a difference in my braking over stock.

juli0_bustamante 03-21-2005 11:20 AM

Re: Best brake pads to use?????
 
i use walmarts brake pads :-X


kain 03-21-2005 11:24 AM

Re: Best brake pads to use?????
 
axis.


why would you go with crossdrilled? their pointless. unless you get bigger break s, then you are reducing the surface area for the pads and that ='s not good.

gon3r 03-21-2005 11:30 AM

Re: Best brake pads to use?????
 
cross drilled rotors and slotted rotors just chew up your pads faster. unless it is a race car, they aren't nescassary. i also use hawk hp plus pads with my prelude rotors with my accord wagon calipers. those are 16's in the pic. i can't get anything smaller than a 15 over them, and even then they have to be balanced on the ouside of the rim.
http://img160.exs.cx/img160/5813/brake39oa.jpg

kain 03-21-2005 11:42 AM

Re: Best brake pads to use?????
 

Originally Posted by weirRacing
unless it is a race car

lemans cars and most race cars dont even have them.

juli0_bustamante 03-21-2005 11:48 AM

Re: Best brake pads to use?????
 

Originally Posted by kain
axis.


why would you go with crossdrilled? their pointless. unless you get bigger break s, then you are reducing the surface area for the pads and that ='s not good.

yup!

its less contact area on your pads and its kinda like a cheese grader effect on your ----!

i wouldnt use those cross drilled ones you have if i were you. just get some brembo brakes ( non cross drilled or slotted )


Donald125 03-21-2005 11:55 AM

Re: Best brake pads to use?????
 
i`ve heard a lot about how good the hawk HP plus is.

bmaca455 03-21-2005 12:27 PM

Re: Best brake pads to use?????
 
The three types that I've heard the best "reviews" off are porterfield, hawk and axxis.

yayopwrcrx 03-21-2005 01:07 PM

Re: Best brake pads to use?????
 
if you're gonna do cross drilled do zimmerman- they're one of the only brands that are baked after they're drilled so they're stronger or someshit and pads axis is it

and what do you mean cross drilled doesn't do ----? they don't put them on the s55 for no reason.....

bmaca455 03-21-2005 01:14 PM

Re: Best brake pads to use?????
 

Originally Posted by yayopwrcrx
\and what do you mean cross drilled doesn't do ----? they don't put them on the s55 for no reason.....

They don't really do a lot unless your roters get mad hot wich they shouldnt unless your in a race type situation.

projekteg 03-21-2005 01:18 PM

Re: Best brake pads to use?????
 
if you've ever been going 110-120+ and get on the brakes, they heat up instantly with blank rotors and start to 'wobble', cross drilled/slotted rotors may not be the best for the longevity of your pads, but they make a hell of a difference in venting out all of the heat from hard braking :-\ i like hawk pads also, axxis are good but give off hella dust :P

yayopwrcrx 03-21-2005 01:22 PM

Re: Best brake pads to use?????
 
i thought axis was dustless?

projekteg 03-21-2005 01:26 PM

Re: Best brake pads to use?????
 
ha! they might claim that :P

Spenser 03-21-2005 01:57 PM

Re: Best brake pads to use?????
 

Originally Posted by kain

Originally Posted by weirRacing
unless it is a race car

lemans cars and most race cars dont even have them.

kain, please stop talking out your ass for christ sake. I could see lemans not using corss drilled/slotted brakes to extent their use, but they do use them, so you're wrong again. http://www.agequipment.co.uk/le-mans_2004/html/3.html.

and in the faster classes, they use carbon/carbon brakes, which means the disc and pads are all carbon and designed to wear together, although these are not slotted/crossdrilled these will not work on a street application, so you can't compare them to normal brakes. http://www.gm.com/company/gm_exp_liv...e00001WFC.html


kain 03-21-2005 02:24 PM

Re: Best brake pads to use?????
 

Originally Posted by Spenser

Originally Posted by kain

Originally Posted by weirRacing
unless it is a race car

lemans cars and most race cars dont even have them.

kain, please stop talking out your ass for christ sake. I could see lemans not using corss drilled/slotted brakes to extent their use, but they do use them, so you're wrong again. http://www.agequipment.co.uk/le-mans_2004/html/3.html.




lol. your the only person not prive me wrong. lol. i know what im talking about.

http://www.agequipment.co.uk/le-mans_2004/html/18.html

does that one?

what about this one?

http://www.geocities.com/trinomial_t...W_Race_Car.jpg
or
http://www.agequipment.co.uk/le-mans_2004/html/78.html

and if they did, it would be pointless. period.

alpalwal 03-21-2005 03:32 PM

Re: Best brake pads to use?????
 
I use the greenstuff pads. They're great

accordepicenter 03-21-2005 04:03 PM

Re: Best brake pads to use?????
 
AEM pads... big upgrade from stock honda

B00M3R 03-21-2005 05:11 PM

Re: Best brake pads to use?????
 

Originally Posted by alpalwal
I use the greenstuff pads. They're great

I tried those and hated them, dusted like crazy and only laster about a year.

