Advise me on riceboy bodywork for my car.
 

Alright, I'm going for a stealthy turbo setup. I don't want anyone to be able to see my IC, hear the BOVs (routed back through the intake), the wastegates are routed back into the exhaust, the exhaust has both resonator and a good welded ultra-flo to suppress most/all of the whistling goodness.

I'm currently getting fucked in the ass on fitting a modest 26X2.75"X9" IC with the way the front bumper is "undercut" - the ---- has to be cut all to hell, and the IC is just hanging out for the world to see. Not good. Here's a picture so you can visualise:

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/3...perwoeszj4.jpg

FYI, the bumper I have is an 88-89 STD, which looks to be identical to my 88-89 DX on the beater deluxe. Is the Si or any of the 90-91 stuff not undercut? I'd prefer the car to be bone stock in appearance, but failling that rice rides are ALWAYS slow and pathetic and the average eye passes over them... I've been thinking of doing a CRX front end conversion as the CRX bumper cover fit my old 24"X4"X11" IC nicely with minimal/stealthy trimming, as the CRX bumper is not undercut. Alternately, some semi-stock looking ricer front bumper?

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I think the crx front is the lesser of the two evils O0

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haha halfway through reading your post i was thinking of the crx swap. still looks very oem and imho much better than the hatch front end. gets rid of that gay ass upper lip right above the bumper and below the hood. also will fit your intercooler better. but finding one for a decent price that isnt too fucked up is getting pretty hard. and then your gunna have to paint match it. or rattle can york whole car flat black which i personally dont think looks too good. unless you have the red std and can find a red crx front end. same paint on both cars and nearly same age will make sure the fade is matched.

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The STD is very shiny and clean, it'd take some buffing to get 95% of red CRX body panels to match up.

I'm pretty sure I'll housepaint the car at some point, so interim mismatching doesn't bother me much. I'll try to match the OEM red as best I can and just do the outside, so I don't have to do a lot of work and the doorjams and engine bay don't look like ass like they always do with a color change.

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problem solved then. should be ------ sexy when your done. stock looking and boosted too. too bad its not an si. where im from there is like two in the whole state. i would sell my left nut for a mint si hatch.

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EK front end FTW!!! The body lines will really flow with that front end. :l

BTW, those are some sweet MS Paint skills you got, JD.

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first of all, flat black the intercooler.... that'll help a bunch.
Also, def. ricey but you can put some mesh in there to cover it up more.

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instead of cutting.. use a torch to heat up the bumper where you want to mold it for the ic.. and use a nice clean glass or ss pipe dipped in water to mold the bumper however the ---- you want i did this for my ricer exhaust 4 years ago on my civic wagon on the rear bumper :1

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you could get a water/air intercooler. then you could still use your stock bumper. i know a place to get a good deal on a complete kit too

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No, you don't understand. The intercooler physically sticks out whole inches in places where the bumper never existed in the first place. Flat blacked or no you'd have to be three generations inbred to not notice something is up with the car... it's about as noticeable as having no bumper cover at all. Mesh does nothing for stealth, either. Uhm, D minus on your reading comprehension? :-\

Where would that fit? You reaqlise I have less room than most B-swapped ED chassis, right?

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you can fit it right where the battery was. why do you have less room?

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http://app.infopia.com/Shop/Control/...id/0/SFV/31982

I thought of running one but then i just hacked the hell out of my bumper.

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post some pics then. maybe i missed something but i know nothing about your car

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My engine bay is crammed with ----; dual BOV, dual wastegate, and I don't care to ---- the electrical/sensor stability of my car by remote mounting a battery. Battery relocation that passes strict tech and satisfies me costs 250 plus, and then I'd be stuck with a complex heat-soaked water IC that is only superior if I pull over and ice it down. No thanks.

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The battery relocation did cost me more than I thought, thats fer shure, but I would mount the IC and use the factory bumper cover. Im not a fan of aftermarket body parts.

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what the hell engine do you have in that car to need 2 of everything

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Yah, and I'm ---- retentive as hell. My car might fly through tech once, but after I rip anything faster than an 11 at Bristol they aren't going to let me through with any old remote battery box, etc. I'd have to get a $$$ one, properly vent it, etc. As far as 1/4 goes they are it around here and they are nazis. Add into the equation the increasing cost of 00 gauge welding cable, copper lugs, I don't own a soldering iron big enough to join them correctly as that fly by night unsealed crimp ---- won't be found on my car, etc. Too much ------- around for something that doesn't address the fact that water-air ICs suck on street cars and I need a stealthy install.

