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crxmatt2 02-23-2008 11:02 PM

Any of you guys ever grapple with your buddies?
 
Last night went to my brothers and we had a bunch of friends over to play rockband and such. My good friend Joe is 6'3 205lbs of muscle, real athletic. and after drnking all night we decide to "wrestle to submission". I've been training jiu jitsu for a little over a year now. I'm 5'10 140 lbs, and skinny. we did it like.. winner takes on next person til they lose. So I take on my brother who's about my size a little more muscular and submit him by triangle in about 3 minutes. Next was my cousin Adam, who is about 170lbs, not in shape at all about 6'0. I guillotine submit him in about 30 seconds. So by now i'm a little winded, and Joe is up next. he charges in and throws my ass around like a ragdoll for about 2 minutes and roughs me up pretty good, dumps me on my head.. I sneak in a triangle but i'm too weak to really get much of it, he powers out. gets me in a headlock and wrenches my neck like a mother fucker and has all of his weight on my shoulders so i'm pinned. I explode and somehow in a scramble I take his back.. he's fighting like a sonuva bitch trying to get me off his back, but I got my hooks in.. work in an arm under his chin, and sink the choke tight. he taps and i'm exhausted and start throwing up outside. This was after about 7 beers mind you. Pretty good time just testing my skills and subbing bigger guys. They were all impressed and i felt like my ---- didn't stink. O0

EG-prince 02-23-2008 11:12 PM

Re: Any of you guys ever grapple with your buddies?
 
My friends always are rolling around, and i think they get a little pissed when I always pwn them. Jiu jitsu is pretty dominant in most grappling and ground fighting situations. There were a couple all-state wrestlers in my club when I went, and I could generally handle them pretty well because I had more experience in bjj than they did, though in reality they were far more experienced grapplers

stillnoturbo 02-23-2008 11:22 PM

Re: Any of you guys ever grapple with your buddies?
 
hmm drinking and you start getting close with other guys...really close. Call it what you want but I'll stick with drinking and getting close and personal with chicks. Must be just how you was raised. :P

con 02-23-2008 11:23 PM

Re: Any of you guys ever grapple with your buddies?
 

Originally Posted by stillnoturbo
hmm drinking and you start getting close with other guys...really close. Call it what you want but I'll stick with drinking and getting close and personal with chicks. Must be just how you was raised. :P

was going to post exactly that but you did it for me, faggots :3

crxmatt2 02-23-2008 11:24 PM

Re: Any of you guys ever grapple with your buddies?
 

Originally Posted by stillnoturbo
hmm drinking and you start getting close with other guys...really close. Call it what you want but I'll stick with drinking and getting close and personal with chicks. Must be just how you was raised. :P

lol, good point. I'm engaged though.. the funeral is in June

J-SMITH69 02-23-2008 11:26 PM

Re: Any of you guys ever grapple with your buddies?
 
i used to do it all the time when i was much younger. none of us knew any mariat arts, mostly wrestling

con 02-23-2008 11:32 PM

Re: Any of you guys ever grapple with your buddies?
 

Originally Posted by crxmatt2
Last night went to my brothers and we had a bunch of friends over to play hide the salomi and such. My good friend Joe is 6'3 205lbs of muscle, real athletic, real hung. and after drnking all night we decide to "pack my ----".

:X :3


buk9tp 02-23-2008 11:44 PM

Re: Any of you guys ever grapple with your buddies?
 
used to do that all the time but no beer involved.. meh

i think out of my entire group of friends only one kid would be able to pin me.. and i got him the majority of the time..

last time i did it i got a mild epiliptic seisure.. havent fucked with that ---- since.. :(

scared the ---- outta me :(

TorganFM 02-23-2008 11:49 PM

Re: Any of you guys ever grapple with your buddies?
 
JMU has a BJJ club I participate in. I'd say I'm at the top of the white belt heap at the bottom of the belts.

Pinning is for sissies. Real men lose by tapping.

crxmatt2 02-23-2008 11:49 PM

Re: Any of you guys ever grapple with your buddies?
 

Originally Posted by buk9tp
used to do that all the time but no beer involved.. meh

i think out of my entire group of friends only one kid would be able to pin me.. and i got him the majority of the time..

last time i did it i got a mild epiliptic seisure.. havent fucked with that ---- since.. :(

scared the ---- outta me :(

That's not normal you should probably get checked out

TheDocta 02-23-2008 11:51 PM

Re: Any of you guys ever grapple with your buddies?
 
me and my friends do all the time

its fun

buk9tp 02-23-2008 11:53 PM

Re: Any of you guys ever grapple with your buddies?
 

