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CarAudiophile 12-26-2005 09:03 AM

XS Power = Shit?
 
So how quickly with my Turbo Detach from this Manifold? Or has anyone else used one?.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Honda...23937902QQrdZ1

civiceg500 12-26-2005 09:30 AM

Re: XS Power = Shit?
 
The whole subject is up in the air. Some people say on here that SSAUTOCHROME is crap and others say it is being tested and kinda in the works on how if it would be good to use or bad to use.

asianpoet 12-26-2005 10:16 AM

Re: XS Power = Shit?
 
yeah you should just search arround, cause on honda-tech.com the reviews on them are.. well less than satifactory for the price.
but here, it is being tested. I dont quite remember the user. its to early for me to search!, That i will leave to you, that is if you are interested in finding out more.

NBLKID 12-26-2005 10:31 AM

Re: XS Power = Shit?
 
Do a SEARCH because there are 99999999 of these xs power, ssac, etc ------- threads.....

here are the facts about 20000 people used their manifolds and had them crack,.... so are you feeling lucky? its up to you....

the wastegates and blow off valves dont seem to be that bad, although there have been a couple mishaps with the wastegates....

in my honest opinion i would never buy from them because the guy is a ------- dick fatigue and if you look at how he answers his sellers questions i dont think you would want to give him your money either....

CarAudiophile 12-26-2005 12:51 PM

Re: XS Power = Shit?
 

Originally Posted by NBLKID
Do a SEARCH because there are 99999999 of these xs power, ssac, etc ------- threads.....

here are the facts about 20000 people used their manifolds and had them crack,.... so are you feeling lucky? its up to you....

the wastegates and blow off valves dont seem to be that bad, although there have been a couple mishaps with the wastegates....

in my honest opinion i would never buy from them because the guy is a ------- dick fatigue and if you look at how he answers his sellers questions i dont think you would want to give him your money either....

I did see his reply to the kid that complained about mis-matched parts and that right there forces me not to do business with him. If I had a problem and got a response like that that dude with be shitting a Turd Ball Manifold Sandwich.

Understand there is like billions of the other ones but I guess wanted some other opinions also. Also does anyone know any how to's on the weak weld spots on these manifolds. I know there is bracing you can do I was wondering if anyone has done a write up on it.

NBLKID 12-26-2005 01:09 PM

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as far as bracing it i would brace it from the turbo to the block and the wastegate part of the manifold back to the manifold for added strength, the manifolds usually crack right at the collector or where the wastegate thing is

CarAudiophile 12-26-2005 01:26 PM

Re: XS Power = Shit?
 
Thanks for the Heads Up.

NBLKID 12-26-2005 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CarAudiophile
Thanks for the Heads Up.

n/p ;)

HMT-Admin 12-26-2005 02:28 PM

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I have one for 40 shipped brand new if ya want it, ;)

btw, I would never use one on any of my personal setups.

Scott-EP 12-26-2005 02:30 PM

Re: XS Power = Shit?
 
it seems that if you dont mind welding up a few cracks here and there then its fine

90dx 12-26-2005 03:15 PM

Re: XS Power = Shit?
 
Just avoid the turbo manifolds.The rest of his stuff his fine.I got a intake manifold for him the other day [LS] and it came with a BOV and a fuel rail for $125 US.The manifold looks great and is a knockoff of the SKunk,Blox etc units.

tuname420 12-26-2005 03:21 PM

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all his stuff is junk and he has bad customer service... jk he has no customer service ---- that guy.

93hatchdx 12-26-2005 10:00 PM

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ive had a xs power turbo and mani for about 6 months now. no problems whatsoever yet. i think it just depends sometimes

CarAudiophile 12-27-2005 12:38 PM

Re: XS Power = Shit?
 

Originally Posted by AbaZ
I have one for 40 shipped brand new if ya want it, ;)

If you are serious let me know where to send the cash. 40 bucks its worth it just to try.

splitime 12-27-2005 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by tuname420
all his stuff is junk and he has bad customer service... jk he has no customer service ---- that guy.

Not really true, I had a day or two of lag time trying to contact them... but once I did they replaced a Fedex damanged FMIC for me. When that one got damage also, they replaced it again. So in the end I got a perfect IC and was pleased with how they handled it.

