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J-SMITH69 02-23-2007 11:31 PM

4 stroke 2008 banshee?
 
I got the new Dirt Wheels today (april 2007). On the cover is a 4 stroke banshee. It looks like Yamaha is testing some 4 stroke 500cc twin cylinder Banshees in Japan. I just skimmed over the artical and there doesn't seem to be much info. on it yet other than Yamaha is testing many different prototypes. Basically they are saying it is 2 YZF250 cylinders or half of an R1 motor. There is actually talk of it coming out with 60-70 hp out of the box, but may even be as high as 85hp (1/2 of the R1). It will be interesting to see what Yamaha actually does with this. I am wondering about the powerband of the twin 4 stroke motor. Will it have more torque/bottom end power, or be higher revving like a sport bike.

I looked on Dirt Wheels website and they don't have the picture of it and I couldn't find one on the net anywhere. They only show a side view of the quad in the magazine, but it looks like the Banshee radiator with Raptor/YFZ450 front fenders and headlights.

tribb333 02-24-2007 01:10 AM

Re: 4 stroke 2008 banshee?
 
http://imgs.zinio.com/magimages/1493...6806471_lg.jpg

crx2fast 02-24-2007 05:21 AM

Re: 4 stroke 2008 banshee?
 
i would wrather have the mudzilla >:D

turborski 02-24-2007 08:33 AM

Re: 4 stroke 2008 banshee?
 
i wanna buy a quad for the days I don't feel like foot plant'n. was looking into a new can-am, but now i might have to wait. That Banshee sounds like a Raptor killer.

stillnoturbo 02-24-2007 08:40 AM

Re: 4 stroke 2008 banshee?
 
I always wanted a Power Wheels 4 wheeler or Jeep version. :'(

turborski 02-24-2007 09:23 AM

Re: 4 stroke 2008 banshee?
 
was looking on a banshee forum and those guys seem to think it is a hoax :'(

Dr.Boost 02-24-2007 12:18 PM

Re: 4 stroke 2008 banshee?
 

Originally Posted by turborski
was looking on a banshee forum and those guys seem to think it is a hoax :'(

I hope so. :3 Next thing you know Chevrolet will be dropping an I4 into Vette chassis' to lower the price and power to make them more affordable and insurable. :3 Why not put smog pumps on and emissions friendly horseshit. Maybe start making an "alternative fuel" Banshee running on propane getting 49mpg while throwing down a staggering 15whp. :1 If Yamaha ruins the Banshee with that 4-stroke pile of ---- motor, Yamaha will lose alot of customers. :3
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HondaTuner 02-24-2007 12:26 PM

Re: 4 stroke 2008 banshee?
 

Originally Posted by stillnoturbo
I always wanted a Power Wheels 4 wheeler or Jeep version. :'(

I always did too, never got it though :(

J-SMITH69 02-24-2007 03:01 PM

Re: 4 stroke 2008 banshee?
 
i read somewhere that 500cc banshee is supposed to have 72hp. if that is so that is far more than the 350cc 2 stroke banshees have now.

very big step up...

Dr.Boost 02-24-2007 03:12 PM

Re: 4 stroke 2008 banshee?
 

Originally Posted by random-strike
i read somewhere that 500cc banshee is supposed to have 72hp. if that is so that is far more than the 350cc 2 stroke banshees have now.

very big step up...

Those are just estimates from uneducated people.

And I supposed it "should be" more reliable than the 2 stroke 350 motor, right? ::) It's funny how everybody I know who owns a 4 stroke is having problem after problem and when they first bought it all they could talk about was how reliable and trouble free they are. ::) One of my friends just had his bike serviced after it wouldn't start and was backfiring. $1200 for a "tune-up" and overhaul that shouldn't even be necessary. I've never had an expense over the cost of a new piston/rings and a cylinder hone. 4-strokes suck and putting one in a bike that has been an absolute success as a 2-stroke for so many years in a row would be retarded and pointless. :3
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J-SMITH69 02-24-2007 03:16 PM

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i fugred the die hard banshee boys would not like it. i could care less either way.

