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D16Y8-Z6 04-16-2005 10:13 PM

Track times. D15. 13's. **Slips on Pg.2** Updated**
 
Island Dragway in New Jersey.

Last run of the night I turned the boost up via the adjustable WG arm and boost creeped a lot.

Last thing I saw was 11-12 psi at 7k in 3rd gear.

Rod snapped, and I coasted to a 13.8 @ 82 MPH.


BTW this is a 97 Civic EX SEDAN with Y7 head and B7 block, t3 42 48 and a side mount.

From best to worst.

2.159 <@~~~Best 60 ft
13.738 @ 102.69 Hit rev limit in 2nd gear. 7 psi

2.235
13.771 @ 102.91 <@~~~Best MPH Hit rev limit in 1st gear. 7psi

2.186
13.854 @ 96.47 Charge pipe blew off, would have been 13.6 or better. 7-8 psi

2.174
13.884 @ 82.18 !!!!!!!!! Creeped to 11-12 psi and threw a rod.

Total of 11 runs.

New low compression motor going in this weekend.

J-MAN 04-16-2005 10:31 PM

Re: Track times. D15. 13's.
 
damn those are good numbers. post pics of your set-up, and do you have any suspension upgrades and interior?

D16Y8-Z6 04-16-2005 10:45 PM

Re: Track times. D15. 13's.
 
No digi cam, Im poor remember. Haha.

Exact setup is y7 head, z6 i/m, cam gear, B7 block, hf mani, 42 48, 2.5 inch dp. 3 inch straight pipe, Uberdata base map, dsm 450's, DX TRANS.

97 Ex Sedan. No ac or ps, no seats, Ground control suspension.

Shitty ass sumitomo tires. Kinda happy with the 60 ft's. Kinda.

Thanks for the positive feedback.

silverac 04-16-2005 10:54 PM

Re: Track times. D15. 13's.
 
nice times.hopefully my integra (b18b) will run 13's with a t3 .42/.48.

crx304 04-16-2005 11:18 PM

Re: Track times. D15. 13's.
 
sorry man... i throw the BS flag......

post a slip

mike

D16Y8-Z6 04-16-2005 11:27 PM

Re: Track times. D15. 13's.
 
Want all my 11 runs ? Full specs

crx304 04-16-2005 11:33 PM

Re: Track times. D15. 13's.
 
honestly, i'd like to see something...

i have a built crx mini-me pushing 15psi and only managed to hit 14.3 @ 103 w/ 2.3 0-60ft, due to traction issues.

so a d15 sedan @ 7-8 psi like u stated to be running 13.7 @ 102mph w/ 2.1 0-60 ft seems pretty damn sweet to me... or just bullshit

show a slip or 2

mike

D16Y8-Z6 04-16-2005 11:47 PM

Re: Track times. D15. 13's.
 
I just spoke to my pal hes gonna try and get his scanner working by tomorrow.
HOPEFULLY.

No offense to you now dude.
But you probably cant drive.

I had insane traction problems. But on my good runs I never even full throttled it.

Were you dump clutching ? Because I always slip it. Act 4 puck unsprung.

Full throttle shifting ? I do. It helps. A lot.

Ill try my best to get them up by tomorrow.

But heres the list of my best run

RT .329 (like it matters)
60 ft 2.159
330ft 5.887
1/8th 8.937
MPH 83.03
1000 11.545
1/4 13.738
MPH 102.69
BTW this was the run when I TOUCHED rev limit in 2nd gear.

hotrex 04-17-2005 12:03 AM

Re: Track times. D15. 13's.
 
it is hard to believe dude... a d series on 7 lbs, especially a d15 is slow as ----

D16Y8-Z6 04-17-2005 12:08 AM

Re: Track times. D15. 13's.
 
I always hated this.

And what makes a d15 so diff than a d16. So much slower ?

Its just most people drive like fags. Seriously. Beerbong ran 12's, on near double my boost, why cant I run High 13's.

