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Old 11-20-2003, 10:38 AM
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hmm i think turbos and carberator are like playing catch with a hand grenade.
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Old 11-21-2003, 03:41 AM
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i like how people have such a strong opinion of something, and completely fail to back it up with any sort of comment regarding what they've heard/read/experienced.


"playing catch with a hand grenade"

well young tyke, they were boosting carbed vehicles long before they were boosting Fuel Injected vehicles. a lot of aircraft engines are stil carbeurated turbos.

please back it up with some kind of supporting statement. your opinion means nothing without something to back it up.
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Old 11-21-2003, 07:26 AM
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airplane engines are turbo?
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Old 11-21-2003, 09:04 AM
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I have Toomey T5's on my banshee and I never burned my leg. Whenever I crash I get thrown 900ft from the bike and since the pipes are tucked into the frame, the bearing carrier, tires, and handlebars take all the abuse.


Turbocharging a Banshee is a little more forgiving because of the fact that its 2-stroke. If you use a variable jet and a fuel pump it takes care of the fuel management part of it. It takes alot to gernade a Banshee. When I ride on the street I used to be able to get the pipes to glow red hot back to the silences doing 6th gear burnouts (I'll try to find the pic )
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Originally Posted by cua0
i like how people have such a strong opinion of something, and completely fail to back it up with any sort of comment regarding what they've heard/read/experienced.


well young tyke, they were boosting carbed vehicles long before they were boosting Fuel Injected vehicles. a lot of aircraft engines are stil carbeurated turbos.
Just found this kind of funny, yes a lot of airplanes are carbed. A funny story about this is in WW2, during the battle of brittian.

The British Supermarine Spitfire was run on a Carb driven Merlin engine, while the germans had develped fuel enjection on their Bf109's. A common Luftwaffe tactic was to fly a 109 mid altitude while the squadron wated above out of site, when a spitfire would go after the lone 109 the pack would dive after the spitfire.

Since the spitfire was Carbed it couldnt dive out or climb up at any large angle of atack to escape because the carb would starve the engine and kill it. The 109's could fly all day upside down because of fuel injection.

Anouther 109 ploy was when you had a spitfire on your tail, was to dive....if the spitfire followed, they'd kill their engine

Just so you "know something about what you are talking about"
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try tuning a sled at 10 000 feet when its -40 with gloves on! and ur dropping ---- into the snow never to be found again!

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Originally Posted by Whitey
I have Toomey T5's on my banshee and I never burned my leg. Whenever I crash I get thrown 900ft from the bike
I was talking about the ones that stick out and wrap around your legs. Post those pics. I love Banshees.
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Originally Posted by shortyz
try tuning a sled at 10 000 feet when its -40 with gloves on! and ur dropping ---- into the snow never to be found again!

word, i lived in idaho, we had sleds break all the time on top of the hill. i didn't care much though, they weren't mine, they were just my ride up to snowboard down.

we had a heli crap out on my buddy on top of the hill once, i have no idea what happened, he dropped us off and never showed up to pick us back up. turns out he couldn't get the thing to start on top of the hill and couldn't come back to get us.
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Old 11-22-2003, 06:49 PM
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i would say that turboing a carburated engine is the way to go. you don't have to f-around with the computer or put bigger injectors or any ---- like that. the most you have to do is re-jet them and a lot of carbs don't even have to be taken off the car to do this. ---- i don't have to do a ------- thing except turn up the boost on my turbo.
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Old 11-22-2003, 10:44 PM
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Since some of you seem to know so much about turboing a carberated engine. care to fill my in on the avearge engine life cycle of an airplane engine between overhuals. actuall having an aviation tech bitching at home about this sort of ---- sort of enlightens you about these things.

What about aviation grade fuels. standard is low lead 110 octane. so being a bit lean or having a hair to much timing isnt such a big deal. lets talk about compression ratio on planes. 9.0:1 at 10,000 feet is like 6:1 at sea level.

You really want to go down this road go ahead. there is no good way to turbo a carb. sure its been done but its not the best way to fuel the engine. nor is it such a great way to manage spark. If carbs were so great dont you think honda would still be using them or GM or Ford or Nissan or Toyota in Fact harelys now have EFI and to make things even more interesting so do most new planes. No reason to stick with antiqauted technology from 1910.


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