Dr.Boost 02-24-2007 03:20 PM

Re: 4 stroke 2008 banshee?
 
I just think there are enough 4-strokes out there that the 4 stroke guys can choose from already. No need to ruin something that's already a legend by swapping in a completely opposite setup. That's like swapping a 289 out of a Mustang into a Vette. :1
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J-SMITH69 02-24-2007 03:52 PM

Re: 4 stroke 2008 banshee?
 
well it depends how much power it has.

its kinda like replacing a hi strung i6 turbo motor and putting in a flat v8 making the same power or a little more i guess it could be.

turborski 02-24-2007 10:46 PM

Re: 4 stroke 2008 banshee?
 

Originally Posted by Dr.Boost
Those are just estimates from uneducated people.

And I supposed it "should be" more reliable than the 2 stroke 350 motor, right? ::) It's funny how everybody I know who owns a 4 stroke is having problem after problem and when they first bought it all they could talk about was how reliable and trouble free they are. ::) One of my friends just had his bike serviced after it wouldn't start and was backfiring. $1200 for a "tune-up" and overhaul that shouldn't even be necessary. I've never had an expense over the cost of a new piston/rings and a cylinder hone. 4-strokes suck and putting one in a bike that has been an absolute success as a 2-stroke for so many years in a row would be retarded and pointless. :3

word. my bud has on 01 raptor, and preached his reliability to me. he would trash me all the time about me hav'n to rebuild every 2 to 4 weeks ($200) of riding weekends with him (I ride fuk'n hard/nickel plated cylinder already). One day mister reliable doesn't start and for the life of me I couldn't help. 2 grand and 6 weeks later ---- head is up and running, made me want a 4 poke fo sho.

Reddy 02-25-2007 03:55 PM

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Lol, can't you see its a photochopped banshee and YFZ450 together?


Dirt wheels does an April fools thing like this every year

J-SMITH69 02-25-2007 03:56 PM

Re: 4 stroke 2008 banshee?
 

Originally Posted by Whitey
Lol, can't you see its a photochopped banshee and YFZ450 together?


Dirt wheels does an April fools thing like this every year

nice call... i bet it got a lot of people rilled up.

i wanna see a 4 poke production banshee haha

Reddy 02-25-2007 04:00 PM

Re: 4 stroke 2008 banshee?
 

Originally Posted by random-strike
nice call... i bet it got a lot of people rilled up.

i wanna see a 4 poke production banshee haha



It'll never happen becuase the Banshee is still in production:

http://www.yamaha-motor.ca/products/products.php?model=2079&class=78&group=A|&LANG=en


The 2008 model will still be the same motor.

J-SMITH69 02-25-2007 04:13 PM

Re: 4 stroke 2008 banshee?
 
im turning into a 2 stroke guy pretty fast. at least for everything except hardcore over logs through brush trail riding.

i love my tri-zs. my 80 over one rips hard and i love power sliding that thing around long corners in 5th.

its so easy to start and that is so nice for a change 8)

Rexula 02-25-2007 10:41 PM

Re: 4 stroke 2008 banshee?
 
I see on the cover thats a April issue..........They always do a April Fool's cover in April. :y

WTF 02-26-2007 03:22 AM

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ya looks pretty foolish. a nigd out looking "mudzilla" , a dog on a atv with a helmet on, and that thing, which looks like it has a sport bike frame pasted on the side, and the word banshee on the seat just looks like somthing yahmaha wouldnt really do i dont know..

Perfek360 02-27-2007 05:58 AM

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i love my banshee...i traded my cbr 600f2 for it....and when i got it all my buddies that had four strokes started preaching the same thing about reliability....and they said it wouldn't do that good on the trails cause i had no low end power....so i go out there and ride the trials with them and my banshee did just fine, in fact it out performed most of the bikes out riding with us

d16forlife 02-27-2007 07:35 AM

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Yamaha allready makes a twin 660 and a fuel injected 700 twin 4 stroke for the Raptors. Why would they do that to the Banshee? ??? :3

J-SMITH69 02-27-2007 12:44 PM

Re: 4 stroke 2008 banshee?
 