Jcushing 12-27-2005 03:41 PM

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in response to some negative feedback he called that guy a be-otch! umm yeah for 40 bux sure buy one but dont waste your money on the new ones.

oh and its the metal itself that fatigues and breaks not the welds, ive even seen braced manifolds fall apart. at least try the newer ones that say they have thicker metal. oh yeah and have fun with that wategate placement. you understand how a slash cut tube in your intake works??? well they use the SAME philisophy to design their wategate placement. think about that..

BoostCraze 12-27-2005 03:53 PM

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I used one with no problems, jeff thinks its the b series manis that have the most problem, i was using a internal wastegate with a flexpipe and braced the mani and it never cracked.

CarAudiophile 12-27-2005 04:03 PM

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The Turbo will be Internally Gated. So I can just block off the Wastgate side. For 40 its worth a try to see if it works.

Scott-EP 12-27-2005 06:51 PM

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hell yea, for $40 you cant go wrong

90dx 12-27-2005 06:59 PM

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The first hmt kit I did I had a SSautopoop manifold on my D15 and i actually didnt have a problem with it.I was using a little T25 and braced it from the turbo to the block.Funny enough I have found SS to have excellent service and the best as well as fastest shipping i have ever recieved from ebay.

BoostCraze 12-27-2005 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 90dx
The first hmt kit I did I had a SSautopoop manifold on my D15 and i actually didnt have a problem with it.I was using a little T25 and braced it from the turbo to the block.Funny enough I have found SS to have excellent service and the best as well as fastest shipping i have ever recieved from ebay.

You sound like a commerical for SSAC lol

90dx 12-27-2005 07:41 PM

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Ha ha i guess so eh. :-[

93z6t 12-27-2005 09:49 PM

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the other night i was looking at his feed back and other than the few bad ones he had a lot of good reviews on his stuff and seems to be a awsome shipper i may try his stuff just not sure yet

NBLKID 12-27-2005 11:29 PM

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http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1097918&page=1

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1334997

---- ssautochrome

Tom-Guy 12-28-2005 11:18 AM

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SSAC's quality, and customer service, is all over the place. I've seen a general trend of turbos being better, but have seen recent turbo failures also. The BOV/misc stuff is alright. The cheap TiAL knockoff wastegate diaphragms worry me, as they do sometimes fail, but there are a lot of peope getting away with them. I've never seen one of their HKS wastegate imitations that didn't have problems seating.

Avoid their turbo manifolds for Honduhs. I have no experience with the D-stuff, as one poster said they worked well, but the B-stuff cracks and sometimes boost spikes, and the H-stuff boost spikes. Given the fluency of cheap D-manifolds on here, I'd avoid SSAC D-manis too.

A friend bought a manifold/T70 combo for his H22. Well, there's no place to bolt the alternator now. He searches around a bit, is annoyed to find out that a lot of the H22 guys relocate their alternators, but figures it's part of the game you have to play + sets out to do so. Only there's no room down low to mount the H22 alternator, or a D-series one either. Yet, this manifold/turbo were sold by SSAC as a combo, for an H22, that fits and works great!!1. :3

90DX, can you post up pics of that SSAC intake manifold? He might just be outsourcing the Skank2/Blox/etc manufacturer. Which means it is alright to buy. Maybe. :S










CarAudiophile 12-28-2005 12:21 PM

Re: XS Power = Shit?
 
I was also thinking just a cheap Log Manifold but everything find is in the 280-350 range. Anyone know of a company that makes cheaper Log Manifolds for a B Series motor.

NBLKID 12-28-2005 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
90DX, can you post up pics of that SSAC intake manifold? He might just be outsourcing the Skank2/Blox/etc manufacturer. Which means it is alright to buy. Maybe. :S

I have seen their intake manifold for hte h22, its horribly designed on the outside it looks like a decent manifold, but when you look inside its just an aluminum box with 4 runners unevenly sticking thorough it with no smoothed edges at all, prolly worse then a stock intake manifold, well this is all based on the one I saw, I just dont see how people keep supporting this company after all the bad ---- that went down and all of their smart ass replies to customoers.... :3











NBLKID 12-28-2005 01:21 PM

Re: XS Power = Shit?
 

Originally Posted by CarAudiophile
I was also thinking just a cheap Log Manifold but everything find is in the 280-350 range. Anyone know of a company that makes cheaper Log Manifolds for a B Series motor.

http://www.lsdmotorsports.com/

log mani, 225 shipped, way better then ssautochrome

Jcushing 12-28-2005 01:51 PM

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hes refering to the cast skunk2/blox type clones not the sheetmetal ones. all the sheetmetal ones are good for is making runners for ITB setups...

