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cornfuzed 04-06-2008 05:56 PM

turbo aveo?
 
i was looking in to doing a turbo setup for a friend on his new car (2005 chevy aveo with 100k for only $2500, and it gets 45mpg, kinda gay but a good work/commuter car)

he bought it and immidetly decided that 103hp was not enough especially knowin how much power other 1.6's are putting out so i am just here to ask what size turbo would be good?
i was thinking of an old dsm (like 14b or whatever their called) or one of those $150 t3/t4 ebay knockoffs with an internal wg set at arround 7psi, i know those turbos are kinda small but he is only looking for about 180whp (now it's arround 70-75whp) and he really dosen't want to go above about 10-12psi and is not going to build the engine, tho it has new oem pistons and rings about 8k miles ago

also will the maf be able to detect the boost to supply boost up to an ammount like a honda?

and dose anybody know where i might be able to get bigger injectors? (i think stock are like 250cc or so their tiny)

i appriciate the help, and keep in mind with the suggestions it is not intended to be a race car or any thing like that just a little commuter that gets good gas milage and is a pretty decent sleeper

any tips or suggestions would help, but if you are here to jew up the thread because it's an aveo go ---- off

cornfuzed 04-06-2008 06:08 PM

Re: turbo aveo?
 
here are some things i was looking at (just an idea let me know what you think)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/TURBO...7052QQtcZphoto
$139 t3/t4 turbo, it says it's good for 350-375hp i am thinking it sounds good for up to about 250whp on the 1.6L aveo?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/92-93...9506QQtcZphoto
or somthing like this i is a complete civic d series turbo kit($550), then just sell the manny and build a homemade one (and i will need to make a homemade intake manny tho to because the stocker is plastic and because the throttle body it tiny and kills flow so i was thinking about either trying to find a bigger one or just use on off a different car and making it work with the stock tps) as for the manny i was thinking about just building a log for the exhaust to bolt up the turbo but the dude with the car will probubly want the "blingyness" of a polished ram horn but i don't think there is enough room as it is we will have to throw the battery under the rear seats to get it out of the way

all i am really stuck on is injectors and some way to raise fuel pressure, i was thinking for arround 200whp i will need 393cc or bigger but i think some 450's would be perfect

i was looking at this but was wondering how others are controlling their fuel
http://www.andysautosport.com/chevro...x00008784.html

Dive_Miguel 04-06-2008 08:08 PM

Re: turbo aveo?
 
I'll Jew it up a little lol! :1 :1

I would say a small 50 trim t3 or a 14b would be a good choice for something like that. I would only get an ebay turbo if it was a LEGITAMITE one or a used one with little shaft play. Engine management might be a bit tricky though. Any room to work with? I do'nt know much about the engine in that car so it may be funky.

We need a mega squirt following, ie more pioneers that can come up with maps for many applications.

jmhalder 04-06-2008 10:16 PM

Re: turbo aveo?
 
i'd hack up a F/IC to work with it, just to keep OBD-II, i know here in illinois, you still gotta pass the computer test... if emmisions arent a requirement, FMU ftw. :8

Bone1 04-06-2008 11:35 PM

Re: turbo aveo?
 
12b :)

cornfuzed 04-07-2008 12:56 AM

Re: turbo aveo?
 
i have a laptop to tune a stand alone but is it worth the money for just arround 180-200hp?
or would i be better to just try to find an ecotec 2.2 or 2.4 and throw it in there and have like 150-175hp?

as for the emissions i don't know as it is a friends and he lives in annother county, some make you some don't

also if anyone could give me some tips for getting it goin and boosting then go for power after that

and dose anyone know where i might be able to find a header flange for the aveo's e-tec 2 engine or if there are any ss autoshity headers laying arround i can jew up in to a turbo manny?

crx2211 04-07-2008 06:49 AM

Re: turbo aveo?
 
Daily drive the Aveo and buy a weekender to play with. If you add power or do a motor swap it'll be unreliable and get worse mpg which is what the car is meant for. I'd love to have an Aveo for a daily driver as it doesn't get much better mpg wise. Modding it would make it just another unreliable project car. IMO there are better platforms to spend time and $ on.

edge(eg2) 04-07-2008 09:01 AM

Re: turbo aveo?
 

Originally Posted by crx2211
Daily drive the Aveo and buy a weekender to play with. If you add power or do a motor swap it'll be unreliable and get worse mpg which is what the car is meant for. I'd love to have an Aveo for a daily driver as it doesn't get much better mpg wise. Modding it would make it just another unreliable project car. IMO there are better platforms to spend time and $ on.

+++1

Dive_Miguel 04-07-2008 11:35 AM

Re: turbo aveo?
 
whatever you do, do it without the madtyte jdm garbage.

seerex 04-07-2008 02:30 PM

Re: turbo aveo?
 
Post pic's of E/bay to see how much room there is.

cornfuzed 04-07-2008 03:46 PM

Re: turbo aveo?
 