Is it so unbelievable for a bolt on gsr to run 14.6 @ 95 ?

I will TRY to get slips up tomorrow. Call my pals with digi cams too.

BTW my worst run was 14.2 @ 100.92. 2.441 60 ft.

D16Y8-Z6 04-17-2005 12:24 AM

Re: Track times. D15. 13's.
 
Forgot to mention.

On a DX TRANS !!!

More unbelievable now ?

BoostedBSeries 04-17-2005 12:39 AM

Re: Track times. D15. 13's.
 
just to let all you fuckers know, this dude can drive.

ill tell ya a little story. ive been told by numerous people that im a good driver, and i believe myself to be.
Joe (d16y8-z6) and i were at the track one day before his car was done. i was up running my b16 ef and he cam along for the ride. id been clicking off consistent 14.92-14.98s all night, like clockwork with consistent 2.2 60 foots. which is not bad for a car with just a crappy intake and a 2" exhaust.
well i got the opportunity for the last run of the night to take my other friends hatch for a run. (usdm type r powered obd2 EFhatch) but my car was already in the staging lanes so i told joe to take it for a run. he had never been to the strip before, just watched and had launched hundreds of times on the street. joe had never even SAT in my drivers seat, let alone driven the car. well, i tell him the shift points and where ive been launching from and he takes my car.

the fucker clicks off another 2.2 60 foot (remember this is on crappy and camber worn 185/60/14s) and rips a 14.800 in my car. kid had never set foot in it and totally destroys my best run of the night.

this ----------er can drive. no excuses. if he says he ran 13's, i would bet my 1st born on it. dont doubt what u dont know. its a quick car with a FAST driver.

my .02

Brett

bumblezc 04-17-2005 12:44 AM

Re: Track times. D15. 13's.
 
I want proof too!!

14.5 due to traction issues on Kumho tires
On a DOHC ZC at 8psi, with suspension and almost bare interior on a 90 hatch.
2.5 dp to no exhuast, TE with a pretty round tune (not widebanded but tweak by feeling for 2 months)
That a 2165 lb chassis to a 2568 lb chassis too!

crx304 04-17-2005 12:44 AM

Re: Track times. D15. 13's.
 
i'm just saying.... #'s don't lie man....

7-8 psi + D15 + 2500lb car + 2.2 60 ft does not = 13.7!!!!! plain and simple~

bumblezc 04-17-2005 12:45 AM

Re: Track times. D15. 13's.
 

Originally Posted by D16Y8-Z6
Its just most people drive like fags. Seriously. Beerbong ran 12's, on near double my boost, why cant I run High 13's.

IT"S CALLED SLICKS!!!!!

J-MAN 04-17-2005 01:18 AM

Re: Track times. D15. 13's.
 
i weighed my car the other day and it is 2600 without me in it :(, so i hope i can at least hit 14's on 10 psi and y8. but i will know once the track opens for a test and tune.

still think they are good numbers.

MikeJ-2009 04-17-2005 01:49 AM

Re: Track times. D15. 13's.
 
I had an 89 HF crx (completely stripped) with a d16y8 @ 10 psi on a T3 48/60 and ran a 13.84 @ 101mph on nitto 555r's.

For a heavier car, a smaller turbo, worse tires, and non VTAKK (yO!) those numbers are damn good.


Bone1 04-17-2005 03:54 AM

Re: Track times. D15. 13's.
 

Originally Posted by D16Y8-Z6
Forgot to mention.

On a DX TRANS !!!

More unbelievable now ?

The same thing was done about 9 years ago in a Del Sol S, way before all this HMT and chipped ECU's got out. Billy aka ForcedSol went about 13.6 @ 103 mph before exploding the motor. Billy Roberts is know part owner of Autolab LLC in Louisville KY.

Bone1 04-17-2005 04:04 AM

Re: Track times. D15. 13's.
 

Originally Posted by bumblezc
I want proof too!!