I just use the cheep Autozone ones now. work fine, dont dust and last a hell of a lot longer.

Spenser 03-21-2005 08:42 PM

Re: Best brake pads to use?????
 

Originally Posted by kain

Originally Posted by Spenser

Originally Posted by kain

Originally Posted by weirRacing
unless it is a race car

lemans cars and most race cars dont even have them.

kain, please stop talking out your ass for christ sake. I could see lemans not using corss drilled/slotted brakes to extent their use, but they do use them, so you're wrong again. http://www.agequipment.co.uk/le-mans_2004/html/3.html.




lol. your the only person not prive me wrong. lol. i know what im talking about.

http://www.agequipment.co.uk/le-mans_2004/html/18.html

does that one?

what about this one?

http://www.geocities.com/trinomial_t...W_Race_Car.jpg
or
http://www.agequipment.co.uk/le-mans_2004/html/78.html

and if they did, it would be pointless. period.

you're a ------- idiot kain

.......... This rotor is slotted(your link)- http://www.agequipment.co.uk/le-mans_2004/html/78.html

you can't see ---- here(again, your link)...........http://www.geocities.com/trinomial_t...W_Race_Car.jpg

and this is the back of the car, not to mention it could be a carbon/carbon setup (your link.) http://www.agequipment.co.uk/le-mans_2004/html/18.html


needahonda 03-21-2005 08:43 PM

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Cross drilling the rotors does nothing but look cool. sloting the rotors is only there to help heat up the pads and rotor faster and to vent of the vapors coming off the pads. Drilling and sloting rotors IS NOT FOR COOLING THEM. thats what the inside of the rotor is for. I like cobalt pads myself. id rather stuff my calipers with tampons than that EBC ----.

kain 03-21-2005 08:50 PM

Re: Best brake pads to use?????
 

Originally Posted by Spenser
you're a ------- idiot kain

.......... This rotor is slotted(your link)- http://www.agequipment.co.uk/le-mans_2004/html/78.html

you can't see ---- here(again, your link)...........http://www.geocities.com/trinomial_t...W_Race_Car.jpg

and this is the back of the car, not to mention it could be a carbon/carbon setup (your link.) http://www.agequipment.co.uk/le-mans_2004/html/18.html

they are slotted. not cross drilled. like i said, breakl pads now adays are designed to not give off gases when they heat up like that. so there is no point unless thety are solid rotors, not hallow.

Spenser 03-21-2005 08:57 PM

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yes, they are slotted kain, you just said race cars arn't even slotted, and I clearly showed that they are.

and if new brake pads don't give off a gas, then why are those brakes slotted?

::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

kain 03-21-2005 09:37 PM

Re: Best brake pads to use?????
 
gah watever, all that canadian pride is getting to your head.

Spenser 03-21-2005 09:42 PM

Re: Best brake pads to use?????
 
---- canada

LSD Motorsports 03-22-2005 01:46 AM

Re: Best brake pads to use?????
 

Originally Posted by kain
axis.


why would you go with crossdrilled? their pointless. unless you get bigger break s, then you are reducing the surface area for the pads and that ='s not good.

Kain, when did you become an engineer? Cross drilled rotors can be used on regular cars, it doesnt have to be a race car. They keep the rotors much cooler then blank disks and heat is a huge enemy on pads. #2 Cross drilled rotors only eat up pads when the company who made them does a crappy job and leaves a sharp chamfer. Ghetto D, i would just run some pbr or axxis pads.

kain 03-22-2005 09:24 AM

Re: Best brake pads to use?????
 
no i didnt, i just asked allot of question about them because i wabnted to get some for my car. most of the people said that their pointless for allot of reasons

projekteg 03-22-2005 09:28 AM

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that's like saying turbo's are pointless b/c you're more prone to blow your motor ::)

kain 03-22-2005 10:38 AM

Re: Best brake pads to use?????
 
lol. not its not. thats like saying an ssac turbo is more prone to blowing your motor.

davcivic 03-22-2005 10:54 AM

Re: Best brake pads to use?????
 

Originally Posted by B00M3R

Originally Posted by alpalwal
I use the greenstuff pads. They're great

I tried those and hated them, dusted like crazy and only laster about a year.

I just use the cheep Autozone ones now. work fine, dont dust and last a hell of a lot longer.

the greenstuff ones where an improvement over my stock ones in the WRX, but only lasted about 8 months. I guess constant 120-130mph to 50-70mph pulls can be brutal to breaks ;D. I've heard great things about the hawk pads, I'm getting those next, I put stock ones because I needed them badly when the greenstuff wants crapped on me. but I really need to change them now.

I agree with kevin on the cross drilled-slotted issue. On my car and my driving style, I need them, the stock brakes on the WRX are very weak, the rotors heat up and burn quick. Again I do take the car to 3 digits sometimes so that might be why, but on a mildly modded car, like a civic, you don't really need them. I would rather have them with good pads, in case I need them, and replace the pads sooner.

bermanator 03-22-2005 12:01 PM

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i have brembo cross drilled rotors with raybestos pads and they stop like whoa, i just got them on a week ago though so i'll have to see how they hold up over time. so far they make very little dust though.

