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HMTguy 01-20-2007 01:13 AM

Re: thinking about 1BAR
 

Originally Posted by miro_gt
I don't know what det cans are, or what those are used for, or how those are used ? .. LMAO, no comment

You proved that you don't know what they are by relating them to fart cans...

Don't try to come back and say it was a joke, because it clearly wasn't.

"LMAO, no comment".. you totally PWNED JD! Wish I could think of kickass comebacks like that.

Noob.

bozo 01-20-2007 06:07 AM

Re: thinking about 1BAR
 
d16z6, STOCK, crome, p28, walbro, 660ccm, K03 at 1.3bars. I made 3 runs to record my LM-1 data and after 3ird run some thing blew. I kicked it in neutral and car was at 1000rpm so i knew the engine is OK. My hose was weak, the engine can handle the boost. But this is a small turbo so it is the diference in the A/R compared to biger turbines. I am going on a t3/t4 and i will tune it on 0.5bar for daily drive and 1bar for racing.

WTF 01-20-2007 06:50 AM

Re: thinking about 1BAR
 
i wish i knew some rednecks with detcans and widebands. then i would be doing more then 7psi D's :6

crome and junkyard injectors > hondata and rc

miro_gt 01-20-2007 06:50 PM

Re: thinking about 1BAR
 

Originally Posted by jagojon3
You proved that you don't know what they are by relating them to fart cans...

Don't try to come back and say it was a joke, because it clearly wasn't.

"LMAO, no comment".. you totally PWNED JD! Wish I could think of kickass comebacks like that.

Noob.

since you guys seem to not understand what I mean, I'm gonna clear up some stuff

det cans are for people with loud exhaust, not me, because with those loud exhausts one can NOT listen to the engine and would miss a knock easily, which would be bad.

I run Apexi WS2 exhaust, which is prety quiet, and when I shut off my stereo, and close up my door windows, I can listed to the engine and make sure it runs fine.

gosh .... who said I'm reffering to fart cans ...

miro_gt 01-20-2007 06:54 PM

Re: thinking about 1BAR
 
well, the car runs on 1 BAR at the moment, but I guess you don't need an update for that

.. and judge my tuning skills from that I've achieved :6

I'm done here

Tom-Guy 01-20-2007 09:52 PM

Re: thinking about 1BAR
 

Originally Posted by miro_gt
det cans are for people with loud exhaust, not me, because with those loud exhausts one can NOT listen to the engine and would miss a knock easily, which would be bad.

I run Apexi WS2 exhaust, which is prety quiet, and when I shut off my stereo, and close up my door windows, I can listed to the engine and make sure it runs fine.

Det-cans have nothing to do with the exhaust you run. You are listening to the resonance of the block, not the exhaust. You can pick up the block starting to sing long before audible detonation sets in... which you'd know if you had the first clue.


Originally Posted by miro_gt
well, the car runs on 1 BAR at the moment, but I guess you don't need an update for that

.. and judge my tuning skills from that I've achieved :6

Yeah, you turned up the boost a whole 2 psi. Impressive.

See you in six months. :S

normality78 01-21-2007 08:50 AM

Re: thinking about 1BAR
 
i think good tuning is as important as good parts

hand backs to HMT pros....

samson 01-21-2007 10:33 AM

Re: thinking about 1BAR
 
You have to figure that Greedy turbo isn't all that big and going to start falling out of effecienty and pumping more hot air into the engine. I really wouldn't go that high with that little of a turbo. I heard someone say it before and I agree with whomever said it, small turbos blow motors due to dumping straight hot air into the motor.


P.S. JD (or anyone) can you link me to a det-can website, read-up, review, etc? I'm interested in this.


JP

Inquisition 01-21-2007 11:37 AM

Re: thinking about 1BAR
 
People really don't understand why pistons/rods fail do they? Piston/rods fail under high cylinder pressure situations(assuming you don't have lubrication problems or engine cooling problems). Normal combustion vs detonation, cylinder pressure skyrockets. So if you figure you are taking a part to a safety limit of about 3 under regular combustion, and you have detonation, you are probably pretty close to the failure zone. You can build these excessive blocks which have much higher factor of safety which means they can tolerate some detonation maybe, but still like J.D said, detonation kills engine due to crazy increases in cylinder pressure.

As for the rest of the bickering, Joey is right on target. Make a det can for $15. There is a writeup by HT and I'm pretty sure on here too. Stay away from detonation and your engine will survive as long as your oil pump doesn't take a ----.

lkailburn 01-21-2007 02:44 PM

Re: thinking about 1BAR
 
det cans:

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1555006

-luke


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