14.5 due to traction issues on Kumho tires
On a DOHC ZC at 8psi, with suspension and almost bare interior on a 90 hatch.
2.5 dp to no exhuast, TE with a pretty round tune (not widebanded but tweak by feeling for 2 months)
That a 2165 lb chassis to a 2568 lb chassis too!

All in the driver. D16A6 with ZC pistons in a non gutted CRX = 14.6 on street tires, 14.3 on slicks.

Some can drive.


D16Y8-Z6 04-17-2005 09:29 AM

Re: Track times. D15. 13's.
 
Thanks for the guys supporting me.
As bone says, its in the driver.
And im not saying the car weight 2000 lbs, but its certainly not 2500 anymore.
To be honest, I would have done better if I didnt touch my rev limiter or raised my boost a bit more.

I knew I should have borrowed a video camera from someone, but I went to the track with only one other pal who was ALSO driving h is car.

Pics of slips will be scanned tomorrow. My friend just got home from a club at 10 this morning and is sleeping till tomorrow.

stillnoturbo 04-17-2005 09:55 AM

Re: Track times. D15. 13's.
 
I hate goddamn haterz. The majority of the time it's folks who do all types of ---- to there car and still get shitty numbesr and then blame it on something else. Oh my GSR only did blah blah blah so your little 1.5 couldn't of don't that. Whats Joe got to hide? A hole in his block to prove it that he was putting that engine to it's fullest. He's got my trust 110%. I don't need some goddamn slip to prove it. Well done gringo.

D16Y8-Z6 04-17-2005 12:34 PM

Re: Track times. D15. 13's.
 
Thanks homeboy lol

B16Drag 04-17-2005 12:48 PM

Re: Track times. D15. 13's.
 
much props buddy.

whiterice 04-17-2005 12:59 PM

Re: Track times. D15. 13's.
 
good job buddy. hopefully i can hit 13s in a couple weeks w/my stock d15. i hit 14 flat, but i need alot of practice launching.

BoosTedZSix 04-17-2005 12:59 PM

Re: Track times. D15. 13's.
 
props man. very good times. whats so unbelievable? pat runs 12.6. yeah with slicks. but how many other people with z6's on slicks can even get close to touchin his times. good ---- mang!! ;D

FooK 04-17-2005 02:52 PM

Re: Track times. D15. 13's.
 
i believe it...no worries.

good job.

D16Y8-Z6 04-17-2005 07:45 PM

Re: Track times. D15. 13's.
 
Appreciate the support guys thanks.
Im still gonna most likely have the slips up tomorrow.
All 11 of them lol.

BTW the new motor is in ! JDM woahh Vx block (stamped d15b but not a true d15b) with the y7 head. 7.8:1 compression. I dont like it, but as long as it gets me 13's again ill be happy.

BLaze 04-17-2005 08:52 PM

Re: Track times. D15. 13's.
 
Does the Y7 head flow quite a bit better then the B7 head? Also what was your rim/slick size you were running? Nice times man, crank the boost on this new motor! BTW, whats the CFM flow on your T3?

Blaze

D16Y8-Z6 04-17-2005 08:57 PM

Re: Track times. D15. 13's.
 
I doubt it flows any better than the b7 head.
Might, might not.
All I know is it had 1 mm larger valves and raises compression to 10.1:1 so I use it.

Slicks ? No.
Rota Citcuit 8's 15 inch. 195 50 15. 20 psi. Pretty much new.


CFM flow I couldnt tell you, not much I assume since people say its tiny.

Thanks man.

Blahblahblah 04-17-2005 10:01 PM

Re: Track times. D15. 13's.
 

Originally Posted by stillnoturbo
I don't need some goddamn slip to prove it.

It's not NEEDED but requested. The guy is willing to back it... I don't see what the deal is outside of that. Nice numbers, btw.

nonvtec 04-17-2005 10:04 PM

Re: Track times. D15. 13's.
 