GenLx 03-22-2005 12:05 PM

Re: Best brake pads to use?????
 
aem powerslots and aem pads are what i'm looking into buying, i'll let u know if ur still wondering once i get em installed

kain 03-22-2005 12:11 PM

Re: Best brake pads to use?????
 

Originally Posted by davcivic

Originally Posted by B00M3R

Originally Posted by alpalwal
I use the greenstuff pads. They're great

I tried those and hated them, dusted like crazy and only laster about a year.

I just use the cheep Autozone ones now. work fine, dont dust and last a hell of a lot longer.

the greenstuff ones where an improvement over my stock ones in the WRX, but only lasted about 8 months. I guess constant 120-130mph to 50-70mph pulls can be brutal to breaks ;D. I've heard great things about the hawk pads, I'm getting those next, I put stock ones because I needed them badly when the greenstuff wants crapped on me. but I really need to change them now.

I agree with kevin on the cross drilled-slotted issue. On my car and my driving style, I need them, the stock brakes on the WRX are very weak, the rotors heat up and burn quick. Again I do take the car to 3 digits sometimes so that might be why, but on a mildly modded car, like a civic, you don't really need them. I would rather have them with good pads, in case I need them, and replace the pads sooner.

we use axxis break pads and braided lines in my brothers wrx. it stops like crazy. they only thing is they are mad hella dusty. but since the rims are dfark its hard to tell.

PoorMansPorsche 03-22-2005 12:24 PM

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http://superstreetonline.com/techart...mage_large.jpg

Thats an f1 break rotor.. right there.. its not metal.. it has no form of gas disapation holes or slots. and we can all agree that f1 technology is by far the most advanced in motor-sports. Kain is not wrong, you guys are.. slots or hole just decrease surface area.. if you want gas to disapate quickly.. get stronger calipers.

davcivic 03-22-2005 12:32 PM

Re: Best brake pads to use?????
 

Originally Posted by kain

Originally Posted by davcivic

Originally Posted by B00M3R

Originally Posted by alpalwal
I use the greenstuff pads. They're great

I tried those and hated them, dusted like crazy and only laster about a year.

I just use the cheep Autozone ones now. work fine, dont dust and last a hell of a lot longer.

the greenstuff ones where an improvement over my stock ones in the WRX, but only lasted about 8 months. I guess constant 120-130mph to 50-70mph pulls can be brutal to breaks ;D. I've heard great things about the hawk pads, I'm getting those next, I put stock ones because I needed them badly when the greenstuff wants crapped on me. but I really need to change them now.

I agree with kevin on the cross drilled-slotted issue. On my car and my driving style, I need them, the stock brakes on the WRX are very weak, the rotors heat up and burn quick. Again I do take the car to 3 digits sometimes so that might be why, but on a mildly modded car, like a civic, you don't really need them. I would rather have them with good pads, in case I need them, and replace the pads sooner.

we use axxis break pads and braided lines in my brothers wrx. it stops like crazy. they only thing is they are mad hella dusty. but since the rims are dfark its hard to tell.

on stock rotors?
I have to replace mine anyways, they are warped, but I might just get brembo rotors, and new pads. I've also heard about axxis pads on WRX's, being good.

projekteg 03-22-2005 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by PoorMansPorsche
Thats an f1 break rotor.. right there.. its not metal.. it has no form of gas disapation holes or slots. and we can all agree that f1 technology is by far the most advanced in motor-sports. Kain is not wrong, you guys are.. slots or hole just decrease surface area.. if you want gas to disapate quickly.. get stronger calipers.

what is it, some kind of carbon concoction? where can you find carbon brake rotors for the every day car? and what do stronger calipers have to do with venting the gases? if anything, they cause more heat b/c they're putting even more force on the rotor. slotted and drilled rotors do work much better than blank rotors, period, i've had experience with both. the whole 'less surface area' argument is weak, maybe there is less surface area, but less surface area with cooler components is going to own a little more surface area with red hot temps.

davcivic 03-22-2005 12:39 PM

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yeah that's what I think

wow I'm almost at 2000 posts, it's only taken me like 3 years ::) ::)

PoorMansPorsche 03-22-2005 12:40 PM

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no.. im just saying in regaurd to his statement about RACE cars slotted.. drilled.. what ever are not the best.. daily use is another story.. daily use your better off with a cheapo set not ment to handled 100-0 breaking. oh and its compressed carbon or something.

Spenser 03-22-2005 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by PoorMansPorsche
no.. im just saying in regaurd to his statement about RACE cars slotted.. drilled.. what ever are not the best.. daily use is another story.. daily use your better off with a cheapo set not ment to handled 100-0 breaking. oh and its compressed carbon or something.


Originally Posted by Spenser
and in the faster classes, they use carbon/carbon brakes, which means the disc and pads are all carbon and designed to wear together, although these are not slotted/crossdrilled these will not work on a street application, so you can't compare them to normal brakes. http://www.gm.com/company/gm_exp_liv...e00001WFC.html

::) hey Spin doctor, I already covered that. Race cars with metal brakes DO have slotted discs


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