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topspeed 05-22-2005 12:55 AM

Who gets smoke when you boots?
 
When i hit boost (about 7 PSI) i see puffs of smoke behind me, is this normal? I had my turbo rebuilt not long ago and i'm running a restrictor valve so i'm pretty sure its not the turbo. The smoke is oil smoke, blue and puffs all the way till i stop hitting boost, and i'm also running a catch can.

sohc_mshue 05-22-2005 01:01 AM

Re: Who gets smoke when you boots?
 
hmm...i never smoke when i hit boots ::)

Have you checked your compression?

hotrex 05-22-2005 06:32 AM

Re: Who gets smoke when you boots?
 
mine smoked cause my ringlands a re broken. 8)

tranceminister 05-22-2005 09:17 AM

Re: Who gets smoke when you boots?
 
I have a little black smoke out the tailpipe under WOT and full boost but thats because I'm in the 11's AFR. I've seen factory STI's smoke out the exhaust and they are still running cats :-\ I wouldn't be to concerned with it depending on ammount, color and the reason.

nonvtec 05-22-2005 11:47 AM

Re: Who gets smoke when you boots?
 
My car puffs black when I powershift :D But otherwise no smoke at all. Fresh re-build and 1K on the motor has a lot to do with that though ;D All motors with lots of miles on them and old rings will eventually give-in to blow-by if beaten on hard enough.

topspeed 05-22-2005 01:35 PM

Re: Who gets smoke when you boots?
 
Ok its my motors then. When i was N/A it would puff very little blue smoke when i beat on it, none that i could even notice just my friend behind me told me so. My compresion test showed 150 all the way across.

93hatchy 05-22-2005 07:21 PM

Re: Who gets smoke when you boots?
 
isnt blue smoke oil?

topspeed 05-22-2005 08:06 PM

Re: Who gets smoke when you boots?
 
UHH YES! ::)

jhmcrx 05-22-2005 09:02 PM

Re: Who gets smoke when you boots?
 
150 eh, you did hold it at WOT right?

topspeed 05-22-2005 10:09 PM

Re: Who gets smoke when you boots?
 
NO, what difference does WOT make while i'm cranking it. I don't even think you're suppose to floor the pedal while cranking it cause it'll flood the damn engine.

jhmcrx 05-23-2005 02:20 AM

Re: Who gets smoke when you boots?
 
disable the fuel by removing the ecu fuse so you DONT spray fuel all over the place ::)

your supposed to keep cranking it at wot untill the needle stops moving

topspeed 05-23-2005 08:40 PM

Re: Who gets smoke when you boots?
 
oic, well i believe its correct at 150. I think i have to be careful with boost now. >:(

Special FX 05-25-2005 12:38 PM

Re: Who gets smoke when you boots?
 
Take out your pcv and put it on your turbo inlet. That is the one thing air filters are good for- creating a slight vacuum on your turbo inlet. Run a big fatty hose from your former pcv down to turbo inlet. Pressure in the crankcase fucks up oil return, ring seating, turbo seal function, turbo lubrication, makes your oil cap start leaking...

Spenser 05-25-2005 01:20 PM

Re: Who gets smoke when you boots?
 

Originally Posted by jhmcrx
disable the fuel by removing the ecu fuse so you DONT spray fuel all over the place ::)

your supposed to keep cranking it at wot untill the needle stops moving

go out and floor it, then don't floor it, I will bet you 100% the readings stay the same.

FooK 05-25-2005 08:11 PM

Re: Who gets smoke when you boots?
 

Originally Posted by Spenser

Originally Posted by jhmcrx
disable the fuel by removing the ecu fuse so you DONT spray fuel all over the place ::)

your supposed to keep cranking it at wot untill the needle stops moving

go out and floor it, then don't floor it, I will bet you 100% the readings stay the same.

how do you bet a %

ill bet -100% they change.

also, the car should be at full operating temp, no ecu fuse installed, WOT

you didnt do the compression test correctly.

ThingyNess 05-25-2005 08:28 PM

Re: Who gets smoke when you boots?
 
FooK's right - the entire point of a compression test is to see how much the engine compresses air when it's at TDC. However, with the throttle plate closed, all the air that's going into the engine has to get sucked past the idle air bypass orifice in the TB, creating significantly less pressure in both the intake manifold and combustion chamber. Think about what the pressure is in your intake manifold when you're idling at 600rpm with the throttle closed. Granted, cranking is only 200-300rpm, but you're still operating with a hell of a lot of vacuum in there @ 200rpm - more than enough to skew the results.

The correct way to do the test is to bring the engine up to operating temperature, disable fuel by either unplugging all your injectors, the ecu fuse, or however you want, and block the throttle open - THEN crank it over and watch the compression.


FooK 05-25-2005 09:32 PM

Re: Who gets smoke when you boots?
 
oh, and i get lots of smoke when i boost...its just from the tires tho ;)

Spenser 05-26-2005 03:46 AM

Re: Who gets smoke when you boots?
 

Originally Posted by ThingyNess
FooK's right - the entire point of a compression test is to see how much the engine compresses air when it's at TDC. However, with the throttle plate closed, all the air that's going into the engine has to get sucked past the idle air bypass orifice in the TB, creating significantly less pressure in both the intake manifold and combustion chamber. Think about what the pressure is in your intake manifold when you're idling at 600rpm with the throttle closed. Granted, cranking is only 200-300rpm, but you're still operating with a hell of a lot of vacuum in there @ 200rpm - more than enough to skew the results.

The correct way to do the test is to bring the engine up to operating temperature, disable fuel by either unplugging all your injectors, the ecu fuse, or however you want, and block the throttle open - THEN crank it over and watch the compression.


I do it with the throttle plate open, but i've done it with the torhttle plate closed, I get identical results.

Spenser 05-26-2005 03:47 AM

Re: Who gets smoke when you boots?
 

Originally Posted by FooK

Originally Posted by Spenser

Originally Posted by jhmcrx
disable the fuel by removing the ecu fuse so you DONT spray fuel all over the place ::)

your supposed to keep cranking it at wot untill the needle stops moving

go out and floor it, then don't floor it, I will bet you 100% the readings stay the same.

how do you bet a %

ill bet -100% they change.

also, the car should be at full operating temp, no ecu fuse installed, WOT

you didnt do the compression test correctly.

I wasn't betting percent, I was betting that they stay 100% the same. I forgot a comma, woop-di---------do LOL OMG WTF BBQ


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