Originally Posted by crxmatt2
That's not normal you should probably get checked out

i have epilepsy.. but im off the meds.. cant stand em..

that was the last serizure i ever got.. back in 04

only had a total of 3 seisures.. and the last one was a mild one.. so im good.. lol

crxmatt2 02-23-2008 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TorganFM
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Pinning is for sissies. Real men lose by tapping.

+1

imburne 02-23-2008 11:58 PM

Re: Any of you guys ever grapple with your buddies?
 
Its always a good way of finding how your buddies crotch smells. I like to wrestle right after I take a ---- so the smell is intoxicating. I tend not to wipe all that good to help out.


I typically win ;)

crxmatt2 02-24-2008 12:07 AM

Re: Any of you guys ever grapple with your buddies?
 
I find it interesting studying the science of grappling and Jiu Jitsu. The science of boxing is cool too, it's just been much more difficult for me. I'm not strong at all and dont have any punching power.

marcj 02-24-2008 12:08 AM

Re: Any of you guys ever grapple with your buddies?
 
I'm a little smaller than you, 5'7" ish and 135lbs.. I've never taken any classes but I do like to throw down with friends when I get the chance. rear naked choke and gullotine is probably the easiest for me to pull off. never was able to put someone in a triangle.
would like to practice armbars and striking in general.

really I just started lifting weights on schedule so maybe by the end of this year i'll take it up as a serious hobby :)

TorganFM 02-24-2008 12:42 AM

Re: Any of you guys ever grapple with your buddies?
 
Yeah triangles are tough for me too, probably the being 5'8" and 175lbs (short thick legs). But what I've found out is if I can't get the choke fully I can still hold the guy in the triangle position and then either armbar the inside arm, figure four lock the elbow, or let him defend and try to wrap the inside arm around my leg on the same side and then I transition to omoplata. I've recently been pulling off the omoplata while rolling and I've found it's super easy from triangle. Every practice I seem to be adding new tricks, movements, and ---- to my bag. Like last practice we were allowed to start from the feet (university recreation finally said it was ok) so we went to Judo throws, which own. There's nothing like standing there, then seeing lights, then feeling the ground.... and then doing that to your training partner.

RotaryGeek 02-24-2008 02:07 AM

Re: Any of you guys ever grapple with your buddies?
 
yeah thats how i sprained my ankle last month. Got drunk and wrestled with some friends. Im 6 foot even and 180 decent build. The guy i was wrestling is 6'4 258, fat ass. Somehow i had him pinned and he just kinda flipped over with me on top and my ankle went funny and it got sprained. Still can't run on it yet but for the most part its healed.

Oh and buk, i see seizures about twice a week. It gets to the point now where i see it and all i say is that sucks and walk off. There is nothing i can do for them other than laugh at the funny faces they make. Im pretty sure this job is desensitizing me. Except two days ago i saw a girl i have been gaurding for almost a year now hang herself. That got to me a little bit.

salesmonkey 02-24-2008 12:44 PM

Re: Any of you guys ever grapple with your buddies?
 

Originally Posted by RotaryGeek
yeah thats how i sprained my ankle last month. Got drunk and wrestled with some friends. Im 6 foot even and 180 decent build. The guy i was wrestling is 6'4 258, fat ass. Somehow i had him pinned and he just kinda flipped over with me on top and my ankle went funny and it got sprained. Still can't run on it yet but for the most part its healed.

Oh and buk, i see seizures about twice a week. It gets to the point now where i see it and all i say is that sucks and walk off. There is nothing i can do for them other than laugh at the funny faces they make. Im pretty sure this job is desensitizing me. Except two days ago i saw a girl i have been gaurding for almost a year now hang herself. That got to me a little bit.

im surprised less people in prison/jail dont end themselves. i dont care how crappy your life "is" jail is worse. theres nothing worse then no freedom and being locked up in a cell and building 24/7 and knowing your not getting out.

does anybody know the suicide rate of people in prison?

89hatchsir 02-24-2008 02:54 PM

Re: Any of you guys ever grapple with your buddies?
 
I have had fights with friends, but it is usually boxing mixed with a little bit of grappling after they fall.;)

NVME 02-24-2008 05:02 PM

Re: Any of you guys ever grapple with your buddies?
 
It's only gay if you make eye contact.

BirdmanMD 02-24-2008 05:30 PM

Re: Any of you guys ever grapple with your buddies?
 
im on my university's boxing team. after practice we have a few guys that do mma as well as myself. im 159 5'8" and box at 147(welterweight in college weight classes) and can handle most of the 185 guys no problem at all when it gets to the ground.

