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b16crex 07-26-2006 02:59 PM

Timing belt wooooos :(
 
alrihgt, i set my cam gears to TDC, i set the crank pully to tdc. installed the timing belt correctly.. My question is this: I can't get my car to start up and run or even idle. due to some tuning problems with my dsm 450s. How do I go about setting base timing on my b16 without the car running? is it even possible? it needs to be at 16 degrees BTDC or 18 BTDC. Can i set my base timing or do i need to have the car running first?

HMTguy 07-26-2006 03:02 PM

Re: Timing belt wooooos :(
 
Why do you need to set your base timing with the car not running? Your car will still start with the timing off due to the distributor being moved all the way in either direction. Figure out why your car isn't running, fix it, and then worry about base timing.

Donald125 07-26-2006 03:05 PM

Re: Timing belt wooooos :(
 
burn the chip with a base map, scale the injectors correctly.
make sure cam timing is correct then adjust the came timing with the car running. :S

how doesn`t it start anyway. does it WANTED to start then stall? does it make any abnprmal noise? does it stumble?

HMTguy 07-26-2006 03:06 PM

Re: Timing belt wooooos :(
 
Firing order...?

b16crex 07-26-2006 04:01 PM

Re: Timing belt wooooos :(
 
the firing order is in the correct order. The timing belt was set to tdc on both cam gears and crank pulley. The basemap i have will not allow the car to idle. THe wideband reads 10:1 to 11:1 afrs. It's running way too rich sputters a bit, idles for a few seconds then dies. I guess what I'm asking is this... I did the timing belt, everything at TDC. burned my basemap, scaled for 450's still doesnt idle worth a ---- (even when i lean it out).... The Ignition maps on my basemap are they going to be all out of whack since my ignition timing is not set at the distributor...?>

z1guy 07-26-2006 04:18 PM

Re: Timing belt wooooos :(
 
yes, but that wont make that car run that bad.

Walter 07-26-2006 04:21 PM

Re: Timing belt wooooos :(
 

Originally Posted by jagojon3
Firing order...?

sound like that yes..

Zeniceguycrx 07-26-2006 04:22 PM

Re: Timing belt wooooos :(
 
are u shure u hooked the crank sensor back up?
behind the timeing cover behind the crank

b16crex 07-26-2006 08:01 PM

Re: Timing belt wooooos :(
 
where is the crank sensor and what does it look like? i didnt know there was a sensor behind the timing belt cover??

Zeniceguycrx 07-26-2006 10:31 PM

Re: Timing belt wooooos :(
 
look at the timming cover, see if there are any holes or plugs if there is it should be there

z1guy 07-26-2006 10:55 PM

Re: Timing belt wooooos :(
 
what year b16 is it. the usdm b16a3 from the del sols doesnt have the crankshaft fluctuation sensor. the b16a2 from the em1 does. i dont think any of the JDM b16s do.

hotrex 07-27-2006 05:23 AM

Re: Timing belt wooooos :(
 
its a obd0 b16a block.

haha

b16crex 07-27-2006 09:15 AM

Re: Timing belt wooooos :(
 
hotrex knows what up obdo b16 block... i checked the timing belt, it is set correctly. TDC on both crank and cam gears. Now im looking at the basemap as the current problem..

z1guy 07-27-2006 02:48 PM

Re: Timing belt wooooos :(
 
let me guess, blue top DSM 450s.

b16crex 07-28-2006 10:01 AM

Re: Timing belt wooooos :(
 
nope they are black tops


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