Originally Posted by crxvtec91
Post pic's of E/bay to see how much room there is.

ok i will this weekend (i don't have a cam so i have to barrow one)

cornfuzed 04-08-2008 01:59 AM

Re: turbo aveo?
 
will the stock aveo's mass airflow sensor be able to read boost up to a certin point so that i don't have to worry about running like maga squirt of somthing just like a honda
so all i would need is bigger injectors turbo/piping/oil lines/intercooler i am just worried about engine management worst comes to worst howmuch will a stand along module cost?

b18. 04-08-2008 03:45 AM

Re: turbo aveo?
 
You get more retarded all the time.

Someone ------- ban this idiot already.

crx2211 04-08-2008 05:07 AM

Re: turbo aveo?
 

Originally Posted by wafflesincars
You get more retarded all the time.

Someone ------- ban this idiot already.

x eleventeen

t_cel_t 04-08-2008 05:43 AM

Re: turbo aveo?
 
do you even know how a maf works?

xternal 04-08-2008 07:15 AM

Re: turbo aveo?
 

Originally Posted by edge(eg2)
+++1

Haha my daily is 1300 efi Toyota. 18Miles / litre of fuel , 20$ gets me to work and back for a week ;D
I would say keep it for a daily since they are also very good on petrol , if you want to boost use a 16G :6

cornfuzed 04-08-2008 09:45 AM

Re: turbo aveo?
 

Originally Posted by t_cel_t
do you even know how a maf works?

yes and i also read on here that a stock honda maf can read boost up to 10.5psi or somthing like that so i was asking if anyone knew if the aveo's did also

Econo-Box 04-08-2008 10:33 AM

Re: turbo aveo?
 

Originally Posted by cornfuzed
nope just know my ----


Originally Posted by cornfuzed
i should be banned because i know what i am talking about?
your a ------- idiot mang



Originally Posted by cornfuzed
i was looking in to doing a gay

he bought it and immidetly decided that 103hp was not enough especially knowin how much power other 1.6's are putting out so i am just here to ask what size turbo would be good?.......and he really dosen't want to go above about 10-12psi .


K im all done with you. its too ------- easy. I think the fact athat you can not find a turbo size suitable for a 1.-------6 liter speaks VOLUMES about your mechanical ability.

b18. 04-08-2008 03:01 PM

Re: turbo aveo?
 

Originally Posted by cornfuzed
yes and i also read on here that a stock honda maf can read boost up to 10.5psi or somthing like that so i was asking if anyone knew if the aveo's did also

Orly? I'm pretty sure it can't see anything at all, because there isn't a Mass Air Flow on a Honda, they use density based Manifold Absolute Pressure sensors.

Kill yourself.

t_cel_t 04-08-2008 03:09 PM

Re: turbo aveo?
 
MAP>stupid ford hot wire in air>MAF

whiterice 04-08-2008 03:14 PM

Re: turbo aveo?
 

Originally Posted by wafflesincars
Orly? I'm pretty sure it can't see anything at all, because there isn't a Mass Air Flow on a Honda, they use density based Manifold Absolute Pressure sensors.

Kill yourself.

YA RLY

Hondas with MAFs

’03-04 Accord L4 ULEV
’05-07+ Accord L4
’06-07+ Civic
’07+ CR-V
’07+ Element
’07+ Odyssey

So I guess you have to kill yourself too.

ososlohatch 04-08-2008 03:14 PM

Re: turbo aveo?
 
you are very cornfruzed :y

b18. 04-08-2008 03:35 PM

Re: turbo aveo?
 

Originally Posted by whiterice
YA RLY

Hondas with MAFs

’03-04 Accord L4 ULEV
’05-07+ Accord L4
’06-07+ Civic
’07+ CR-V
’07+ Element
’07+ Odyssey

So I guess you have to kill yourself too.

---- you Whitey, all those are new and useless vehicles.

Real Hondas have MAP sensors. This guy is a douche bag who should stop polluting threads.

Eat chode.

whiterice 04-08-2008 05:04 PM

Re: turbo aveo?
 

Originally Posted by wafflesincars
---- you Whitey, all those are new and useless vehicles.

Real Hondas have MAP sensors. This guy is a douche bag who should stop polluting threads.

Eat chode.

You're looking like a douche with your comments too.

But I do agree on his pollution.

b18. 04-08-2008 05:21 PM

Re: turbo aveo?
 

Originally Posted by whiterice
You're looking like a douche with your comments too.

But I do agree on his pollution.

I really don't care if I look like a douche, I don't go sending people off with inaccurate information.

Econo-Box 04-08-2008 06:02 PM

Re: turbo aveo?
 
claiming to know your ---- all the while oh and lets not leave out how he just forgets situations like this when he gets owned by multiples. he will later say it never happened and he knows his ----.

thanks for sharing your cornucopia of Good Automotive knowledge as you called it.

cornfuzed 04-08-2008 10:57 PM

Re: turbo aveo?
 
i guess that there are to menny insecure assholes in here so they have to try to start ---- for no reason

as for me finding a turbo for a 1.6, yes i know what would work for i 1.6 i was just asking for peoples opinions as it has a 6500rpm redline and 6650rpm fuel cutoff so it dose not push as much air as a 1.6 spinning 8-9k rpm i was already thinking of a 14b but i wanted to hear opinions (what this site is for when people like you all are not jacking others threads)

as for me giving wrong info, um... no i have not given anyone any info or advice i was asking opinions of intelegent people not fagbags that are afraid to admit that they take it in the ass so they start ---- for no reasong

as for me polluting peoples threads why don't you look at who made this thread then go kill yourself

crx2211 04-08-2008 11:14 PM

Re: turbo aveo?
 