Fixed it for you. :)

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but you didnt answer. i wanna see this beast

and what are you spooling it with 150 shot?

also, i assumed it was a race car, thats why i recommended the water to air intercooler. if i knew it was a street car i wouldnt have said it

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It is a racecar. Don't you drive your gutted, caged, wheelie bar'd, on slicks beast around town on a tankful of premium every so often?

I haven't taken any pics because I haven't wanted any of the local theives to see what it looks like. I've got no problem doing a one-off pictorial for the HMT nogs, but I have to get my camera back from mom and then drive out to the car and do all the sweet JDM HT angles, and that takes a minute to set up right. It's your basic red STD in pretty clean shape with ghetto tint turning purple and bubbly that I plan on mounting a Thule roof rack on and masquerading as a college student unless the trained eye notices the wheelie bar mounts sticking discreetly out of my rear bumper cover.

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id go with the 88-89 CRX front bumper. it doesnt cut so far back and, although it does require trimming, it wont stick out like the picture you have drawn

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91 si bumper cover, i had to do some cutting, and getto mesh. oh and i trimmed the bumper support. :8
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/fi...p/IMG_2507.JPG
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/fi...h/IMG_2508.JPG

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+1 its a little more work but it would look a lot better than a body kit or someother gay ----. crx ftw.

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Sweet, Mike, that's exactly what I'm looking for!

What size was your IC, again?

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i think the same. its a jonnyrace. i'll email you some pics tomorrow, i'm in iraq so my net speed is less that dial-up :l

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Sweet, I appreciate it. Be safe over there.

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Lol, I’m a frequent flyer at this point, in the last five years I’ve been here more an NC :6

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Too bad water/meth injection was deemed unsuitable. :(

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water injection wasnt deemed unsuitable. It just doesnt decrease IAT's. It DOES do the same thing its always done, which is to raise your knock limit with pump gas. JD's car will see a steady diet of race fuel. water injection not required.

JD, I think we need to go in on a few 55gal drums of race gas, and stash it somewhere closeby...

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Water injected knock limit of the 85mm LS should be in the 450-480 whp range. Running an engine right against knock limit is the quickest way to wear it out, and I want 500+. Further, on the street I don't plan to lay down more than 350, unless I'm running slicks in which case it will be strictly racegas power levels. Water injection is pretty pointless for this setup.

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Where do you fools get your race gas from? I"m in Maryland. p.s. sorry to jump in on your thread JD

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if you gotta go aftermarket on your front end run a buddyclub style. they are "semi" close to stock and fiberglass so you can hack all you want ;D
and you can use 4ga cable for battery relocation with no problems just run a 8-4ga ground with it and your set
by the way use a propane torch to solder your ring connections works wonders and is quick as ---- if you got any skill :1

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I cut a little of the rad support and grinded down the grill on mine,

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FYI, 88-89 and 90-91 hatchback front ends are almost identical in size and mounting. Small subtle changes are made to the bumper cover itself, but the size remains the same. How do I know this? From trying various 88-91 style front bumpers on my hatch, both hatchback and Crx ones. My pick from my experience is the Crx front bumper, 90-91 style...it'll swap on with minor mod work (meaning you have to swap to crx fenders and bumper support and then cut off the lower pieces from the civic fenders and weld them on to the crx units...the spots where on crx's it's normally plastic, or just run the plastics anyway and call it a day) and you can still retain the stock hatch hood. With that front bumper I was able to run a fmic that was 27"x11.5"x2.75" (aka Evo8 fmic ;) ) and not have to worry about cutting into anything but the radiator T-bar.

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I was wondering why the ---- you were telling me about a conversion I already knew how to do until I got to the stock hatch hood part. WTF? I thought the CRX fenders/hood were curved slightly? Keep talking, damn you.


Yeah, I think I already mentioned the 24"X11"X4" IC I had in the nose of my 89 HF? There's forty ------- acres of room in a CRX front bumper. :S

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I've done a full crx front conversion on a hatchback. It needed the fenders & fender brackets, metal bumper & brackets, and of course the bumper. Everything bolts on but the trim on the side doesn't match.

damnit got beat to the punch.

What iff you offset the inlets forward, cut out the vertical rad support brace, and moved the intercooler up & back a couple inches?

Even cut out the middle of the bumper filler, and increase the airflow a bit, maybe.

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I'm running 22x9x3 right now in a 90-91 DX bumper and my ---- is still pretty stealthy. Can anyone confirm that the Si/DX bumpers are different in terms of depth?

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I'm sure JD possesses the required knowledge for a battery relocation. He stated that it would cause a hassle at the dragstrip unless it was properly vented and ----.

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you can fit an odyssey or similar small battery on top of the subframe behind the transmission.

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I already stated my complete lack of interest in spending money to relocate a battery that is just fine in it's stock location.