Originally Posted by Perfek360
i love my banshee...i traded my cbr 600f2 for it....and when i got it all my buddies that had four strokes started preaching the same thing about reliability....and they said it wouldn't do that good on the trails cause i had no low end power....so i go out there and ride the trials with them and my banshee did just fine, in fact it out performed most of the bikes out riding with us

you need to ride tighter trails.

wanna come riding with me sometime? im in desperate need of a riding partner

mycrx 02-27-2007 12:57 PM

Re: 4 stroke 2008 banshee?
 
4 strokes own 2 strokes its been proven many times, yamaha is just doing what is best and they know it, they make millions.

d16forlife 02-27-2007 01:33 PM

Re: 4 stroke 2008 banshee?
 

Originally Posted by random-strike
you need to ride tighter trails.

Thats what I was thinking.

Dr.Boost 02-27-2007 05:10 PM

Re: 4 stroke 2008 banshee?
 

Originally Posted by mycrx
4 strokes own 2 strokes its been proven many times, yamaha is just doing what is best and they know it, they make millions.

We've been over this many times. ::) It takes a 4stroke 2x the motor to "own" a 2 stroke. I hardly qualify that as owning anything. :1 Shouldn't you be adjusting your valves or something? I think I hear them ticking.... :P
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Reddy 02-27-2007 05:13 PM

Re: 4 stroke 2008 banshee?
 

Originally Posted by Dr.Boost
We've been over this many times. ::) It takes a 4stroke 2x the motor to "own" a 2 stroke. I hardly qualify that as owning anything. :1 Shouldn't you be adjusting your valves or something? I think I hear them ticking.... :P



He just wants people to pay attention to him.

mycrx 02-27-2007 05:17 PM

Re: 4 stroke 2008 banshee?
 
if i took a cr500 and a bored out 450 say 480cc, the cr wouldnt even have a chance.

Dr.Boost 02-27-2007 05:32 PM

Re: 4 stroke 2008 banshee?
 

Originally Posted by mycrx
if i took a cr500 and a bored out 450 say 480cc, the cr wouldnt even have a chance.

O RLY? :S

So you're taking a STOCK 2-stroke against a MODIFIED 4 stroke? :1

Why don't we compare a STOCK cr250 to a STOCK CRF250? :8
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mycrx 02-27-2007 06:09 PM

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yea the modded 4 strokes still whaaaaa ??? 20cc less in size?? come on big 2 smoker big it, a stock 450 vs a cr500 450 still owns, just as much power and half the weight of that pos.

Dr.Boost 02-27-2007 06:14 PM

Re: 4 stroke 2008 banshee?
 

Originally Posted by mycrx
yea the modded 4 strokes still whaaaaa ??? 20cc less in size?? come on big 2 smoker big it, a stock 450 vs a cr500 450 still owns, just as much power and half the weight of that pos.

Half the weight? 4 strokes are heavy ass turds compared to 2 strokes. Where do you get your info? ??? Also, show me where a STOCK cr500 gets owned by a STOCK 450.

20cc is nothing. 200cc is quite a bit.
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mycrx 02-27-2007 06:17 PM

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hey ----- i said 480cc not 200 more cc idiot, jesus a 450 with a big bore 480 would rape a ------- cr 500, and ------ 4 strokes weight like 4lbs more then a 2 stroke, take a huge ---- and im covered. plus the extra power as i wheely by u ----- 2 smokers is just dandy :y

Dr.Boost 02-27-2007 06:19 PM

Re: 4 stroke 2008 banshee?
 
