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2JZ into 83 or 84 toyota cressida?
Is it almost a bolt in or are there serious serious mods needed to get it to fit? I just came across a nice old cressida for sale and was wondering how hard it was to get to fit... toyota guys.....
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Re: 2JZ into 83 or 84 toyota cressida?
Should be an easy fit since those things come with 2.8L I-6's.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Cressida "four door Supra" |
Re: 2JZ into 83 or 84 toyota cressida?
Originally Posted by TorganFM
Should be an easy fit since those things come with 2.8L I-6's.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Cressida "four door Supra" http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...erhonkcopy.jpg orig http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...l3x/hmtatm.jpg hmt edit :-* |
Re: 2JZ into 83 or 84 toyota cressida?
You will needed a 1jz ball housing to run the stock trans. You also have to make it a single turbo setup. Wiring is hell. Money, money, and money pit comes to mined.
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Re: 2JZ into 83 or 84 toyota cressida?
Originally Posted by crxvtec91
You will needed a 1jz ball housing to run the stock trans. You also have to make it a single turbo setup. Wiring is hell. Money, money, and money pit comes to mined.
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Re: 2JZ into 83 or 84 toyota cressida?
Originally Posted by Random Hero
Um negative, you can use the twins still. I have a buddy that's had one. The best way to do it is use a megasquirt.
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Re: 2JZ into 83 or 84 toyota cressida?
seen it done, its possible. do it.
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It's probably easier, wiring wise to put a 7m-gte in it.
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Re: 2JZ into 83 or 84 toyota cressida?
Originally Posted by E-b0la
It's probably easier, wiring wise to put a 7m-gte in it.
Why not just buy stock ---- for the GTE? ;D |
Re: 2JZ into 83 or 84 toyota cressida?
cause, then he's fast and furious yo
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it will bolt to the transmission bellhousing with a very smile adapter plate. it is not an absolute direct swap, youll need mounts.
plus why do that. it costs an assload of money and you're stuck with a torqueless, powerbandless wonder. do a 1uz-fe 2uz-fe hybrid or 3uz-fe v8 turbo swap. or a 3.4L 5vz-fe swap with a turbo or two. |
Re: 2JZ into 83 or 84 toyota cressida?
5vz-fe would be kinda cool. That's the motor in my T100. pretty solid engine.
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Re: 2JZ into 83 or 84 toyota cressida?
Originally Posted by wafflesincars
I thought that the 7m was already in that beast?
Why not just buy stock ---- for the GTE? ;D Not in that old, they didn't get the 7M till later. |
Re: 2JZ into 83 or 84 toyota cressida?
Originally Posted by Random Hero
Um negative, you can use the twins still. I have a buddy that's had one. The best way to do it is use a megasquirt.
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Not really a hard swap im just starting on a 2JZ into a S13 240.The wiring is simple you only need about ten wires to get a 2JZ running on the stock ecu and twins which is good for 400-450whp.You can run the Toy auto that comes with the JDM swap and with a couple simple mods will hold 400-450whp.Your other option is a 1JZ bellhousing and a 7MGTE 5spd [R154] along with a 7MGTE clutch and 1JZ flywheel.I paid $1800 for a complete 2JZ with a auto tranny,harness and ecu.Go buy one and the mounts are easy to make then just some wires.I watched a black Cressida with a 1JZ running a large single get kicked off the track at Mission this year it was 600+whp and that ------- thing moves >:D
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Re: 2JZ into 83 or 84 toyota cressida?
stick with the 5m O0
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Re: 2JZ into 83 or 84 toyota cressida?
nice lol!
5m/6m-gte hybrid yay! lol! seriously tho JZ block engines are mother ------- idiotic as swap engines. for the same money you can double the horsepower with several other Toyota engines/families as just buying a JZ block and getting it to run. triple it on afew... |
Re: 2JZ into 83 or 84 toyota cressida?
What? There's a place in VA that sells them as a complete swap $3k all day every day. Motor, trans, ecu, harness. And they're ------- bulletproof.
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the average price just for a complete 2jz-gte is around $2500, and they've been getting more expencive.
For that money I can buy a 4.0L 1uz-fe and turbo it for more horsepower and have both a signifigantly broader powerband, AND a faster revving engine than a 2jz can possibly make without tacking on another grand+ in a new turbo. Or for the cost of actually building a 2jz-gte to be a real 900bhp+ engine instead of a dyno queen 900bhp, you can build the UZ's to 1500-2000. If JZ's were so good, they'd be considered for aircraft use, they'd be used in poewrboat racing, and there wouldn't be afew people here and their successfully ditching them for the v8 and v12 toy engines. horsepower per dollar, and overall horsepower, youd rather have the v8s. and meh, all the transmissions still ------- suck. If you want more than afew hundred wheel horsepower better put aside another 2 grand for that. Which goes back to the other engines on the list... All of the toy v6's will mate too any of the transmissions in the short list of heavy duty FWD, or RWD transmissions and trash the transmission before the engine. So why spend $2500+ on an overrated piece of poor economy, low revving, slow revving hype machine known as a JZ block, when for less than a grand you can buy another engine that'll trash whatever transmission you rate it too and just be better. |
Re: 2JZ into 83 or 84 toyota cressida?
Originally Posted by Toysrme
nice lol!
5m/6m-gte hybrid yay! lol! seriously tho JZ block engines are mother ------- idiotic as swap engines. for the same money you can double the horsepower with several other Toyota engines/families as just buying a JZ block and getting it to run. triple it on afew... Just buy a 2JZGE for $500, then go NA-T and enjoy high compression and boost for cheap. It also really doesn't matter when you blow it the ---- up doing panty rippers, you're only out $500 for a new motor :P |
Re: 2JZ into 83 or 84 toyota cressida?
