turbo without charge pipes?
 

hey guys, i recently bought a turbo and before i spend a while bunch of time and money installing it (and possibly finding out that it has leaky seals,doest work,etc) can i throw it on my motor. im saying can i put just the turbo, manifold, and d-pipe on my car but have no pipes running anywhere other than a filter on the intake housing. it would work wouldnt it? it would just spool and blow air out of the exhaust housing into the engine bay right?

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yeah, just don't do it excessively, it can kill the turbo spooling the ---- out of it with no pressure to slow it down. anyways, that sounds like a good plan to see if the turbo's any good.

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i wouldnt do it at all

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it should be o.k. as long as you don't spool the ---- out of it, just let it idle to see if the seels are good. but don't drive around or anything ::)

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if i were you i would just use some radiator hose or some PVC pipe if you're looking for a ghetto setup for a little while. you wouldn't wanna overspool the bitch and kill your new turbo :-X

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how about telling him why he shouldnt instead of giving a shitty answer.

why should he not do it?

what are the consequences of doing such a thing?

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I thought they did explain. The turbo has no pressure against it so it just spins like a mother fucker, past what it should spin at.

Let's say your turbo is a hair dryer and normally it runs with your hand over the end, blocking the air. Now if you let your hand off, it revs alot higher because there is nothing to stop the air(motor, throttle body). The hair dryer was designed to only spin as much as it would if your hand was over the end of it. Think of it as over revving your motor. Your motor wasn't built for 12,000rpm, so would it be a good idea to rev to 12,000rpm?
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ok: your wastegate only opens when the desired psi is reached; if this never happens, the turbo will spin way outta control, which is not a good idea if you care about it. and just letting it idle to see if it leaks wont really work since thats when you have the least oil pressure (unless its cold)

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Yea id just wait till u got ur set up ready.. you can usually have a decent idea from visual inspection if its gonna be a piece of $H/T. However i have run my car with blown charge pipes and i think i may have fucked up my turbo by doing that.. ---- started smoking the next day.. Oh wait then again.. That was my Ringlands loving boost.. Sorry

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i have a shitty turbo, so ive done it before.
i disconnected the pipe from the outlet of the intercooler.
man was that a cool sound, CRAZY loud. but as they said it will wreck your turbo because its spooling until it gets a preset pressure, but it will never build any pressure.
it can wreck bearings, etc.
but if your just going somewhere, as long as you don't put a load on the engine (ie, more than 0 vacuum) you will be fine.

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0 vacuum is wot, the only way to be past 0 vacuum is if you're boosted ;)

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Isn't there one thing everyone is missing.... You will ---- the turbo if you run it for even a shot period of time with no oil going to it. Just think about a bearing spinning at 100-150,000RPM with no oil :-X

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I hope he isn't thinking he can run it with no oil. :-X I'll just assume he knows better. :-\
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of course oil would be going to the turbo, how can i check for bad oil seals without oil running to it :P

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i think he plans on having his oil lines hooked up ;)

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i drove my car without charged pipes during an install to a girls house about 40 miles away... and also to the exhaust shop about 10 times... just dont rev the car... i kept it under 4k rpms

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what if you found a cap to fit the compressor outlet and drilled a 1/2" hole in it or something? then the turbo could build enough boost to open the waste gate without completely capping the air flow. i guess the size of the hole would be critical... anyone know how many CFM a 1/2" hole flows at 8 psi? :)

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I think it should be fine as long as when he drives with it on, he doesnt rev too high,
like makes sure to stay under 4-5krpm,

most turbos we use dont make full boost till around 3k anyways, by 5krpm it certainly shouldnt be overboosting enough to destroy itself,

I mean yeah if he revs all the way up to fuel cut,
it might not be good.

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i meant 0.000001 hg, so i just rounded it to 0 :P

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bwahahaha, you made a booty call in the middle of an install, i think that takes the cake. that would have been funny if it was an hmt so cal. meet/install. i could see someone leaving steve, raffi, renr, etc. in the middle of an install saying 'i'll be right back, let me go hit this chick off real quick' ;D

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There is one thing to be considered though, the turbo won't get much exhaust to drive it when the motor isn't force fed any air. This is how a turbo builds up pressure. However, do not let any dirt or debris get into your compressor, it WILL eat the blades. And of course, don't drive fast with a large boost leak, at high rpms you might get enough energy to drive the turbo to an overspin.

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Dosn't say anything about oil lines there :P I just wanted to make sure you knew that, there are alot of dumb fucks out there :-\

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he's not trying to build pressure with the turbo, he's just trying to make sure the seals are good, oil will be flowing throught it as long as the car is running, maybe not as much pressure at idle, but it should give him an idea if the seals are o.k.