AVEO=DAILY DRIVER! LEAVE THE POOR ------- THING ALONE! O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 :8 :8 :8 :8 :8 :8 :8 :8 :8 :8 :8 :8 :8 :8 :8 :8 ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

E-b0la 04-09-2008 01:23 AM

Re: turbo aveo?
 
RHB5 should make a nice flat torque curve.

No sense in a turbo larger than your goals, especially on that pile.

QikEnuF 04-09-2008 02:05 AM

Re: turbo aveo?
 
Whitey owned 2 with 1 stone with the quickness

cornfuzed 04-09-2008 03:34 PM

Re: turbo aveo?
 

Originally Posted by E-b0la
RHB5 should make a nice flat torque curve.

No sense in a turbo larger than your goals, especially on that pile.

ok thanks
and i will get the engine bay pic this weekend

cornfuzed 04-10-2008 01:21 AM

Re: turbo aveo?
 
ok so howmuch will it cost for a standalone fuel system and is it worth it
as for not turboing the car the person i am doing it for is dead set on it he is not changing his mind

HMTguy 04-10-2008 01:22 AM

Re: turbo aveo?
 
I sure as hope he gains enough sense to not let your dumb ass touch his car.

cornfuzed 04-10-2008 02:08 AM

Re: turbo aveo?
 

Originally Posted by jagojon3
I sure as hope he gains enough sense to not let your dumb ass touch his car.

and what the ---- is that supposed to mean?

b18. 04-10-2008 02:48 AM

Re: turbo aveo?
 

Originally Posted by cornfuzed
and what the ---- is that supposed to mean?

That you are an idiot and would undoubtedly grenade his car.

Faggot.

D16y7DX 04-10-2008 03:44 AM

Re: turbo aveo?
 
Okay in defense of this fruit trying to turbo an Aveo...hondas are gas mileage cars, toyotas are gas mileage cars, so are nissans for the most part. My point is all the cars we work on for the most part are economy cars. If you want to tell him he is dumb for wanting to turbo a 1.6 liter aveo motor go around to anyone who has a d-series motor, or a b16 and tell them they are dumb for turboing daily driver 1.6 liter motors. If everyone here turbo'd a car that was built to be fast it wouldn't be homemadeturbo.com. Go for it bro turbo the Aveo. push a little more power out of that turd, a friend of mine had an aveo in high school holy crap he couldn't even go on the highway it wouldn't top 50.

cornfuzed 04-10-2008 04:03 AM

Re: turbo aveo?
 

Originally Posted by D16y7DX
Okay in defense of this fruit trying to turbo an Aveo...hondas are gas mileage cars, toyotas are gas mileage cars, so are nissans for the most part. My point is all the cars we work on for the most part are economy cars. If you want to tell him he is dumb for wanting to turbo a 1.6 liter aveo motor go around to anyone who has a d-series motor, or a b16 and tell them they are dumb for turboing daily driver 1.6 liter motors. If everyone here turbo'd a car that was built to be fast it wouldn't be homemadeturbo.com. Go for it bro turbo the Aveo. push a little more power out of that turd, a friend of mine had an aveo in high school holy crap he couldn't even go on the highway it wouldn't top 50.

yeah but they are pretty fun they remind me of a gocart like when you are a kid, you know with a lawnmower engine and a centrifical clutch only went about 25-30mph but fun as hell
i think some coilovers and about 5-8psi of boost so it's arround 160-180whp it would be great fun
but i was thinking about telling the guy to order a wet nitrous kit with 35 and 50hp jets so that he can get a general idea of the power that the turbo will add and when he has the turbo running about 180whp a 35shot will take him to arroun 220 and a 50 will be arround 240whp or so but allot of torque im hoping to run low 14's with like 5psi on street tires im just going to have a hard time finding a clutch to hold almost 3x the power of stock and halfshafts

but i agree with you 100%
tho i might just try to talk him in to buying a $500-600 civic and a $400-500 turbo setup and hope for about 200whp and high 13's on some shitty 8inch slicks i got in the garage

dose anybody know where i could find forged internals or clutches or halfshafts or anything that would be a factor when adding that much power to such a small engine

b18. 04-10-2008 04:05 AM

Re: turbo aveo?
 
:3

crx2211 04-10-2008 04:12 AM

Re: turbo aveo?
 

Originally Posted by jagojon3
I sure as hope he gains enough sense to not let your dumb ass touch his car.

Ahahaha! Best response yet.

"Ima stick naawzzz and turbooz on my go kart Aveo and run 11teens!!!!"

cornfuzed 04-10-2008 12:56 PM

Re: turbo aveo?
 
how well would a garret t25 holdup on the low revving 1.6L?


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