P.S.- i got a fight against us naval academy coming up, ill post a vid after the fight in early march

ninja edit: crxmatt: that fight with gomi was awesome. im tired of people ranking gomi #1. sherk, bj, and probably even stevenson would beat him

crxmatt2 02-24-2008 06:40 PM

Re: Any of you guys ever grapple with your buddies?
 

Originally Posted by BirdmanMD
im on my university's boxing team. after practice we have a few guys that do mma as well as myself. im 159 5'8" and box at 147(welterweight in college weight classes) and can handle most of the 185 guys no problem at all when it gets to the ground.

P.S.- i got a fight against us naval academy coming up, ill post a vid after the fight in early march

ninja edit: crxmatt: that fight with gomi was awesome. im tired of people ranking gomi #1. sherk, bj, and probably even stevenson would beat him

Gomi isn't even top 10 lightweigts. Frank Edgar, Tyson Griffin, Roger Heurta are a few of the underrated lightweights. Gomi does have devistating hands though.. but that's all thats going for him. I'm anxious to see BJ fight some of the up and coming lightweights in the division though. Props on the boxing. I'd love to learn more about it, i've got a pretty good reach but no power.. and there's no boxing school within an hour where I live.

RotaryGeek 02-24-2008 08:03 PM

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salesmonkey, we get a suicide attempt about once a week cuz we have the crisis management center here. thats where we hold all the suicidal ones. but naked in A room with nothing but a metal bed and a suicide blanket. and we keep it about 60 degrees in there so all they want to do is stay wrapped up in there blanket.

TorganFM 02-24-2008 09:40 PM

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I agree about Gomi. I have no idea why he's ranked number one when he hasn't fought in a year, his last fight was a brutal pwning, and before that Marcus Aurelio went the distance and lost by a split but triangled Gomi in their previous fight. He's not that good, and Huerta, Guida, Melendez, BJ, Stevenson would all molest him at this point in time.

Btw I had another BJJ practice tonight and I taught the guys a little something. Say I have a guy in my guard and I'm trying to triangle him. Well if he defends and wraps his inside arm around my leg I can make a quick transition to omoplata that
s super effective.

xternal 02-24-2008 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDocta
me and my friends do all the time

its fun

You need help

crxmatt2 02-24-2008 09:57 PM

Re: Any of you guys ever grapple with your buddies?
 

Originally Posted by TorganFM
I agree about Gomi. I have no idea why he's ranked number one when he hasn't fought in a year, his last fight was a brutal pwning, and before that Marcus Aurelio went the distance and lost by a split but triangled Gomi in their previous fight. He's not that good, and Huerta, Guida, Melendez, BJ, Stevenson would all molest him at this point in time.

Btw I had another BJJ practice tonight and I taught the guys a little something. Say I have a guy in my guard and I'm trying to triangle him. Well if he defends and wraps his inside arm around my leg I can make a quick transition to omoplata that
s super effective.

Yeah omaplata is effective if done 100% right. I hardly ever go for it because of it's risk and I dont recall anyone ever being finished by an omaplata. I do however enjoy the gogoplata, and I just learned the gogo from the mount position that's very effective as well. a proper gogo is an instant tapout if done correctly.

TorganFM 02-24-2008 10:35 PM

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Well they're all technically instant tapouts if done correctly. Omoplata is like second nature to me, like how triangle is second nature to guys with long legs. Gogoplata we haven't practiced because it's an air choke and those are no-go for a university club at this point. I don't find the omoplata so risky because I have one of his arms trapped and I still have my 2 free hands. Even if he rolls out I've got his arm trapped for armbar etc. I <3 omoplata as well as figure four armbar with the guy in my triangle. My sweeps are pretty sick too. I love the one sweep we learned where the guy's in my guard and then I wrap underneath one of his armpits all the way to the back of his head with one hand, hook the back of his knee with my other, then push my hips to the sky and land in mount.

Armbars from the bottom with the guy teetering above you are awesome too. I do my best work off the bottom, it's when I get to the top that I kind of choke and just sit there with a position.

crxmatt2 02-24-2008 10:46 PM

Re: Any of you guys ever grapple with your buddies?
 

Originally Posted by TorganFM
Well they're all technically instant tapouts if done correctly. Omoplata is like second nature to me, like how triangle is second nature to guys with long legs. Gogoplata we haven't practiced because it's an air choke and those are no-go for a university club at this point. I don't find the omoplata so risky because I have one of his arms trapped and I still have my 2 free hands. Even if he rolls out I've got his arm trapped for armbar etc. I <3 omoplata as well as figure four armbar with the guy in my triangle. My sweeps are pretty sick too. I love the one sweep we learned where the guy's in my guard and then I wrap underneath one of his armpits all the way to the back of his head with one hand, hook the back of his knee with my other, then push my hips to the sky and land in mount.