Tom-Guy 12-28-2005 03:05 PM

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Yup, and I have a Skank2 LS intake manifold here to compare his pics to. Hopefully he can get good, high res pics of the inside of the plenum, with no TB, as that's the clincher.

90dx 12-28-2005 03:28 PM

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Im going to go pick up the cable for the camera to computer in a couple hours and i will take some photos.The camera i have here is not the greatest but I will try to get some good shots of the inside plenum area.It is new and unused so it will be good for comparisions.I only have OE manifolds to compare to so this will be good as i was curious how it compares.It is def a complete knock off Skunk/Blow etc.

Scott-EP 12-28-2005 09:41 PM

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im curious to see the intake manifold too. i am considering getting an aftermarket manifold for my z6 build. i am looking to be between 300-350hp to the wheels so it will take everything i can find to make that kind of power out of a z6. i plan on high boost and lots of revs

Tom-Guy 12-28-2005 09:47 PM

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90DX - THANK YOU!

I don't mind buying good cheap parts off of Mister SS AutoShite... if we only buy the good stuff, he'll stop selling crap.

bulldogg9279 12-29-2005 12:00 AM

Re: XS Power = Shit?
 

Originally Posted by CarAudiophile
I was also thinking just a cheap Log Manifold but everything find is in the 280-350 range. Anyone know of a company that makes cheaper Log Manifolds for a B Series motor.

trying to get your hatch boosted before summer?

90dx 12-29-2005 12:01 AM

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How do I resize a photo?I tried posting to imageshack and it said to big?Can i just go in like HP photo editer and shrink the dimensions?Im better with a wrench than the computer :-[

bulldogg9279 12-29-2005 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by 90dx
How do I resize a photo?I tried posting to imageshack and it said to big?Can i just go in like HP photo editer and shrink the dimensions?Im better with a wrench than the computer :-[

yup

90dx 12-29-2005 12:42 AM

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Okay here are some photos.The only thing not pictured is the blowoffvalve that came with it.It is one of those super RFL or whatever.The rail is a 5/8 bore and the manifold has a 62-63mm opening I was kinda in a hurry so not exact with the calipers.The brown you see is glue!Looks like the assembly was a little flat rate so it would def require a cleaning before installation.Personally i was going to clean it up with a dremel and sandblaster before installtion.I have a vtec head coming from Murdoc so I dont think I will be able to use this and the ARP studs i ordered as I am currently building a B18 for my CRX.Anybody know if the runners line up from B18A/B to B16?Can i just chop off the flange and weld the flange from a OE B16 I.Manifold I have coming?

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/5...ed015hj.th.jpg

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/7...ed022ub.th.jpg

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/2...dd039po.th.jpg

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/3...oto41zc.th.jpg

http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/6...ed052ft.th.jpg

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L_S_i 12-29-2005 04:21 AM

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https://www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/...1733#msg591733

Guy-Fast 12-29-2005 04:36 AM

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All there stuff is crap I dont care if a couple are ok why even bother. If you have a gate have a problem what does a new motor cost? Ya do it once do it right. Dont use cheap parts that arent tested. Imagine buildin manifolds and just sellin them without ever tryin to see if the design works. There intake manifolds are yuck. I doubt its skunk knockoff. If its a 62mm intake plenum opening thats stock b18/b16 from 94+ 92+ for b16a. Skunk is 65mm. Overall all I have seen is ---- from these guys. Shiny turds are still turds

90dx 12-29-2005 04:52 AM

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Every part SS auto sells is garbage.No doubt about that.I more interested in finding out if any of there products work or not.When i order a part that is a 1/3 or a 1/4 of the price of the real one I am fully aware im getting junk. If it will make power or get the job done albeit with some cleanup/prep,extra attention paid to keeping a eye on its condition then great.Unfortunetly alot of us can't afford "Ya do it once do it right" so its cheap knock off or nothing.If I could afford to purchase all good top brand parts I would not consider ever buying anything from them.I have spent quite a bit of money on this project as I invested most money into drivetrain/chassis and bottom end parts so I have to get cheap now in order to finsh.I find it amazing though that people are actually shocked when they find out that the $100 turbo manifold they bought is junk as if they expected they were getting a good quality product for 1/4 of the price ::)


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