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Ricky101 04-19-2008 02:33 AM

Re: 2nd mistrial in miami terrorism case
 
is your dad really in jail??

RotaryGeek 04-19-2008 08:41 AM

Re: 2nd mistrial in miami terrorism case
 
you must not read much.

78NOVA 04-19-2008 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Ricky101
is your dad really in jail??

you sir, are a :1

if you search, you will see maybe about 3 or 5 threads about buks dad.........

RotaryGeek 04-19-2008 04:37 PM

Re: 2nd mistrial in miami terrorism case
 
Did buk ever post exactly what he got charged with and what actually happen? I think i remember seeing the charges once, but don't remember if he ever said anything about what exactly happened.

signorelli21 04-19-2008 06:43 PM

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basically he was convicted of conspiring to provide support to jihadists in chechnya and bosnia, but there was some thing with mujahideen/alqueada getting tossed in there so they say he was helping terrorists.

I think the difference is that the bush administration made a big deal out of saying they had stopped a huge plot to detonate a dirty bomb and he trained with al queada and all this ----, then they kept him in a military brig for 4 years without beiong convicted of a crime because he is a enemy combatant, now of course they can't just let him go because he can sue for quite bit and it will become yet anouther scandal.


J-SMITH69 04-19-2008 07:03 PM

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that wiki artical was written by buk

they should just deport buks dad and these other clowns rather than keep them in jail or even try to convict them

QikEnuF 04-19-2008 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by random-strike
that wiki artical was written by buk

they should just deport buks dad and these other clowns rather than keep them in jail or even try to convict them

---- off. Don't you have a klan meeting to be attending? I know they are on Saturday's around here...

buk9tp 04-19-2008 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by random-strike
that wiki artical was written by buk

they should just deport buks dad and these other clowns rather than keep them in jail or even try to convict them

actually it was written by my dad and its 100% factual.. show me one thing that isnt factual about it..

when all this ---- started up...

http://www.adl.org/main_Terrorism/jayyousi_41305.htm


At a bond hearing on March 30, federal judge Steven Whalen expressed concern that the government's case was weak, noting of the evidence in the FBI's affidavit that "much of this information involves an expression of political opinion."
that was a magistrate who took the time to look at the ---- MY DAD was accused of in the trial which is pretty much nothing.. and he said what he said.. fast forward to the trial.. and the govt is saying alqaeda 91 times in opening statements when my dad had nothing to do with alqaeda.. infact.. alqaeda wasnt even formed back then ::) or its roots were formed but we were funding it up the ass to fight the russians ::)

signorelli21 04-19-2008 07:44 PM

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yea whats funny is that the CIA was supplying weapons and training to the mujahideen during the russian invasion (ever seen rambo 3 ?) so padilla went to prison for helping these same people during the same time period, well i guess we should start rounding up all the SF guys that served in afganistan because they trained terrorists.


in other news..... whats with the ------- pope? where i work the overhead monitors are stuck on fox news 24/7 and all they have been showing is the ------- pope, all day long, omg they don't even do that ---- for the president.

buk9tp 04-19-2008 08:02 PM

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notice how they refer to him as a freedom fighter ::)

one of the biggest things is that in all the translations that the translators made everytime mujahideen was said they translated it to freedomfighter.. the govt came in and had there own expert change it and keep it to mujahideen which is an arabic alliteration of the word.. so now theyre coaxing the jury :l

http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=4042676&page=1


The Real Charlie Wilson
From Playboy to Freedom Fighter, Charlie Wilson's Secret War in Afghanistan
Dec. 22, 2007 —


In the 1980s, Charlie Wilson seemed the unlikeliest of crusaders.

He was best known as the hard-drinking, hard-partying Texas Congressman with a penchant for beautiful women.

He is now lionized, however, in the new blockbuster "Charlie Wilson's War" as the one-man wrecking crew who helped defeat the Soviet army in Afghanistan. And the real life Charlie Wilson led a more flamboyant life than the star Tom Hanks who plays him on the screen.

"Charlie may have been the only believer in the United States that the Afghan people could actually expel the Soviets. He had his own personal jihad," said Lawrence Wright, author of "The Looming Tower: Al-Qaeda and the Road to 9/11."

The real Charlie Wilson, now 74, has retired from both Congress and from his days of drinking. But he's as brazen as ever.

When ABC News' Bob Woodruff spoke with the former congressman on "Weekend Good Morning America" today about those days, decades ago, Wilson was asked about the reports of his cocaine use.

"Nobody knows the answer to that and I ain't telling," Wilson joked.

"How many dates did you have? How many women did you sleep with?" Woodruff followed up.

"Gosh I didn't keep count (Laughs)," Wilson replied.

But among Wilson's bevy of beauties was a tenacious Texas socialite named Joanne Herring -- played by Julia Roberts in the movie -- who opened Wilson's eyes to Soviet brutality in Afghanistan.

Once Wilson met Herring and she told him about the horrors of the Afghan war, he says he got more serious. "Mines that looked like they were toys would blow apart, blow off [children's] hands," Wilson recalls learning from Herring.

"Charlie said this had to stop. Not only does it have to stop, but it has to stop there before it comes here," Herring said.


Charlie's Covert War
Although the CIA was funding Afghan Muslims to fight the Soviet Union, Wilson wanted more money and more weapons because he thought the communists could be beaten faster. As the head of the House Defense Appropriations Subcommittee, responsible for funding CIA operations, he was in a position to help do that under the public's radar.

With Wilson's support, nearly a billion dollars was allocated to help the Afghan Mujadhideen's jihad to expel the Soviets, including a key $17 million for stinger missiles to shoot down Soviet attack helicopters.

The Soviet army called it quits in Afghanistan in 1989, striking a major blow to the empire. Within one year the Berlin Wall fell and Wilson remembers that day vividly.

"I believe that was the most electrifying moment of my life," Wilson says. "I watched Peter Jennnings. I had a bottle of champagne I was saving for such an occasion and I broke it open. And gave [the Mujahideen] a little toast."


Aftermath
The U.S. cut back support and money for Afghanistan after the Soviets' withdrawal and civil war broke out. Wilson regrets the pull back and says that if the U.S. had stayed, "We would have had a friend in the Muslim world which we could use."

With the U.S. and Soviets out, foreign terrorists moved in. Osama bin Laden who fought alongside the Mujahideen, returned to Afghanistan and contributed to the rise of the Taliban regime and 9/11.

Wilson doesn't blame 9/11 on the U.S. withdrawal though.

"We would have had something like 9/11 anyways. I think that bin Laden had his course pretty well set... But when you fight a war, you do what you think you need to do at the time. What seems right at the time is what you do," Wilson says.



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