Armbars from the bottom with the guy teetering above you are awesome too. I do my best work off the bottom, it's when I get to the top that I kind of choke and just sit there with a position.

that's exactly what happens to me. I'm a horrible mount jiu jitsu fighter. If my opponent is bigger i grab their arm and fall back and put them in my full guard. Only thing I really do from mount is basic armbar, americana, or try an arm triangle. i have no problem being on my back, i have long legs and I can slap on a triangle in a second.

TorganFM 02-24-2008 10:51 PM

Re: Any of you guys ever grapple with your buddies?
 
Yeah I don't even try to sub from mount unless it's an arm triangle variation or armbar since it's so easy to sweep. In fact I'd prefer side control to mount most times because I feel more grounded that way.

BirdmanMD 02-28-2008 10:59 PM

Re: Any of you guys ever grapple with your buddies?
 

Originally Posted by crxmatt2
Gomi isn't even top 10 lightweigts. Frank Edgar, Tyson Griffin, Roger Heurta are a few of the underrated lightweights. Gomi does have devistating hands though.. but that's all thats going for him. I'm anxious to see BJ fight some of the up and coming lightweights in the division though. Props on the boxing. I'd love to learn more about it, i've got a pretty good reach but no power.. and there's no boxing school within an hour where I live.

thanks man. im lucky to have one in my school or else i probably wouldn't go all the way to D.C. to do it. Ill wear an HMT logo into one of my fights if the school allows it, but the amatuer athletic commission probably wont like that too much haha

Guy-Fast 02-28-2008 11:49 PM

Re: Any of you guys ever grapple with your buddies?
 
We use to have boxing matches at my house all the time till we were around 20.

EG-prince 02-29-2008 09:45 PM

Re: Any of you guys ever grapple with your buddies?
 

Originally Posted by TorganFM
Yeah I don't even try to sub from mount unless it's an arm triangle variation or armbar since it's so easy to sweep. In fact I'd prefer side control to mount most times because I feel more grounded that way.

Same with me, I feel useless in mount. I think mount is most effective in a real match/fight for just pounding the ---- out of their face. I'm way more comfortable to have them in guard, but I think this is probably a bad habit for a real fight because you're still fairly open to catch a fist or elbow to the face even if you have good position and are careful. Its too easy to put a lot of force in a downward strike... gravity pwnz joo. One of my favorite submissions is when the opponent has you in a half guard-- you have to be quick, but you can pivot on the leg that he has wrapped and fall onto his leg for a leg bar (for lack of better vocab), but my go to from guard is always the triangle (i am of course stereotypically long-legged :P )

Budget_SI 02-29-2008 10:31 PM

Re: Any of you guys ever grapple with your buddies?
 

Originally Posted by chris
We use to have boxing matches at my house all the time till we were around 20.

same.

now I only wrestle women

HomeMadeTurboz 02-29-2008 10:58 PM

Re: Any of you guys ever grapple with your buddies?
 
No i don't.

1. It is kinda gay looking
2. Brine04 and 90dx are BIG Nig nogs. Both 6'3"+ and both 270lbs+
3. I am lazy and shaped like a keg, not a 6 pack :1

GenLx 03-01-2008 12:47 AM

Re: Any of you guys ever grapple with your buddies?
 
every now and then. i'm 2 years into my brazilian jujitsu and most of my drinking friends have already found out the hard way

Guy-Fast 03-01-2008 08:06 PM

Re: Any of you guys ever grapple with your buddies?
 

Originally Posted by Budget_SI
same.

now I only wrestle women



Ditto. I actually have some pretty bad scar tissue from fighting on my forehead that doesnt allow me to fight anymore. Any solid shots and well swells like crazy. I spend the next week draining fluid out of it. Good times.

cornfuzed 03-01-2008 09:19 PM

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somebody needs to post some porn because all this talk of guys getting drunk and rolling arround until someone submits is really kinda gay

EG-prince 03-01-2008 09:26 PM

Re: Any of you guys ever grapple with your buddies?
 

Originally Posted by cornfuzed
somebody needs to post some porn because all this talk of guys getting drunk and rolling arround until someone submits is really kinda gay

you are right, but newbz do not demand the posting of porn. If you see the need for porn, it is YOUR civic duty as a newbie member of this forum to post said porn. Post away, boylover

cornfuzed 03-01-2008 10:39 PM

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