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I found this on another fourm and i think its a damn good idea. So you can sign it if you want! And post it on other fourms too if you want.


http://www.petitiononline.com/AH4G63/petition.html

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Good idea

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20 million people could sign it and it would do NO good govt does what they want to

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Sign this one too.

http://www.calborderpolice.com/petitions/

Illegal Immigration Facts and Figures

* 10.4 million illegal aliens reside in the United States.
(source: Pew Hispanic Center)
* Every year, 500,000 additional illegal aliens enter the United States
(source: Pew Hispanic Center)
* California's nearly 3 million illegal immigrants cost taxpayers nearly $9 billion each year
(source: Federation for American Immigration Reform)
* Illegal aliens cost the federal government $10 billion more annually than they pay in taxes.
(source: Center for Immigration Studies)
* Taxpayers pay $750 million annually to house the 18,000 illegal aliens in California prisons.
(source: US Govt. Accounting Office)



It's time to stop complaining about Washington not doing its job.
It's time to ENFORCE THE LAW and PROTECT OUR OWN BORDER...

Facts About The California Border Police Initiative:

* The California Border Police will be a state police force (like the CHP) established in the state constitution and under the authority of the Governor.
* California Border Police officers will be authorized to patrol the border and enforce all federal immigration laws statewide, including laws against employers who knowingly hire illegal immigrants.
* The California Border Police Initiative will save state taxpayers at least $10 for every one dollar it costs.
* The California Border Police will be sworn and trained police officers, not volunteers.

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here come the nazi's

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they'd rather harass normal people for $

then stop criminals that costs $

---- california.

i signed both

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signed cali one, i hate being harassed. i used to get pulled over like twice a day... take away the rice and its like ur set free.

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Yep, anyone who tries to prevent people from breaking FEDERAL LAW is a nazi. O0

I don't think people should get punished for robbing people either. (woo woo) :-\

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steve you know liberals only like rules and laws when it helps them.

example: you can't say being a fag is not normal (true) but its ok to say the president is a murderer (false)

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59% of California are nazi's. That's the amount of people who approved Prop. 187 in 1994 that would have prevented illegals from milking tax dollars through social programs. Of course the courts refused to give the people what they want claiming that Prop. 187 was unconstitutional to the RIGHTS OF ILLEGALS.

Isn't that cool how they break our federal immigration laws, milk our social programs, and then demand that they have rights? Even when they didn't have the RIGHT to enter the country in the first place?


And if anyone stands up for what is right, they're a nazi. lol

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HA!

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heh.. sounds like im on the same page as stevemode and johnny here, politically..

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Stealth/Strike '08 ;)

Our slogan will be: "We don't need dollars, we make sense"

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Hey, I'd vote for ya. 8)

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just because its law doesnt make it morally correct. would you rather see a poor kid selling chiclets in tj sick and full of disease or getting an education here and maybe becoming somebody? i want to see you put your kid to sell gum on the streets, with no chance of him even learning how to read, see how u like that. if i had to do something illegal to help my family survive id do it in a heart beat.

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RENR, I'm all for immigration. You want to come to the united states to better your life or your familys? Come on in. I don't care if you're black or white or somewhere inbetween. It'd be fine by me.

But that's the thing. There's the right way to immigrate and the wrong way. There's a process. I'm all for legal immigration. Illegal? I don't think so.

Also think about the threat on the mexican border for terrorists to go through. They need to make that area much more secure.

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hahaha have you ever known anyone that has gotten a legal status? it takes years literally years of waiting. some people cant wait that long. Maybe if the govt made the process easier i would support it but they wont.

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Yes, actually. My buddy James' parents did just that, immigrated legally. His dad is working construction and he has a stay at home mom, and they're both legal, and they've put 3 kids into college already.

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also

if you're going to immigrate to the US. become an AMERICAN. dont try and bring mexico to america. BECAUSE we dont want it.

leave mexico in mexico. become an american. speak english...

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Mexico being a fucked up country where kids sell gum isn't American taxpayers problem.

After 10.4 million of those "kids" are now here, I don't see a big jump in them "maybe becoming somebody"

There IS a legal way to enter the country, but nobody considers it. It used to be a great accomplishment to go through the program to become a citizen, but the government turning their heads to the illegal problem is a slap in the face to every single person that completed that program.

Because the country or the parents can't teach thier own children to read, it doesn't mean that it is our responsiblity (financially).

Even though it's just a law, it doesn't seem morally right for us to leave kids sick in thier own country that don't have ----. It's also not morally right for them to invade our country and expect all of those services (health, education, fire/police protection, ect...) to be provided to them by a different countries tax payers.

I assume that under Renr's train of thought, all countries that don't have it as good as us should be able to hop the border and start benefitting (The more illegals, the more it costs for them to have the same benefits, the more American tax dollars it takes to do it). It'd be nice if we could do that, but we can't afford it, and if we can't afford all, then we shouldn't afford any.

Exactly when would you like for people to not be able to come here anymore? When all of Mexico is here? Should we let Samalia, Cambodia, and all those in too, or?

With the low income average of illegals, are they going to be willing to give up part of thier money to help support more illegals coming into the country? When 10 children of illegals are born at our hospitals, it's covered by tax dollars in the general fund. When 100 illegals have babies, it takes it out of the general fund. If all of mexico (and any other "doesn't have it as good as us" country come here and have babies without first making something of themselves and contributing to taxes, who do you think is going to pay for that?