Do you have proof of this or are you just making all this retarded ---- up as you go? ::)

My cr250 came stock wqith 864,987whp and it's sooper fast!!! :1

:3
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Dr.Boost 02-27-2007 06:25 PM

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My Jeep has more HP than a 4cylinder Honda so Jeeps are teh fastest!!!! :1 :1 :1 :1 :1 :1

Next time you compare a STOCK CR500 to a MODIFIED CRF450 you get the dumbfuck of the year award.

:3
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mycrx 02-27-2007 06:31 PM

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your a complete ------- idiot, yea modded o wow a bigger cylinder, stock along the 450 will eat that pos i was making more comparable but ---- u could bore it out to a 500cc so they are both identical and do it that way, get a life and stop picking a little stupid ---- you dont get, your ride red and red is garbage especially the 2 strokes so lick my balls n go buy some premix or somethin. 450 owns... trick.

stock 450 have 50-55hp stock 250 2 strokes dont even have 50 ----- lips, most have around 45, that pos 500 is old ass technology thats been the same since ------- 1990, its just a big ass turd, all you homos do is ----- ---- anyway so i could see y u weaklings would want 2 strokes but whatever have fun being gay and ass slaping in the astro vans.

Dr.Boost 02-27-2007 06:33 PM

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Are you this ------- stupid in person? :3 Jesus, good luck with that whole retarded thing. I hope it works out for you. :-\
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Dr.Boost 02-27-2007 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mycrx
stock 450 have 50-55hp stock 250 2 strokes dont even have 50 ----- lips, most have around 45, that pos 500 is old ass technology thats been the same since ------- 1990, its just a big ass turd, all you homos do is ----- ---- anyway so i could see y u weaklings would want 2 strokes but whatever have fun being gay and ass slaping in the astro vans.

YOU'RE COMPARING A ------- 450 TO A ------- 250 YOU ------- RETARDED PIECE OF UNEDUCATED ----! HELLO?!?!?!?!?! DO YOU UNDER-------STAND THIS NOW????

200 ------- cc is alot of extra motor to only be producing ~5hp more. ::) Real impressive. :1 :3
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dragon 02-27-2007 06:37 PM

Re: 4 stroke 2008 banshee?
 
wow its just got serious over which is better 2 stroke or 4 stroke..chill out mycrx..just a little too many name callings there :P



pshhhh..JD this is the drama I was talking about...

mycrx 02-27-2007 07:08 PM

Re: 4 stroke 2008 banshee?
 

Originally Posted by Dr.Boost
YOU'RE COMPARING A ------- 450 TO A ------- 250 YOU ------- RETARDED PIECE OF UNEDUCATED ----! HELLO?!?!?!?!?! DO YOU UNDER-------STAND THIS NOW????

200 ------- cc is alot of extra motor to only be producing ~5hp more. ::) Real impressive. :1 :3

its not just 5 its more upwards of 10 idiot, and you were bitching about a 480cc 4 stroke racing a cr500 but whatever youll always be right, knowing that youve never owned a 450cc race bike or anything other then pos 2 strokes, trust me dumbass i used to love 2 strokes up until the day i rode a 450, and jesus christ it was enough to never go back, its not just hp its an entire differnt power band, u have hp in the high revs, i have hp and tq in the low end, mid range, and high end, and i can feel it in every gear, crusing along in 4th and hammer it and its just everywhere pretty much just hold the ---- on, all the 250cc 2 strokes and the 500 ive ridden they didnt even feel like that, its more of a rush, pure acceleration no lag lag lag smoke puff puff lag "make metal clangin sounds" smoke some more then hit a little power. also idiot ive seen 250f's own 250 2 strokes so what the ----?? that 250f has the same hp almost as a 250cc 2 stroke.

Reddy 02-27-2007 07:16 PM

Re: 4 stroke 2008 banshee?
 

Originally Posted by mycrx
that 250f has the same hp almost as a 250cc 2 stroke.


A Honda Civic makes almost the same HP as a Dodge Viper ::)


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