Moral of the story
JZ's are awesome stock engines, but they're nothing but expencive, overly hyped engines that have nothing more than a good set of factory pistons and rods behind them. Put those OEM quality pistons and rods in a 3 or 3.4L VZ block v6 and you've got the same power output. Seems like it wasn't a couple of years ago gadget did a minor rebuild on a pair of 3.4L 5vz-fe's and wound up with 850whp through a 4wd 4runner transmission. More-so if you dip them in the v8s. JZ's are good swap engines when you have too little time and too much money. loki werd on the 2jz-ge + a rebuild being a better buy any day of the week thana 2jz-gte. But now you're seriously getting into no point of buying a JZ in the first place. you're spending more than the v6's cost and have far poorer performance. the NA JZ engines have ---- for a powerband, and rev about as slowly as a heavy duty truck engine. Plus you can tack on atleast 100lbs on the HEAVYEST v6, about 100lbs on all the auminum block v8's, and depending on how you configure it 150-200lbs with the earlier aluminum engines by the time both are NA-T. Honest to god JZ's have so much reciprocating mass their horsepower VS time is complete dogshit. Plus they are honest to god 540lb engines when you turbo them. that's literally as bad,if not worse than putting some big-blocks in a car. Im not a JZ hater. Im a realist. The simple trueth to JZ engine swaps is there is ALWAYS a better, AND more economical choice than buying a JZ. Rock a JZ when the vehicle comes with a JZ. Otherwise do your homework and if you want to say Toyota, youll wind up with either a v6, or a v8 100% of the time. |
Re: 2JZ into 83 or 84 toyota cressida?
Originally Posted by Toysrme
Moral of the story
JZ's are awesome stock engines, but they're nothing but expencive, overly hyped engines that have nothing more than a good set of factory pistons and rods behind them. Put those OEM quality pistons and rods in a 3 or 3.4L VZ block v6 and you've got the same power output. Seems like it wasn't a couple of years ago gadget did a minor rebuild on a pair of 3.4L 5vz-fe's and wound up with 850whp through a 4wd 4runner transmission. More-so if you dip them in the v8s. JZ's are good swap engines when you have too little time and too much money. loki werd on the 2jz-ge + a rebuild being a better buy any day of the week thana 2jz-gte. But now you're seriously getting into no point of buying a JZ in the first place. you're spending more than the v6's cost and have far poorer performance. the NA JZ engines have ---- for a powerband, and rev about as slowly as a heavy duty truck engine. Plus you can tack on atleast 100lbs on the HEAVYEST v6, about 100lbs on all the auminum block v8's, and depending on how you configure it 150-200lbs with the earlier aluminum engines by the time both are NA-T. Honest to god JZ's have so much reciprocating mass their horsepower VS time is complete dogshit. Plus they are honest to god 540lb engines when you turbo them. that's literally as bad,if not worse than putting some big-blocks in a car. Im not a JZ hater. Im a realist. The simple trueth to JZ engine swaps is there is ALWAYS a better, AND more economical choice than buying a JZ. Rock a JZ when the vehicle comes with a JZ. Otherwise do your homework and if you want to say Toyota, youll wind up with either a v6, or a v8 100% of the time. |
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toysrme, anyone building the new 5.7's yet???
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the screaming drunk mullet guy is hillarious
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Re: 2JZ into 83 or 84 toyota cressida?
complex i know there's a supra with a stock one swapped running around. otherwise no i don't know anyone that has. to buy a crate UR block v8 is so far insane. they're all like 8-10,000 last I heard. even used engines are no less than 5K.
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Re: 2JZ into 83 or 84 toyota cressida?
Originally Posted by 97EconoBox
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Re: 2JZ into 83 or 84 toyota cressida?
Originally Posted by mike94se
Now all it needs is a Mustang, a Dodge, and red smoke. :6
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Re: 2JZ into 83 or 84 toyota cressida?
Originally Posted by xternal
If you go on Supraforums in the other cars section there are a ton of builds like that. There is a shop putting a 2jz into a Prowler, a guy putting one into a fox Mustang, a couple 240 swaps, C4 Vette, pretty much anything you can think of :-\ |
Re: 2JZ into 83 or 84 toyota cressida?
2jz is a good heavy vehicle motor, like when someone puts 40" tires and dana60's under a pickup
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Re: 2JZ into 83 or 84 toyota cressida?
Originally Posted by c0mpl3x
2jz is a good heavy vehicle motor, like when someone puts 40" tires and dana60's under a pickup
I'd just use a big block :P |
Re: 2JZ into 83 or 84 toyota cressida?
2JZ is great for when your on a tight budget and want to run 9's ;) I just wish it didnt weigh as much as a small block :S
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Re: 2JZ into 83 or 84 toyota cressida?
Originally Posted by 90dx
2JZ is great for when your on a tight budget and want to run 9's ;) I just wish it didnt weigh as much as a small block :S
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LOL at your avatar! Nice ---- this motor is! Like said yoda.
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2JZ no ----?
I said a 10 second car not a 10 minute car! |
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lol reminds me of my favorite supra joke. what's the differance in a 320hp, 450hp and 600hp toyota supra? nothing... they all run 12s! lol!
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I dont know well supra, why do you say they all run 12s? :-[
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Re: 2JZ into 83 or 84 toyota cressida?
Originally Posted by Teg2Boo
I dont know well supra, why do you say they all run 12s? :-[
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Re: 2JZ into 83 or 84 toyota cressida?
Then?
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