I understand you see the "we just want a better life" part of it, but you either can't see how it effects the economy, or you just don't want to believe it.

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And back on point, California is built to tax the hell out of you (modified car tickets, smog laws, car registration, ect. ect. ect.)


My previous posts should make it easy for your to put two and two together.

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I made that up too. ::)

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Quit it already ni66as

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Donald, you said ni66as. That's racist, and you're a nazi. 8)

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well first.. there is no such things as "being american" in this country your area is defined by the people who live there.. thats why the south is sooo much different the north-east/west and california for instance the reason why miami is soo spanish language oreinted is the people who live and purchase things there.. about legal immigration.. its impossible for a citizen of a lesser economicly stable nation to immigrate here legally without being an extremely rich person or having something else that would greatly benefit the united states. So for a gum selling teenager from mexico to possible pursue a better life here in the united states and not starve to death under the hard uphill battles they must struggle through in there home country to survive there is one modality.. sneeking across the border..

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if thats not a nazi talking i dont know what is.

you swear every illegals first stop is the welfare office. they do get jobs even if they get paid under the table. im sure your well aware of that. you contributed to finding them jobs remember? obviously their not the only ones that benefit from immigration.

uhh , did you forget cali and most of the west was mexico?

All you see is the $$ part of it. Theirs definately a lot more to it.

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Of course, but just like your signature, "nobody gets a free ride". ;)

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I don't see why so many people say that it is impossible for people to become legal citizens or legal immigrants in the US.

If you lived in my area, you would see that it is ABSOLUTELY possible. We have a huge population of bosnians, russians, mexicans, etc. etc. that are legal immigrants and hold good jobs, own good companies, and have good lives.

Saying it is OK to illegally immigrate in to the US since you have been denied, or are being processed, is just as bad as saying that it is OK to rob a bank because they refuse you a loan, or are processing your application... lol
Its rediculous!

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You said yourself that you would do something illegal to help your family, and we're doing something to help ours too, except we don't have to do it ILLEGALLY.

On another note, did you hear about the American citizens visiting Mexico THAT WERE DEPORTED?
hahha, what a fucken joke.

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It's ok though. The illegals will soon be offered amnesty as long as they pay $10,000. (for fines for breaking the law and backed taxes).


I didn't make that up either. :-\

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I just want to know when Mexico is going to get their ---- together. ::)

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whats the big deal against mexicans? i dont get it? Really when you think about it they just want the same thing we do...well most of them :-\

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They aren't going to. They're too corrupt, and they've come to expect the #1 import into thier country being US dollars sent back home by (mostly) illegal immigrants to thier families. They encourage their citizens to flee the country illegally to the US. The more people they can encourage, the more people that go, the more US dollars they send back to Mexico, the more thier own Mexican economy revolves around our money.

Congressmen in Ca. see the numbers the mexicans are working with, and in turn pass laws to appease them to make them feel like they are on the mexicans side. It equals votes and power for the congressmen, and for the mexicans it means more rights in a country alot of them didn't have the right to enter.

Ever heard of drivers' licenses for illegals? (oh, I mean undocumented immigrants. ::)) Arnold told them they could have drivers licenses to drive to work, but they would have a special marking on them to set those licenses apart from the regular licenses. The congressmen that wanted the bill (the corrupt mexican appeasers) said hell no. If you go to vote and hand the election judge a license with a special marking they'll know you aren't supposed to be voting. ;)

Ahhh, young grasshopppa. It all makes sense now. :)

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My problem is when they think that immigrating illegally is fine...

And I hate the mexican government. They're so freaking corrupt and won't help their own people... They have the resources to help, but the president's just spend lavishly on themselves and don't give a ---- about the people that elected them in... I'm just wondering when that's going to change. Mexico could be a much nicer place if they got their ---- handled... so far it doesnt seem like it ever will happen.

Blah.

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you have taught me wel sensiel..now i am a jedi

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We really CAN'T blame them for why they come here. We would want to also.

The real blame lies in our own government and the hidden agenda's of why neither of our political parties will touch this issue. I think the issue will be coming to the forefront soon, but they'll only address it when they have to, and they won't mean anything they say anyway. coughDavidDreyercough

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Exactly. But I still don't excuse the illegal immigration.

I don't think all of the blame lies with our own government.. but rather moreso with the Mexican govt. But then again our government isn't blame free, and of course they won't address it. That'll make them look like the bad guy ::)

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i can see were you guys are coming from but just keep in mind not ALL of themm are like that. the ones i know and went to high school with are actually pretty civil. They are smart and really cool to hang out with. I've only come across a couple which i felt wrong against. Like when i lived in the ghetto about 3 months ago and they hit my ------- car >:(

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Well, the mexican gov. doesn't really have much to lose. They're living off the US dollar anyway. If you have a fucked country, what could you show shame for?
The people that come here it's obvious why they come here. They really can't be blamed for wanting this, but that doesn't mean that we should allow it.

And then you have our government. We're oh so big on National security, yet our borders are wide open. It doesn't make any sense. Illegal immigration will be a major issue in the next election, and you'll see both Demecrats and Republicans singing about all the things they've done to prevent it. They really haven't done ----, but if the issue is going to come up, they're going to sing about how they are doing this and that.

In the coming weeks, many states will be declaring a "state of emergency" over illegal immigration, and then the ---- will finally hit the fan. You watch. ;)

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http://today.reuters.com/news/newsAr...-BORDER-DC.XML

http://news.ft.com/cms/s/d5e22c36-0f...00e2511c8.html

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