Y7 head bumps the compression way up, anyone dogging this setup because it is a D15 is stupid. A D15 with 10:1 compression and a z6 IM is probably making almost what a z6 makes stock so... the D15 argument fails. I'm just impressed you did it with a DX tranny, cuz they suck for sure. Probably could have shaved another 4 or 5 tenths off with an EX tranny.

D16Y8-Z6 04-18-2005 05:34 AM

Re: Track times. D15. 13's.
 
Nonvtec. I busted my ex trans last week. Couldnt get 2nd gear to go in for over a second. And I ran 14.7 last week with it like that.

So I put in my spare dx.

Heres the thing, I hate the dx trans.
But theres one good thing about it. TRACTION !

2nd gear didnt need to be modulated like the ex trans did. Ex trans left me smoking 2nd gear.

Id hit 2nd with the dx trans and car would slingshot. Kinda helped me in a way.

But with slicks, Ex trans for sure.

88crxSi 04-18-2005 08:52 AM

Re: Track times. D15. 13's.
 
swap the final drive from the ex trans to the dx and you'll get a hybrid EX (the FD is the only diff, i think) ;D

wdwalker 04-18-2005 09:20 AM

Re: Track times. D15. 13's.
 
EX/Si
1st-----3.250
2nd-----1.900
3rd-----1.250
4th-----0.909
5th-----0.750 for Si HB and Del sol Si or 0.702 for 2 dr or 4 dr sedan
Final Drive---4.250

DX/LX
1st-----3.250
2nd-----1.762
3rd-----1.172
4th-----0.909
5th-----0.702
Final Drive---4.058

so the 2nd, 3rd, and maybe 5th gears are different, not just the final drive. courtesy of Mista Bone's website (http://home.cinci.rr.com/mistab0ne/tranny.html)

wdwalker 04-18-2005 09:25 AM

Re: Track times. D15. 13's.
 
and congrats on those awesome numbers, i havent taken my turbo d15 to the track yet but i can only pray that my numbers are that good. doubt it since my clutch is fried and im on the dx tranny... crossin my fingers ;)

SkunT 04-18-2005 09:44 AM

Re: Track times. D15. 13's.
 
nice numbers man. i buy it.

D16Y8-Z6 04-18-2005 08:22 PM

Re: Track times. D15. 13's.
 
=)

Ya im well aware of the interchangability of D trannys.

Ill do it. One day.

Turbo-Dan 04-18-2005 09:18 PM

Re: Track times. D15. 13's.
 
what fuel management were you using?

in my crx dx i did 13.8 @ 99 with a 2.1 60 on street tires with 9psi.

full throttle shifting may be your thing but i would never do that to my car, a real driver will shift and drive just as fast as you with letting off between shifts.
full throttle shifts are dangerous and careless, for lazy drivers that can't move their feet fast enough imo

i guess i believe the times, ive seen stranger numbers, but damn thats fast for that pos motor and fat car

btw, its 2005 and you can't scan or get a digital picture of your slips?

FooK 04-18-2005 09:38 PM

Re: Track times. D15. 13's.
 

Originally Posted by Turbo-Dan
what fuel management were you using?

in my crx dx i did 13.8 @ 99 with a 2.1 60 on street tires with 9psi.

full throttle shifting may be your thing but i would never do that to my car, a real driver will shift and drive just as fast as you with letting off between shifts.
full throttle shifts are dangerous and careless, for lazy drivers that can't move their feet fast enough imo

i guess i believe the times, ive seen stranger numbers, but damn thats fast for that pos motor and fat car

btw, its 2005 and you can't scan or get a digital picture of your slips?

full throttle shift can also help keep a good spin on your turbine wheel.

Turbo-Dan 04-18-2005 10:12 PM

Re: Track times. D15. 13's.
 

Originally Posted by FooK

full throttle shift can also help keep a good spin on your turbine wheel.

thats what a bov is for

if you can't lift your foot between shifts and still keep good times maybe its time you swapped an auto tranny into your ride O0


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