300zx tt, yay or nay?
 

im contemplating seling my black hatch and buying a 300zx tt, upgrading the turbos and possibly building the engine, they are pretty clean cars, what i wanna know is
stock boost ammount
how much the engine can push out stock block while being semi safe
and most importantly FEUL MANAGEMENT. thanks guys

Re:300zx tt, yay or nay?
 

nice cars, i like them. But if you think honda's engine bays are tight, your in for a treat. There is absolutely no room and i mean none, they stuffed that ---- in there somehow, probably with the intentions that nothing would ever come out. I'd consider it though. Get a regular one, not the 2+2, they are longer and just dont look right. later,

- short-A

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honda engine bays are far from tight, i could probalby hide in my engine bay. yeah i know that those engine bays are tough but 3.0l rwd v6 tt power is a bit tempting.

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i agree, anything except the real new hondas, the engine bays are wiiide open. wanna see crammed? try a work van with a small block sitting under the dashboard. CHANGE THOSE SPARKPLUGS LMAO!

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I'd say do it. And yea those bitches are tight! I was changing the oil on one and the little turbos were pretty though :D
I don't even think you could touch them from the topside.

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There's just something I like working on honda's about. When I tried out Nissan (b13 SE-R to be exact)I just didn't like it at all. How things were setup, maybe I'm just so used to honda platforms but everything was just a pain in the ass to work on. I'm a "H"er foo life sucka! Hell I've seen those z32 engine bays and those are nightmares unless your arms are made of rubber and pencil thin. Best of luck with your choice.

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those things have like a million vacuum lines. haha my buddy had one. he had a jim wolf tuned ecu. it was a very fast car!! but you have take care of the bitch well. tune up every month. something u dont have to worry about on a honda 8)

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Plus honda ---- is soo much cheaper from nissan ---- and especially the Z32.

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pretty powerfull cars. Good that your going with the TT instead of the base v6. Its pointless to try to turbo the v6 models. My buddy raced a TT 300zx and that fucker was fast. Blew past buy us in 2 gear and he had one extra person in his car. There pretty heavy though. Good luck on upgrading a turbo though :-X

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i dont understand that jimwolf tuned ecu, how does he tune it if its not actually your car, i wonder if they ahve something comparable to uberdata, like the tuning maps and what not.

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its like buying a spoon sports ecu, its just an improvent in the maps over stock

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go for it! i love those cars. i'd buy one if i knew i could get any decent cash for my mazda. :-\

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There's a ROM editting program called Zcontrol for the 300ZX, it's kinda like uberdata. Here's the website...
www.zcontrol.net

Re:300zx tt, yay or nay?
 

cool cool, i wonder if i have to buy a new eprom burner or what, i think i may be gettin outta hondas for a second if i can find a good deal on a 300z... and to rx7 to civic, a spoon sports ecu is for a NA engine and you dont have to modify a NA engines feul maps much unless its really built, while a 300zx is boosted and uppin the boost would require much more feul map changes, that was what i didnt understand.

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I believe you can use the same burner... but I might be wrong ???

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I think you're forgetting the real old hondas too. My engine bay is crammed.
With the d16a1 and a turbo kit it's that much tighter. :-[

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if you are tall enough, make sure u test drive one coz there`s like NO leg room on 300s.i am 5'8, and my ankle is almost touching the dash.(passanger side :P)
they all handled really great at high speed.
not too fast in stock form.
make sure t-top are not leaking if that`s what ur getting.
(i would hose that ---- right in front of the owner)

Re:300zx tt, yay or nay?
 

i like those. way more power potential Per $ spent. i like the bodystyle

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you want a turbo rear wheel drive? get a supra. even the 88-91 supra turbos rock. and they're much easier to upgrade and have much more potential than the 300zx and toyota quality leaves nissan in the dust.

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i dont like those body styles, and if i got a supra it would be a mkiv, the mk3s have nothin on the mkiv's.

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I love(ed) my Z.

I'd kill to drop a twin turbo power plant or find some cheap used low compression forged pistons and build my na motor up for boost (manifolds; turbos; piping; intercoolers; slim radiator and condenser; bigger injectors and a TT rom burned on a 27c256 eprom and slapped in the good ol na ecu (hardware wise they're the same)).

but like its been said before they will give you 10 kinds of hell working on them. and parts are typically way more expensive and harder to come by.

But in the end you'll be driving a 15 year old sports car that looks better than most anything on the road and STILL gets gobs of attention and stuipd people asking if its some kind of 100k exotic.

Re:300zx tt, yay or nay?
 

Nay aka NO! They're ugly, slow, and HEAVY.i think 3400lbs

Your civic will be better. otherwise get a Supra

MKIV, looks better.

Re:300zx tt, yay or nay?
 

retard

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ugly and slow ???

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My buddy spent 10grand last summer on one, it was "mint" on the exterior and had a "jdm" engine, even though the usdm and jdm 3's/fairlady's have the exact same engine. There slow as ---- when they are stock and they are ugly IMO. He had his upgraded with a FMIC,Dual intake(dual pop charger for you 300 guys) and a reprogramed ecu. At 14psi that thing was still slower than my hatch at 5lbs. They are too heavy and way overpriced. If you want a nissan, buy a 240.

