Re: b16 swap vs. ls turbo vs. d16 turbo
 

if this is a long-term car, go with the b16 since you will have more room for improvement later imho.....otherwise boost the ---- out of your stock motor

Re: b16 swap vs. ls turbo vs. d16 turbo
 

Dude by 'plus a couple of hundred to put in' i mean mounts, linkage, misc. ---- like that. Def. not paying anyone to install ---- in my car, this isin't my first rodeo,hah.

Re: b16 swap vs. ls turbo vs. d16 turbo
 

Yeah the car's gonna be a long term car...you have quite a point. There was this dude from New Orleans that had a clean ass crx with a b16 in it that had headwork done and a custom tune, he used to run with ------ honda 600 cbr's

Re: b16 swap vs. ls turbo vs. d16 turbo
 

With that much money you could do a nice little build on a b18 for boost, and boost it.

Re: b16 swap vs. ls turbo vs. d16 turbo
 

b18? only if it has c1 or c5 at the end, or ls/vtec. vtec all the way man, if you going dohc, make it vtec, if you are staying sohc make it vtec. vtec vtach v-tech vtech vtek ivtec

b16 is the answer

Re: b16 swap vs. ls turbo vs. d16 turbo
 

2500 bucks isnt really gonna do much but put the b16a in the car. After tune up/clutch yes you need one/new axles yes you need them and the odds/ends your at basically 2500 conserding b16a swaps are in the 1500 range+mounts/axles etc. Wanna do it cheap and half assed well you get half assed results. Wanna play gotta pay.

Re: b16 swap vs. ls turbo vs. d16 turbo
 

if your wanting 200whp i wouldnt get a B16 or ls when you could just build the d and have more power than the b-series and it would be reliable just cuzz its biult. :y

Re: b16 swap vs. ls turbo vs. d16 turbo
 

what the ---- is with all the threads like this lately?

Re: b16 swap vs. ls turbo vs. d16 turbo
 

Can I get a mod. to delete this?

Re: b16 swap vs. ls turbo vs. d16 turbo
 

this thread would be really informative if it wasnt for all of the NA haters...hell, even the site creator himself did an NA setup..isnt that right jeff?

It all depends what your goals are, lets not forget that horsepower and torque numbers have little to do with how fast you end up going, torque is good off the line, but there is also such thing as too much torque which kills performance on a front wheel dive car,

Why is it that a 400HP turbo civic makes it down the track and runs a 12 and then the same civic but with a good NA setup runs a similar time?...gearing and RPM have alot to do with it, the D series shortest gear tranny is the Z6 as far as I know, and the B16 will walk all over it. B series swaps are much more durable in the long run, can take much more abuse and can carry the RPM's much higher and being a DOHC they have a wider range of tuning than a SOHC.

I say you go with a B16 or B18 swap, B18 swap is more turbo friendly and will put out some very good numbers, a B16 with a perfect RS will put out some nice RPM's..
I've seen gains up and over 200HP on stock B16's with bolt ons and good cams, all this runs about as much as a good reliable turbo setup. you can then push a B16 further, get a good tune and get the RPM's up to 9k and make over 240whp.

Sure eventualy it comes to the point where the NA setup will start becoming more expensive than a turbo, but you will still be as fast if not faster, for one, there is no turbo lag, secondly you can have a much greater powerband. hell stic some nitrous in there and have 300 hp

if youre really on a budget, just stick with the D series and throw on a simple kit on it, dont get too boost happy and stay around 180 horsepower, you'll be happy with it.