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lkailburn 01-23-2007 12:21 AM
Re: thinking about 1BAR
 
Originally Posted by miro_gt
LMAO

1. I haven't seen any of those "VERY knowledgable" people on here ... LMAO

2. What you were trying to achieve with that PCV, I've done / tested / got results / and posted those longer before you probably knew about it.

3. What you don't realize is that your car wont make it boosting for longer time, wont make it boosting in the southern states, and wont make it on the track either.

but based on some of the replies here, I don't have a clue what so ever, so don't listen to me ... I'll see what you post elsewhere anyways, so just don't bother on this one anymore
1. there are ALOT of very knowledgable people here, even in this thread itself.
2. thats great you tested what was done. you didn't post any concrete evidence in that thread you only posted your BS opinions which were proven wrong by myself AND other members
3. as i told you before i've been boosting this setup for OVER a year now. actually a year and a half. and this is daily driven to boot. so i'd say she's doing pretty damn well

and finally.. as other people have said, try to not take it to heart so much. i know even i can get heated up at times but in the end things cool down, its all good. its just a forum

-Luke

samson 01-23-2007 04:37 PM
Re: thinking about 1BAR
 
Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
You know, you don't get this many people asking for links to good info on HT, much less going out and finding them on their own. ;)

That's me, and it goes hand in hand with tiny turbine sides strangling the engine by not letting it expel the thermal energy in the exhaust charge.

Frankly, if you're willing to fork out for racegas and trim your ignition timing, you can get a pretty sizeable chunk of power out of a given turbo by spinning it to the point it blows hot air. This is the difference between streetcar and racecar, making money at the races and saving money by keeping things reliable.

That's not a big suprise, haha. I hope you know Joseph that I side with you on this issue in many of my turbo preference debates. I thought about it and it's very very smart and a simple concept to understand.


As to the Det-Cans, I'm confused how you crimp one end and still are able to "bolt" it through that tube to the block without any resonance dissapating into the atmosphere. I want to try it just for the sake of curiousity but the design to force sound through the tubes seems off when a bolt is placed through the body of it.


JP

lkailburn 01-23-2007 04:40 PM
Re: thinking about 1BAR
 
Originally Posted by samson

That's not a big suprise, haha. I hope you know Joseph that I side with you on this issue in many of my turbo preference debates. I thought about it and it's very very smart and a simple concept to understand.


As to the Det-Cans, I'm confused how you crimp one end and still are able to "bolt" it through that tube to the block without any resonance dissapating into the atmosphere. I want to try it just for the sake of curiousity but the design to force sound through the tubes seems off when a bolt is placed through the body of it.


JP
yah i too don't understand that model. other people crimp a one-inch section and put the bolt through that rather than the uncrimped tube portion. i'd imagine you have a better tighter seal putting the bolt through the crimped one inch section

-Luke

Tom-Guy 01-23-2007 10:44 PM
Re: thinking about 1BAR
 
The whole thing vibrates, just like the block does. The tube portion resonates at frequencies shared by detonation, which amplifies the sound.

SmokeShank 01-23-2007 11:32 PM
Re: thinking about 1BAR
 
i dont agree with DSM injectors are just as good as new ones. i took my injectors (blue top 450s) to Pro Flow and had them flow test them. from the set of 4 (which were all pulled from the same car) there was a 5-9% difference in flow. thats a huge difference. DSMs are cheap so i just threw them away. I now use precision injectors which i had tested and were within 1% of each other.

mike94se 01-23-2007 11:39 PM
Re: thinking about 1BAR
 
Piss off.

Tom-Guy 01-23-2007 11:49 PM
Re: thinking about 1BAR
 
Originally Posted by SmokeShank
i dont agree with DSM injectors are just as good as new ones. i took my injectors (blue top 450s) to Pro Flow and had them flow test them. from the set of 4 (which were all pulled from the same car) there was a 5-9% difference in flow. thats a huge difference. DSMs are cheap so i just threw them away. I now use precision injectors which i had tested and were within 1% of each other.
Let me guess... Pro Flow sells injectors, and/or a cleaning service? ::)

If there was a 5-9% variance in any significant portion of DSM 450cc, it would be noticed on the grassroots tuenarboi level and people like myself would be screaming bloody murder.

Hitchhikkr 01-24-2007 03:52 PM
Re: thinking about 1BAR
 
Originally Posted by SmokeShank
i dont agree with DSM injectors are just as good as new ones. i took my injectors (blue top 450s) to Pro Flow and had them flow test them. from the set of 4 (which were all pulled from the same car) there was a 5-9% difference in flow. thats a huge difference. DSMs are cheap so i just threw them away. I now use precision injectors which i had tested and were within 1% of each other.
Just out of sheer curiosity, do you know at what pressure both types of injectors were tested at, an using what fuel rail???

I would like to know this. It matters. :6

Slo_crx1 01-24-2007 05:40 PM
Re: thinking about 1BAR
 
Originally Posted by SmokeShank
i dont agree with DSM injectors are just as good as new ones. i took my injectors (blue top 450s) to Pro Flow and had them flow test them. from the set of 4 (which were all pulled from the same car) there was a 5-9% difference in flow. thats a huge difference. DSMs are cheap so i just threw them away. I now use precision injectors which i had tested and were within 1% of each other.
Just out of curiosity, post the setup you're running. I've personally run dsm 450's up to the 300hp mark with absolutely no issues at a maximum of 45-47psi of fuel pressure at the rail at wot. For the everyday joe who wants a quicker d-series with not much work performed to the actual motor itself, 5-9% difference won't mean squat, especially at the sub 220whp mark. Look at a well-tuned d-series boost bin, and look at the duty cycle for a set of dsm 450's and tell me if it's really going to matter. And also like JD said...if this was a commonplace occurance with them, do you honestly think so many people would run them...dsm and honda crowd alike?

mike94se 01-24-2007 05:44 PM
Re: thinking about 1BAR
 
Originally Posted by slo_crx1
Just out of curiosity, post the setup you're running.
You can find it on Pollito and the Pussies ::)


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