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your friend is an idiot;
Just like with honda's you can spend scads of money and not get any faster than if you spent your money wisely. (*cough* full-race bullshit *cough*).
A bone stock VG30DETT engine + 2x GT28RS turbo's + bigger intercoolers + the fuel to back it up (800cc or so injectors) + home grown remaped and expanded fuel tables for said boost + 3" exhaust = one fast fucker throw in some pistons and maybe rods and you'll be so close to 1000hp that you can smell it.

---- the stock engine and turbos are good to 400whp with injectors and a play on the computer.

Re:300zx tt, yay or nay?
 

Gah i think you're forgetting the concept of sports cars.... REAR WHEEL DRIVE! : )

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What the hell do you think your trying to compare. ;D I would take a stock tt over a honda any day.Maybe cuz i worked on them for the last 5 years.If you ever drove a stillen preped 300ztt you would love it.Had there low ball version at the shop an it had 98k on it an it was just breaking in.Pulled very hard an u wanna talk about stopping...Whooooaa thank god for shoulder belts cuz those brembo 4piston calipers with drilled an slotted rotors stopped from 120 to 0 hella fast.Jeff an i lets just say we test drove it like we stole it one one night.Had a few races that night against some stang that had some juice an it ripped on by that stang with ease.Even gave him a head start one race.It handled like it was on rails.Just get the stock tt version or a jdm motor then boost it an have lots fun.
RWD is so fun to let hang out :o
No torque steer an all the front wheel drive bs.Check out
STILLEN.com an see what he has to offer for the 300z. Just my .02 worth though

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oh okay, you want a rear wheel drive car? yeah, the 240sx is nice. the older fastback ones. You can do a jdm conersion and they'l look nice. You can put a sr20 motor or a skyline motor in them.

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putting a skyline motor in them even tt would be exspensive as ballz

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No... not that much, you cant put the r34 motors in bc they're 4wd only the r32 and some of the r34.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...spagename=WDVW
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...spagename=WDVW
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...spagename=WDVW

or you can get a sr20det redtop. cheaper.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...spagename=WDVW


Just find a cheap 240sx. My friends did the sr20 swap bc it was cheaper and more simple. I only know about one guy with the skyline swap but i dont know much about it.

Re:300zx tt, yay or nay?
 

There are front clips including the differential:
http://www.jarcoinc.com/inventory/halfcuts/

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thats ------- stupid; $3k for a nice 240sx (factoring in ricer markup) then another $3k for a very overrated engine (sr20) and then you still have to buy parts to make it quicker (ever seen a straight sr20 swapped 240 run a quarter? they'll get laughed at).

A good condition Z32TT can be had for $6-$8k + a few hundred in mods and you're in the 13s reliably in a much nicer car than a 240. Spend a few more dollars on bigger intercoolers; injectors a clutch (you'll burn the stocker up in now time w/ intake/exhast/computer) and another rom on the computer and you'll be in the 12s on teh stock turbos.

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I think "SloS13" is in the 13s and he's running a t3/t4 on a stock KA24DE

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i didn't read the thread but don't buy a tt if your going to upgrade the turbos anyway, buy the NA one and do a swap or whatever because insurance on a tt is killer. That was one of the main reasons my friend bought the NA one with plans to put turbos on it but he ended up paying out the ass for the car anyway...

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again no; an na-tt swap isn't easy or cheap by any means; a lot of the parts you'll need to do it are EXTREMLY hard to come by and the stock TT longblock is good for a lot more hp than the stock turbos will ever put out. Also with most insurance companies the insurance is the same or just slightly different between the na and tt.

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Id say...Yay IF....

It was a second car, and if you have a place for it to sit and tear it down for a month or so.

Like everyone says, the car is a bit .."tempremental" to work on, and requires an enigne pull for all but the most basic maintenence.

If you do buy one, you will need to overhaul it, and replace the gaskets/vacume lines/anything leaky. The close quarters in the engine compartment means that the turbos heat up most of the engine bay (not as bad as an RX7 though) and the hoses and vacume lines tend to degrade over 100,000 miles.

But if you can handle tearing it down, the car is a huge bang for the buck. The V6 is a pretty stout Iron block. and it responds really well to the usuall big turbos/injectors upgrades. I think the internals are reliable to about 600hp (but dont quote me) as long as its tuned halfway good

Try to pick up a pre 94' w/o the 4 wheel active steering and if you spend anything close to 10k$ then that baby better be mint.

Dont mess with hybrid Nissan crap, just stick with the engine in the car and build off the platform, it will be more then enough.

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thanks for bringing this back from the dead... :-\

I think the 300zx and supra both look nice imo. But there no need to hate on the civic :(

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i only clicked on this cause i thoguht scottsi got banned and wanted to see why, now i'm upset that he didn't :(