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v8KiLLA 05-20-2003 06:58 PM

will my car start pinging before the rods go or will it just go?
 
i'm turning up the boost in my 98' type r integra to 8 psi w/a intank fuel pump, stock injectors & 12:1 fmu. will i hear pinging noises first before it blows or will it just blow up? i'm running 7 psi now w/o a prob so let me knizo fo shizo! :o ;)

I30osT 05-20-2003 07:09 PM

Re:will my car start pinging before the rods go or will it just go?
 
poor type-r :( at least AFC/Injector it for us so you dont break our hearts FMU'ing a B18c5. If you paid that muc hfor the car at least do the turbo somewhat right. but you'll prolly just notice yourself running lean at times with the fmu as its not as reliable with the boost levels as a afc or a stand a lone would be.

pissedoffsol 05-21-2003 10:23 AM

Re:will my car start pinging before the rods go or will it just go?
 
thats what i'm saying.

FMU = fucks motors up.

end of story.

RENR 05-21-2003 11:34 AM

Re:will my car start pinging before the rods go or will it just go?
 
dam throw that fmu away! get soe better fuel management. and yes you should hear the pinging before it blows, but who know for how long!

drag0n 05-21-2003 12:19 PM

Re:will my car start pinging before the rods go or will it just go?
 
Not always, your engine might self-distruct without any pinging going on.

RENR 05-21-2003 12:22 PM

Re:will my car start pinging before the rods go or will it just go?
 
That would suck :o

Elite CRX 05-21-2003 01:14 PM

Re:will my car start pinging before the rods go or will it just go?
 
I think with a better fuel managment system would be more reliable. Think about it, you have no lower compression pistons stock (I think its high 10's or low 11's compression). Get an VAFC with some injectors and an hour at the local DYNO, and tune it. With the injectors and tunning, you could probably run 9 or 10 psi. And you know what that means- high compression + more boost + tunning= one fast ass car ;D

shortyz 05-21-2003 01:17 PM

Re:will my car start pinging before the rods go or will it just go?
 
smc ++ 450's

afc + 450's

do one they are cheap and keep your motor from going kaboom. also ur boosting a b18c5.. lookout the compression is high i wouldnt push 10 without tuned hondata..

WhiteTeg24 05-21-2003 07:13 PM

Re:will my car start pinging before the rods go or will it just go?
 
A friend of mine boosted his Type R with an FMU and intank pump and he didn't hear anything at all. But he melted his #4 piston. And that was with 7psi. Please don't do it. Do what everybody's been telling you. Do a VAFC and injectors or something. :'(

LGCubana 05-21-2003 10:51 PM

Re:will my car start pinging before the rods go or will it just go?
 
Please don't make the mistake that I did. Being my first turbo, I blew 1 or more piston rings w/ 9.5 lbs of boost on the original D16Z6 in my DelSol. Due to lack of proper fuel Mgt. I'm currently waiting for the shop to open my block. Down here in S. Fl most shops want $2K for the labor for a major rebuild. i.e. replacing pistons, rings & head gasket.

The mistake is costing me more than 3X what it would cost for a high end Fuel Mgt. system.

The labor on rebuilding an engine can cost more than the parts.

RENR 05-22-2003 12:17 AM

Re:will my car start pinging before the rods go or will it just go?
 
2k for labor?? sheesh, you can get a replacement z6 for 400bux. dam thats robbery :'(

Tad 05-22-2003 12:23 AM

Re:will my car start pinging before the rods go or will it just go?
 

Originally Posted by LGCubana
Please don't make the mistake that I did. Being my first turbo, I blew 1 or more piston rings w/ 9.5 lbs of boost on the original D16Z6 in my DelSol. Due to lack of proper fuel Mgt. I'm currently waiting for the shop to open my block. Down here in S. Fl most shops want $2K for the labor for a major rebuild. i.e. replacing pistons, rings & head gasket.

The mistake is costing me more than 3X what it would cost for a high end Fuel Mgt. system.

The labor on rebuilding an engine can cost more than the parts.

just get a ------- new engine man, duh or are you going to have them put in stronger internals? if your putting in stock parts.. then your a fool. sorry to be harsh but thats the way things are

LGCubana 05-22-2003 10:12 AM

Re:will my car start pinging before the rods go or will it just go?
 
Who in their right mind would even consider replacing damaged rings with the same caliber again ? You're only asking for the same problems to occur again.

I debated the pros & cons of an engine swap before electing to strengthen the original block. I'm going w/ forged low compression pistons & rings with a head gasket that is rated for 15 lbs of boost. I'm not mechanically inclined, so the engine swap option was costing just as much.

Turbodelsolman 05-25-2003 09:03 PM

Re:will my car start pinging before the rods go or will it just go?
 
You might not hear any noises before the rods go, I have gone through 2 of them, so trust me. The first time I heard really really really bad knocking for like 5 seconds than a snap, took it to a shop and the number 2 rod i believe, had broken straight into 2. The second time was without warning and just bent a rod, that was due to some diferent ignition timing problems though. Just be careful if you going to up the boost, and be smart about it.

kine462 05-25-2003 11:37 PM

Re:will my car start pinging before the rods go or will it just go?
 

Originally Posted by LGCubana
Please don't make the mistake that I did. Being my first turbo, I blew 1 or more piston rings w/ 9.5 lbs of boost on the original D16Z6 in my DelSol. Due to lack of proper fuel Mgt. I'm currently waiting for the shop to open my block. Down here in S. Fl most shops want $2K for the labor for a major rebuild. i.e. replacing pistons, rings & head gasket.

The mistake is costing me more than 3X what it would cost for a high end Fuel Mgt. system.

The labor on rebuilding an engine can cost more than the parts.

dude i'll rebuild your motor for half that!!!!


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